Harrison Ingram, 6’7” SF soph Stanford Star enters portal
Harrison Ingram, 6’7” SF sophomore Stanford Star enters portal.
McDonald’s All American from Texas.
Ingram was Pac-12 Freshman of the Year and averaged 10.5 points, 6.2 rebounds, 3.4 assists, and 0.8 steals per game during his two years on The Farm. He also shot 39.8% from the field, 31.6% from 3-point range, and 62.9% from the foul line. His field goal percentage improved from 38.8% as a freshman to 40.8% as a sophomore while his 3-point percentage improved from 31.3% to 31.9%. His foul shooting however dipped from 66.3% as a freshman to 59.8% as a sophomore.
Michigan in it for Caleb Love.
An on3 reporter Gerry Hamilton (long time national reporter) said Love to Michigan.
Sam Webb said we have made contact with Jaden Bradley too. Said he'd elaborate more on Wednesday.
Michigan finished second for Ingram.
Michigan had Bradley at the top of the board. Michigan took the first to decide (Dug) and many insiders have mentioned that Howard had the override in making that call over the assistants.
Michigan was close with a number of guys who were are in the portal.
It sounds like Dickinson could come back (doubtful, but possible), but Yohan Traore and Efton Reid are both in the portal if Michigan wants a big.
You mentioned Bradley. Obviously this is about Ingram.
Burnett was one of those guys.
...you could make a starting 5 of former 5* kids who Michigan finished 2nd or 3rd for, and are now in the portal.
The scuttlebutt I saw last night was Love to MO unless Michigan comes with a bigger bag. In other words, you can show me the Love if you show Love the money.
Juwan can't spell. He can't walk and chew gum at the same time. He'll always be an assistant. How did Jett not fly planes over Kent County airport before the Final Four, while trying to guard Hunter from the portal? To be continued...
It’s only 6 in the morning but I’m reasonably sure the worst post of the day has just been made.
Try to lay off the sauce, at least until later in the day.
PSA: Careful reading of BoCanHam15's post and his prior comments on UM basketball suggests he's making fun of the Howard haters. I could be missing something.
Sarcasm and irony are hard lines to draw. When you do it right, everyone knows its sarcasm without any attribution as such needed. When you do it wrong, you get negged into oblivion because your post is too stoopid to be figured out as anything but stoopid.
And if you need to attribute it to sarcasm so people understand, you've done it wrong.
Well if,"you" have to result in actually thinking someone is too stupid to spell it correctly all while trying to insult one, then I'll pray for you. I don't and will never trash any Coach, player, or any alum, nor fan of Michigan. Unless they think they're so smart that they have room to try and insult,"me!" I love the job coach, Juwan Howard is doing, and also how well he is raising two young men in todays world. I have nothing but praise for him and I love my University.
GO BLUE
I usually chuckle at the grammar police for overdoing it. But can we talk about commas for a minute?
Lol. Sure. I should've put the trash out last night.
Touché
The portal's like 3-on-3 on outdoor courts.
The winning 3 keep the court—and their team together—while everyone else is mix-&-match.
I keep saying it, but I would never use all of my scholarships on HS kids.
I'd never want the #1 recruiting class. That means nothing to me.
I'd only recruit developmental guys who are program stabilizers. Jordan Morgan, Eli Brooks, Isaiah Livers, Spike Albrecht, etc. - my team would be these developmental guys and top end transfers that I've seen get a year or two of college ball.
For me, that is the formula.
You are spot on.
In a sport where you only need maybe 8 players, it is silly not to have some empty scholarship spots in your back pocket at all times.
But isn't that the track Juwan took the last few years? He grabbed a few of the one and done's and filled out the roster with developmentals and transfers. The one and done's left after one, and the dev guys either dev'd and left early, or haven't dev'd at all. And right now we're stuck with the undev'd guys that shouldn't be on the court.
Your preferred method just hasn't worked out for Michigan. Hopefully, something starts working soon...
you guys realize that with NIL, scholarship limits are out the window -- you can just pay the player with NIL..
Huh? No. Michigan hasn't done that at all.
Who is the best transfer Michigan has gotten under Howard? Chaundee Brown? Llewellyn?
What are you talking about?
Michigan has never built a core of recruited development types, and then got top end transfers.
I swear people will just make stuff up just to have a differing opinion.
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You can't say my preferred methodology hasn't worked out for Michigan when it hasn't even been tried at Michigan.
Before this season with Kante and Washington, every full Michigan recruiting class under Howard has featured Top 50 players. 2021 FEATURED FOUR OF THEM...AND NOT A SINGLE ONE IS STILL ON THE TEAM!
Michigan hasn't tried this at all.
Without analyzing it, I'd say that formula worked for Villanova when they won the NCAA tournament a few years ago. They had mostly 3-4 year guys and I don't recall if anyone on the championship team held much NBA interest, nor did they have a top recruiting class in the prior years.
Jalen Brunson, Bridges, and Devincenzo have all stuck in the NBA.
In today's college basketball it seems pretty likely that Villanova team would not have existed. Brunson and Bridges would've gone pro a year earlier (they both had similar stats as their final years but with lower usage). They might've lost one of their depth pieces to the portal. Plus, starter and future 1st round pick Omari Spellman who was a 5* but sat out his first year due to academic ineligibility probably would've opted to go to OTE or the G League instead.
