Hypothetical Nightmare for CFP
October 29th, 2017 at 12:14 AM ^
an 8 game playoff would be 9 teams, two of which play a "play-in" game to play in the quarters. Pretty sure that option wasn't discussed.
October 28th, 2017 at 10:07 PM ^
since once seven teams lose, it's over.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:15 PM ^
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October 29th, 2017 at 12:18 AM ^
more likely than this scenario. It is incredibly unlikely all these teams win out. Not worth talking about.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:15 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 9:17 PM ^
My nightmare: running out of beer and whiskey
October 28th, 2017 at 10:30 PM ^
21st amendment blood orange IPA. After that it is all downhill ( since an earthquake did not completely bury the horseshoe today during the game )
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October 28th, 2017 at 10:06 PM ^
Ideally, you are right. You are only seeking to determine the "best team". But a playoff is just an arbitrary format to allow a single winner to claim that.
In an ideal world where it really was purely about determining the best team in America, if there was only 1 (or 2, or 3) teams with a clear legitimate claim at #1, they would exclude all others. If there is only one team who is clearly the best by the end of the first week of December, you'd declare that team National Champion there and then (kind of like the old poll system), They would only play a playoff when there is any doubt.
(At this point in 2017, most would say that "best" is clearly Alabama, and everyone else lags behind- it's really more a question about what other three teams 'deserve have any chance of beating them).
Howver, TV money means this would never happen. So in reality we are stuck at an arbitrary number of teams of the "top" number (whether that's 4, 6, 8, 12 or 16) where in many years worthy teams will be excluded, and/or unworthy teams are included.
October 29th, 2017 at 12:25 AM ^
If they were looking for the best 1, there wouldn't be a playoff and we'd crown the number 1 seed as the champ. Why play the games if you're not intending to give the 2nd-4th best teams a chance? But it's a playoff amongst the 4 best teams.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:22 PM ^
Pecking order is probably something like:
Undefeated SEC champion
Undefeated Miami
One loss Oklahoma
One loss Big Ten champion or undefeated Wisconsin
One loss ACC Champion
Notre Dame
One loss SEC champion
One loss Big 12 champion that is not Oklahoma
One loss PAC-12 champion
One loss UGA/Alabama SECCG lose
October 28th, 2017 at 10:04 PM ^
Have you seen Miami play? They are not going undefeated or even squeaking by with 1 loss.
October 28th, 2017 at 10:10 PM ^
That's not a prediction, that's a hypothetical if they were to win out. If I were to predict it would be Alabama, Clemson, OSU, and Oklahoma.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:23 PM ^
Bama would be a tossup.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:30 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 9:55 PM ^
If they win out they’re in. You can take that to the bank. Doesn’t matter what else happens around the CFB world.
October 28th, 2017 at 10:04 PM ^
if they get in over Oklahoma though if Oklahoma ends with 1 loss.
October 28th, 2017 at 11:07 PM ^
Not inconceivable for the following:
1) Winner of UGa/Bama conference title game
2) Oklahoma
3) OSU
4) Clemson
ND is on the outside looking in, as is PSU and TCU. If the loser of the SEC title game loses a very close game by seven or less (and assuming they are undefeated in regular season) they can still make it in as a possible 3-4 seed.
October 29th, 2017 at 1:11 AM ^
over a one-loss Oklahoma (chance they both get in, of course). I highly doubt OU is winning out though. They've looked bad since that game and still have Bedlem, TCU and B12 championship game. They're losing one of those.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:57 PM ^
The CFP group wants OSU in bad. They pull a huge fan base for viewing on tv and in person. There is a reason they were choosen for the 1st playoff over TCU when it was said to be a "toss up". Any time there is a chance they will let OSU in, OSU will get in, unfortunately.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:34 PM ^
schedules...
Ohio State would have beaten maybe only two ranked teams, Penn State and Wisconsin. Penn State should finish as a Top 10, Wisconsin might be on the fringe.
Oklahoma would have beaten Ohio State, Oklahoma State, and TCU, which could be 3 Top 15 wins.
Washington would likely have a ranked win over Wazzu and perhaps USC, who both would be low Top 25.
Clemson would have ranked wins over Auburn, Virginia Tech, NC State, and Miami, along with being the defending champs if that means anything.
I really think a lot would hinge on the quality of the SEC title game. If it were to be a blowout in a really dominating fashion, I think the loser is left out. It really gets interesting if that game comes down to the wire, late field kind of thing.
For now, I would lean Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Clemson.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:24 PM ^
what if 1 loss PSU wins out
what if 1 loss TCU wins out
October 28th, 2017 at 9:29 PM ^
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Promote Nussmeier!
October 28th, 2017 at 9:57 PM ^
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October 29th, 2017 at 1:15 AM ^
if OU wins out. And if PSU wins out, but doesn't win the division, PSU won't be in the top 4. Didn't play anyone in non-conf. Didn't win conference. You can't have both of those and still get in.
October 28th, 2017 at 9:30 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 10:40 PM ^
OSU could win out and still easily be left out of the CFP.
They will be left out for a 1 loss Big 12 champion, because of OU.
They will be left out for a 1 loss Notre Dame, there is pent up demand to put ND in.
They will be left out for the SEC champion, because SEC.
And finally, they will be left out for a 1 loss Clemson because of what happened last year in the CFP.
They are very vulnerable in a way that Penn State would not have been if they had won out.
October 28th, 2017 at 11:05 PM ^
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October 28th, 2017 at 11:23 PM ^
I'm rooting for whatever you least want you coward of a man. Has your single testicle descended yet?
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October 28th, 2017 at 9:33 PM ^
| ACC | … | Miami Fla | … | 7 | … | 0 |
| ACC | … | Clemson | … | 6 | … | 1 |
| ACC | … | V Tech | … | 6 | … | 1 |
| B1G | … | PSU | … | 7 | … | 1 |
| B1G | … | Ohio St | … | 7 | … | 1 |
| B1G | … | Wisc | … | 8 | … | 0 |
| Big 12 | … | TCU | … | 7 | … | 1 |
| Big 12 | … | Ok State | … | 7 | … | 1 |
| Big 12 | … | OU | … | 6 | … | 1 |
| Indy | … | ND | … | 7 | … | 1 |
| Pac 12 | … | Washington | … | 7 | … | 1 |
| Pac 12 | … | Wash St | … | 7 | … | 1 |
| SEC | … | Georgia | … | 8 | … | 0 |
| SEC | … | Alabama | … | 8 | … | 0 |
October 28th, 2017 at 9:35 PM ^
unless so many lose a 2-loss team wins 2 or more conferences
ND still has Miami and Stanford
Washington/Washington State play each others plus each play Stanford
remember top 2 in Big 12 play for their title
so at most 5 zero or 1 loss champs plus ND
anyone undefeated from this list will get in