"JJ = Ken Stabler" -- Sam and Al

Submitted by MMBbones on October 12th, 2022 at 12:27 PM

I know there's a lot of hate for Al Borges around here, but he provides some data points that are worth considerating, and maybe incorporating. Sam and Al talk a lot about JJ in a very positive way.

My takeaway from Al is he is convinced the team believes that JJ can take them where they want to go, and that is the comparison with Stabler and the Raiders, where, ostensibly, the Raiders offense always trusted implicitly in their QB. Al is convinced the team trusts JJ to take them to the endzone every time they have the ball, and that trust is critical. 

If you can listen in the background while getting some work done, I recommend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkMujXoismo

MMBbones

October 12th, 2022 at 12:29 PM ^

"considering"  Sorry about making up a word.

Al also gives some good thoughts on Roman Wilson and Ronnie Bell.

Edit: Among "I'll take insightful and yet disturbing qoutes for $1,000, Alex"  Al says: "The problem with receivers is you only play with one ball, not with five balls." So correct and yet so different when heard after several inebriants.  

crg

October 12th, 2022 at 1:03 PM ^

Would disagree here - "commentator" has come to denote a person professionally providing comments about an event (usually a game), whereas anyone can provide comments regardless of vocation.

As such, it has *become* a valid word (and by extension verb) - even my autocorrect recognized it as I am typing this post.

drjaws

October 12th, 2022 at 2:43 PM ^

you snuck this up on me, so lets conversate. Firstly, irregardless of whether it's a real word, the meaning is understood with having to interpretate it. So I don't think a refudiation is in order. One prevantative measure is administrate a "book of words that aren't words" which will set rules on what is and what ain't a real, useable word, but then common vernacular gets lost. This is a major issue, supposably, in the world of hardcore Scrabble players. This topic is undoubtably a hot button issue, so I'll keep it as inflammatory as possible, thusly, avoiding further argument.

I've said all I care to on this subject. i don't want to be a participator in this any further and I've said my peace.

The Oracle 2

October 12th, 2022 at 12:47 PM ^

Stabler was an NFL MVP and Hall of Famer who led his team to a Super Bowl win. He also played before all the rule changes that favored the offense and opened up the passing game. Interceptions were far harder to avoid then. He completed 60% of his passes in an era where that was almost unheard of. He was the opposite of “sucked.”

Amazinblu

October 12th, 2022 at 1:16 PM ^

Va, I remember seeing a sign from, I believe, either an AFC playoff game or Super Bowl.

The sign said - "Speed Kills.  21".   21 was the jersey number of Cliff Branch, who ran "about" a 10.0 for 100m in college - I'm not sure what his 40 time was - but, he was fast.

As for JJ - I think what we are seeing is the power of his mobility and the challenge it poses to a defense.  The key here is - is there a solid #2 in the QB position group.  IMO, Cade would definitely be the #2, if he's healthy and ready to go.   We just don't know the answer to that question.

FWIW, I hope Cade is 100% (or very close to it) - and, next to JJ on the depth chart.

Amazinblu

October 12th, 2022 at 1:39 PM ^

93 - and, my question becomes - if JJ loses his helmet on a play - then, perhaps it would be Warren.  And, nothing against Warren, but his game experience isn't quite the same as Cade's.

Hoping we'll have an opportunity to see a bit more of the depth chart - for score reasons (instead of something else) - as the season continues.

blue in dc

October 12th, 2022 at 2:00 PM ^

Discussion in a thread earlier this week.

- Bowman did not travel because of injury.

- I would hope that most if not all would agree that a healthy Cade would be the ideal #2

- If Cade isn’t healthy, interesting question as to who is #2, Warren vs Bowman - hope we don’t have to find out.

- think you meant that if JJ was out for a play, Orji might br the choice because he is more of a run threat, but for an extended period, we’d much more likely be looking at one of the other qbs (but Orji might get a more prominent wildcat role)

BlueHills

October 12th, 2022 at 12:40 PM ^

It's interesting that he debunked the J. Klatt statement about motions - evidently motion on 28 plays, 14 pass, 14 run.

So it was total BS on Klatt's part, a non-starter.