Is it Harbaugh or Shea?
January 1st, 2020 at 4:09 PM ^
It’s Shea.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:26 PM ^
Both. And Shea has played himself out of the NFL today.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:27 PM ^
Huh!? What about the last 2 years would make you think "this was the game where Shea Patterson played himself out of the NFL"? I hope he did well in school because he can't even open up a restaurant, sell insurance or open a car lot. I'm not sure even the arena league is an option after the disaster which was Shea Patterson's Michigan career.
January 1st, 2020 at 7:06 PM ^
He definitely hasn't been successful downfield as much as he needs to be. There's been other things too; I don't want to be critical of Shea, he's had too deal with a coaching carousel which has undoubtedly limited his ability to excel, and probably sapped his confidence a bit. He had some moments where the '5 star guy' showed up, but not enough to consider him a 5 star guy.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
Double. Let me add, this website's performance mirrors the team's.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
Its both. The excellent quote "when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time" applies here.
Shea is erratic and can't hit WRs downfield. Harbaugh is also erratic with his coaching performances and preparing the team, and whatever talent he had at developing a QB appears to be gone. Michigan will head into year 6 with Harbaugh with no idea if they have something in McCaffrey (35 attempts and a 51% completion percentage in 2 years...not exactly promising!) or if they'll be in the market for yet another transfer QB.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:09 PM ^
She’s has been terrrrrrible
January 1st, 2020 at 4:09 PM ^
It’s Shea.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
Then the problem is Coach since he isn’t making a change.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:54 PM ^
Shea being the problem, whether true or not, doesn’t mean he isn’t the best option. Making a change to a worse option isn’t making things better.
January 1st, 2020 at 5:15 PM ^
We should all be thankful the Shea era is over at Michigan. Thank about all the incomplete deep passes we and the talented receiving core has watched during Shea’s tenure. If not incomplete, how about under thrown. Just look at last years OSU game alone. Too many under thrown passes deep, which kept our talent from making plays after the catch. Memory not that good? How about today? Even McEllory pointed out how bad the deep ball has been all year. He hasn’t been watching our games this year. So someone told him that has been researching our team. Good luck in the future Shea.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:09 PM ^
Short term it’s Shea. Longer term?
January 1st, 2020 at 4:10 PM ^
I'm better than Shea.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:10 PM ^
Shea is just not smart.
And sucks at throwing deep. There’s that too.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^
He rarely steps up in the pocket. It’s frustrating.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:10 PM ^
Both.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^
Seriously?
It's Shea.
And it's really embarrassingly stupid that you had to ask.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^
They’re idiots, they must have forgot Alex Smith was a bust before harbaugh. Josh Johnson at the university of San Diego, luck, Kap, Rudock played better here.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:26 PM ^
Can't tell if you are serious or not but
- Smith was actually at his best in Kansas City under Andy Reid, not Jim Harbaugh.
- Jake Rudock's numbers weren't drastically better than what they were at Iowa and lets face it, he was playing at Iowa. Any of their QB's could go some where else and be better.
And if you wan tot give him credit for those supposed good QB's, then you also have to hammer him for:
- O'Korn sucking since he was good at Houston
- Speight regressing and then transferring
- Shea's in ability to read defenses or complete down the field passes.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:53 PM ^
Gotta hammer him for going through 5 full years here at Michigan without being able to recruit and develop a single damn QB. If McCaffrey turns out to be another dud, that's it for Harbaugh. That's the nail in the coffin.
January 1st, 2020 at 8:31 PM ^
EXACTLY. And some on this board will refuse to acknowledge this. Quit blaming the kid. Our QB guru - like mentioned - had to go out and get a transfer (Shea) because he couldn't recruit or develop one - his supposed strength as a coach. And we have to ask ourselves, are we really confident with the QBs we have returning to lead us to a championship ? 5 years in and more of this crap.
January 1st, 2020 at 8:31 PM ^
EXACTLY. And some on this board will refuse to acknowledge this. Quit blaming the kid. Our QB guru - like mentioned - had to go out and get a transfer (Shea) because he couldn't recruit or develop one - his supposed strength as a coach. And we have to ask ourselves, are we really confident with the QBs we have returning to lead us to a championship ? 5 years in and more of this crap.
