Houston Chronicle reporting both Texas and Oklahoma have reached out to SEC about joining conference
This story just broke a few minutes ago and the only source is currently paywalled but Houston Chronicle football reporter Brent Zwerneman just tweeted out that both Texas & Oklahoma are looking to join the SEC.
Now THAT would be a super-conference. Whoa.
Houston Chronicle exclusive: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to SEC about joining conference https://t.co/tw2Qm3yeoj via @houstonchron
— Brent Zwerneman (@BrentZwerneman) July 21, 2021
Certainly much harder for Texas & Oklahoma to win a national title, especially in a West Conference SEC division.
The Big-12 would need to cough up some really big $$$ for these two schools to remain. That remains to be seen but wouldn't rule it out.
Not really, re: much harder to win in SEC West... Texas and OU would change the boundaries of the SEC conferences...16 teams in new SEC means
New East (8): South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, UK, Vandy, Auburn, Alabama
New West (8): Ole Miss, Miss St, LSU, Ta&m, Arkansas, Mizzou, Texas, OU
New East gets to rekindle old rivalries like 'Bama - Tennessee, and you get Auburn - Florida every year. New West gets all the old SWC rivalries back, Mizzou & Arkansas get a couple closer road trips, and LSU would love more access into Texas market / recruiting grounds. About the only thing you lose is annual LSU - Bama game.
and LSU would love more access into Texas market / recruiting grounds.
Hopefully it would do the opposite. Maybe UT can sell being a member of the SEC to prevent their in-state recruits from going to LSU or, more importantly, OSU. And after the heavy-handed steps that Orgeron took to lock teams out of Louisiana, the last thing I want is for him to be able to move into another fertile recruiting state.
I don't know that would realign conferences. Remember Mizzou is in the SEC East. My guess is they would add one of school to each division, Maybe Texas west and OU East.
Not for selfish reasons, I think OU would be a better fit in the B1G. The western conference powerhouse to OSU in the East.
Maybe they split into 4 divisions and then do an expanded SEC football championship?
Group 1 - Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas A&M
Group 2 - Kentucky, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St
Group 3 - LSU, Arkansas, Alabama, Vanderbilt
Group 4 - Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee
-or redo the West/East-
West: Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss
East: South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Alabama
edit: looks like Twitter user @AllanBell247 beat me to it and made better choices on G2/G3
The old WAC did this for hoops 25 or so years ago. Didn't really take.
Allan Bell's 2nd group is too weak. I think you'd need at least 1 or 2 legit football powers in each SEC group.
Who is the legit power in Bell's Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Mississippi State?
MGrowOld,
You should be ashamed! You've been on this board for over 10 years. You should know that if a story was broken more than seconds ago, it has already been posted here!! And you should have the sense to have marked it as OT!
I'd rather the mods deleted mine and kept this one TBH. I dunno how to embed.
Came here to make the same comment. Shame on OP. He knows better.
Lets add Kansas and Baylor . This will expand the B1G and help the conference in regards to Basketball .
I think that the last thing the B1G needs is to add one team with a recent horrific sexual assault scandal (Baylor) and one that probably hired a known serial sexual harasser (Kansas).
Yeah, because the B1G has the moral high grounds in relation to sex assault scandals .
My point was that, given its recent history with these types of scandals, the B1G doesn't need to add even more schools with similar problems. I should've been clearer on this.
yea you completely missed his point
Baylor can go fuck itself.
If one AD post SMU deserved the death penalty, it's Baylor.
I don't think Baylor is a good cultural fit.
I know I’m just a moralizing old man but I’d rather not add Baylor to any conference.
The $$ is too much to pass up. Okla & Texas might beware they will face stiffer competition in the SEC and could be less likely to make the playoffs, unless-of course, we get the 8 or 12 team playoff system. This could backfire on these two schools initially.
It's just too bad that good teams like this don't go and join the ACC to give Dabo and Clemson a little bit of competition.
Dabo has promised to quit if the sacred membership list of the ACC is ever disturbed.
Sounds like a win-win to me.
Ugh, fuck this. College football sucks now (something I NEVER thought I would say EVER in my life) and this would make it even more insufferable.
Do our mods have the ability to merge threads together? It seems odd that we've got two active threads discussing this.
(Are we ever going to have a serious revamp of this message board?)