It's only been 5 years, but the landscape has changed dramatically.
Free-agent college basketball is getting wild.
Ingram didn't want to play with Jett Howard, who was coming in a year after him, Negative recruiting played a part, but also a lack of trust in Juwan. It could be an interesting portal recruitment.
You may be correct but what factually informs you here? A lack of trust in Juwan-really??? One would actually have to know this young man to make such a statement.
"Juwan Howard and staff have done a phenomenal job of making Ingram a top priority to the extent of perhaps being in pole position. The holdup? The same source tells me Harrison may have questions about his role in the offense come 2022 when Jett Howard comes aboard if he’s not a one and done.
Never could I have imagined that Jett Howard, a top 50 prospect that is likely best suited playing off-ball, would potentially be a roadblock for a 2021 5-star that is an elite shot creator. Such is life in recruiting. "
That's from a Matt D article on this site. https://mgoblog.com/content/hoops-recruiting-has-latest-dallas
Sam Webb said the same thing later in a paywalled article. Ingram himself said he would choose the school whose coaching staff he trusted the most among his finalists.
Well Jett is gone, so come on down Harrison.
I think Ingram is probably going to UNC. Without having the shooters and with a guard like Dug, i think Howard needs to get out a run more. Although there is talk Hunter could return, he slows the team down and you need SHOOTERS around him.
Agree 100%. If you're going to feature Hunter, that's fine...but you need a PG and 2-3 sharpshooters.
If you want to run, you need a Diabate at C...not Dickinson.
I believe I saw a stat that Michigan was like 160 in pace this year (likely due to McDaniel), but the year before they were like 250 or something REALLY low.
I didn't look that up, so don't quote me, but anyone with eye balls can tell you that Michigan isn't the fastest team up and down the floor.
Tarris Reed is not running the floor—he’d slow down an uptempo more than Hunter,
Reed’s game is in the half court—it’s bully ball at this point, since he hasn’t shown a real ability to shoot. He’s good for rebounding and put backs and the occasional short hook. I hope he grows a post game, but that’s not something to count on.
People give Hunter all kinds of shot for his lack of speed, but he’s quicker and more post skilled than 99.9% of college 4 and 5s. It’s be a blessing to have him return.
If Love comes here, he’s a shot taker and scorer, not a shooter. He is still one of the best available portal talents, despite those weaknesses. He’s streaky. But I’ll take Hunter and Love, any day, with who is out there.
I am only pointing out his flaws because I know how much blame a big portion of the fan base will give him when he has a bad game and we lose a close one. Like Dug said—fans have gone from loving him to hating him in a day, and that’s ridiculous.
At this point it should be thread worthy when a player is not in the portal.
Definitely some good options in the portal. The problem is that Juwan tied up way too many scholarships in scrubs who can’t play, but don’t seem inclined to move on.
Juwan needs to get some more positive attrition going. Beilein is as classy a coach as there was but even he understood the harsh realities of the game.
Scholarships really don't matter anymore with NIL - same with football, guys will just get paid to stick on campus if they aren't officially "on scholarship", and that includes whatever scrubs you think are on this team.
Right now the roster of actual "scholarship" players based on last year's roster + two incoming recruits + one transfer - transfers/NBA outs is 8 + 2 + 1 - 3 = 8 guys. If Baker comes back that's 9 but doesn't sound great on that front. And Jace being on scholarship probably shouldn't count in that total since he's Juwan's kid and Howard can just pay out of pocket for him but whatever.
Michigan could conceivably take 4 more transfers in without being worried about hitting the scholarship limit as it were. So no, I'm not particularly worried about them running out of offers to guys in the portal.
And if anything Howard did the "right" then when it came to guys who left - he told them he needed to know soon what there plan was and he wasn't going to wait to start trying to get new guys in. "Shit or get off the pot" is pretty matter-of-fact a couple of weeks after the season ended.
I'm thinking of them more as soft limits. Football is not going to bring in 105 "scholarship" players using NIL deals. Last year they had 88 "scholarship" players. I think the number will continue to be around 90.
For basketball it's going to be similar because only 9 guys are going to play, there's no point in bringing in 20 "scholarship" guys on NIL deals. Could do 14-15 maybe.
Edit: also if you include baker and incoming recruits they are at 12 scholarships. Seems like they should be targeting about 3 guys right now.
Surely you can point out a team that is doing this then?
Ingram is a talented player, but not a particularly good shooter.
Love is a talented player, not necessarily a great shooter. Who is ticket for Mizzou.
Burnett is a talented player, hasn't shown he's a particularly good shooter.
Hmm. I think I'm seeing a trend here.
Let's get a sniper in the mix here.
I said it in a different thread, but there are so many former Michigan targets that we barely missed on that if Juwan can't put a decent team together, then I he's a dead man walking
Michigan is the Stanford of the Midwest! Come on down.
'73 - perhaps it's the other way around - and, Stanford resembles Harvard as being the "Michigan of the West."
This "connection" between Stanford and Michigan is interesting.
Go Blue!
"Stanford is a wonderful place and my experience here has been amazing. The relationships that I have developed will be lifelong, and I will always remember my time here,"
So why are you leaving?
Probably because they haven’t finished with a winning record (overall or conference play) in his 2 seasons there