January 1st, 2020 at 8:31 PM ^
EXACTLY. And some on this board will refuse to acknowledge this. Quit blaming the kid. Our QB guru - like mentioned - had to go out and get a transfer (Shea) because he couldn't recruit or develop one - his supposed strength as a coach. And we have to ask ourselves, are we really confident with the QBs we have returning to lead us to a championship ? 5 years in and more of this crap.
January 2nd, 2020 at 12:42 AM ^
O’Korn: some kids bust
Speight: was never a D1 prospect, had zero D1 offers apart from Michigan
Shea: well, yeah, ok...
January 1st, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^
We will see when Shea isn’t here
January 1st, 2020 at 4:42 PM ^
We saw that already. It was called the Speight - O'Korn - Peters years.
Said it above, but Michigan is heading into year 6 with out a single QB he's been able to develop starting. Is McCaffrey the guy? Maybe. But he's only 18-35, 51% passes in two seasons of extremely limited time (which should probably tell us something). Doesn't exactly scream QB of the future.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^
Not threadworthy pube
January 1st, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^
Shea has struggled mightily today
January 1st, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^
Harbaugh.....in game decisions are shit. If the hurried the pace, would be a different story today. Slow ass game play makes it easy to defend against us.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
It’s both. Shea just isn’t as good as we were hoping, Harbaugh came back to college and the game had evolved/passed him by. He took too long to try and install an uptempo offense, and it still looks like it stutters too often. Michigan is forever doomed to mediocrity.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
1st nominee for stupidest fucking post of the day.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
What’s dumb about it?
Reasonable people would question the performance of both of them.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
Shea. He’s had a terrible game. I hate to see a senior finish his career like that.
Michigan played this game tough, I’m pleased with that.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
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January 1st, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^
Yeah. Shae can’t hit right now. Guys are there. Shame we can be winning right now
January 1st, 2020 at 4:42 PM ^
I didn’t know Tyrion’s whore was our QB, but it’s both of them...Shea is not a confident and competent QB. That falls on Harbaugh.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^
Let’s once and for all admit Harbaugh is not any sort of QB guru. He’s just not. He’s not special in any way, shape, or form in developing quarterbacks.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:17 PM ^
Agree. Not sure if he thinks he is or not. Seemed a fan and media creation. If he does believe, he needs to wake up.
And Patterson throws a terrible pick
January 1st, 2020 at 4:17 PM ^
Agree. Not sure if he thinks he is or not. Seemed a fan and media creation. If he does believe, he needs to wake up.
And Patterson throws a terrible pick
January 1st, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^
Harbaugh can't develop QBs. I feel bad for DMC, Peters, etc.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
If Shea hit Wr’s in stride like Alabama’s QB, the score would be much different. Kudos to Shea for battling, but he is what he is. Good teams make that margin of error really hurt
January 1st, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
If you look at today, all Shea. Terrible end to a college career. Harbaugh isn’t what we hoped. Losing Partridge will require him to earn some of his money.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
Shea's inability to make any read and his terrible decision making kept this from being a special season
January 1st, 2020 at 4:24 PM ^
Your comments are somehow getting dumber and dumber.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
Everybody knows it's coach that makes him over throw every receiver and tells him not to keep it on run plays.... it's Shea
January 1st, 2020 at 5:51 PM ^
Don't get me wrong, Shea was ass. But if he's consistently missing open WRs downfield by 5+ yards, who do you put the blame on for that continuing to happen? If he can't make the pass, why are they calling the play?
Michigan had a decent ground game in the first half. 10/73 for Charbonnet and 11/47 for Haskins. Charbonnet got THREE carries the entire second half, and Haskins had 7. Michigan bailed on something that was working, and tilted the carries to the back that wasn't having success, and then instead opted to have Shea throw it deep. Is that Shea's fault too?
Good coaches put their players in position to succeed. Michigan continually tries to shove square pegs into round holes.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Pretty sure it's your mom
January 1st, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
False. His mom is not at the game. Trust me.
January 1st, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Shea's issues are mostly about Shea but the fact Harbaugh still hasn't recruited and developed a single productive starting QB going into year 6 is on Jim. TBD on McCaffrey. There's always next year.....
January 1st, 2020 at 4:21 PM ^
DMC has looked pretty bad.