I don’t like your guys’ team, but if Tennessee and Kentucky dipped out for the Big Ten because of this then I think I would thoroughly enjoy watching you guys spank them in football and basketball.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Big Ten tries to poach Missouri and adds Kansas/K-State and Iowa St
Fits the footprint
I'd like to see the B1G pull in Cincinnati. At least this would make another P5 team in Ohio that OSU would have to recruit against.
Cincinnati is not in the AAU (if that still matters. Iowa State is)
Notre Dame would be a good addition, Iowa State is good now, but historically aren't, so I don't know how much value they add.
If Delaney were around, he'd reach out to Texas or OU. Both schools I think would be a better fit and just as financially rewarding as moving to the SEC.
Wow. Missouri and K-State. Real game-changers. Why would the league want to share revenue with two more also-rans that aren't national brands?
Kansas State is one of two Power-5 schools (Va Tech the other) who as a university have never won a team national championship in any sport
SEC might as well take Clemson and Ohio State and play competitive football all year at the highest level. I am ok with Michigan being in a second tier conference if it means the conference champion is not predetermined every year. Bring in ISU to replace the buckeyes and let's get it on. Whatever is left of the big 12 joins the Pac 12 and becomes a third tier league. Fuck it we might as well add UCF and Memphis to the big10 also.
What makes me sad is that for most of my life I didn't stress about the inevitable consolidation into super-conferences because I never thought Michigan would be one of the teams on the outside looking in.
Well you probably didn’t expect the program to fall into the abyss with back to back to back disappointing hires either.
Either way, Michigan would be invited to any potential super conference. Even if the program was pulling 1-11 seasons, there are a lot of eyes watching those 1-11 seasons.
Most of /r/CFB tunes into Michigan games just to be up to date on the Michigan memes
What can we do to get Clemson and Ohio State to follow them?
If we’re going to shamelessly desecrate the corpse of college football, might as well go full necrophilia with it.
/ it’s a metaphor, people
This is all untenable - college football is just a whole different beast from every other college sport that these schools and ADs can't continue to lump football (and, I guess to a lesser extent, basketball) into the same decision making process that they do for say, men's rowing. Let's call it what it is - college football cannot maintain as a college sport without blowing up everything else in it's wake.
I agree with the people above - I hate the sport now. Everything that made it good is no longer present. It's time for college football just to officially lean into what it is - a professional sports league - and get out of this charade of being called a college sport.
I think you have a better chance of Clemson joining the Big 10 then you do of Ohio State joining the SEC.
A lot of poo pooing just because the SEC is clearly superior in the world of football. You'd think Michigan fans would be accepting of playing second fiddle .
3rd fiddle*
*in the Big Ten East
Co-3rd fiddle*
*well, that one year at least
And so it begins...... many predicted this years ago..4 16 team mega conference each with 2 8 team divisions who meet for the title...that will take up 8 of the 12 football playoff berths and then 4 remaining at large...get ready what 2 teams next join the B10?
Oklahoma and Texas leaving the SEC would be a death sentence for the Big 12. I also don't see the SEC allowing them in from a competitive standpoint
It's kinda bewildering to me that everyone who follows college sports closely knew that the Big 12/Pac 12 were doomed unless one devoured the other, and instead they've just sat and waited until the SEC took the only Boardwalk/Park Place available. Now the Big 12 is going to be mortally wounded but Pac 12 is still stuck in the same slow death cycle they've been in for over a decade now.
I think a resurgent Oregon and USC could reverse that quickly.
Even if those two programs are operating at peak efficiency, it doesn't change that there's not enough people in the country who care about watching Pac 12 football for them to close the revenue gap unless they make a drastic move.
And instead of making drastic moves, they've seemingly sat on their hands since the last time Texas turned them down.
Idea out of left field: just merge the B1G and the PAC and only play within this league. Diversifies the conference and makes it viewable all day and draws interest from all over the country. I don’t see another way of competing with the SEC.
Turned out Larry Scott was a poor choice to guide the Pac 12. Guess that WTA experience didn't exactly transfer.
I've read over the past few years—almost certainly on MGoBlog too—that changes in the college football landscape will lead to 3-4 super conferences.
OU, sure. Texas, wtf?
I guess I don't see the need to add a fallen from glory, hasn't won in decades program when the SEC already has UT, Arkansas and Ole Miss.
Well, if that happens, the Big XII is done, I would think, as those are the only two teams in that conference that large enough groups of people actually care about really. I would have to think that moves the Pac-12 a step or two closer to the edge too because it isn't football-ish, if you will, enough as it is for the taste of a national audience.