Elmer

April 22nd, 2015 at 9:21 AM ^

I quit playing baseball in high school because it was too boring for me. I got to bat only 3-4 times a game and in centerfield I'm guessing 4 or 5 balls came my way. Batting pratice was glacially slow.

In basketball there was constant action.  Football practice could be boring at times, but the games were great.   

Frankie J

April 21st, 2015 at 11:16 PM ^

Does anyone happen to have an online stream of this episode? I'm really interested in watching it.

samdrussBLUE

April 21st, 2015 at 11:19 PM ^

I'm telling you the right way to do it. If you wanna look at me with that look, than just go fucking somewhere else- unfortunately, looked like Speight was on the wrong end of that dialogue (hard to tell for sure since they blurred out parts of the screen)



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michfanisbacka…

April 21st, 2015 at 11:21 PM ^

Harbaugh is the fucking man. He's just what this team has needed for years. I remember when I got banned in 2011 by some pansy after the loss to sparty because I called out the team for being weak. This is football gentlemen not fucking crochet. Harbaugh gets it, and football really is the last bastion of hope for toughness in America.

EGD

April 21st, 2015 at 11:53 PM ^

A good buddy of mine was about the shittiest athlete you can imagine when we were in high school. Dude couldn't throw a spiral, couldn't even dribble a basketball. Except now he's a firefighter and paramedic, and routinely has to pull people out of wrecked cars or administer emergency treatment to people having heart attacks or ODing on stuff, often in some of the worst conditions imaginable. But yeah, he's obviously not much of a tough guy because he never played football.

HenneGivenSunday

April 22nd, 2015 at 12:03 AM ^

I was waiting for this. I don't agree or disagree with your point ("manliness" is probably becoming more difficult to define as time goes along), but I was waiting for someone to bring up some other occupation or situation that compares. I'm not sure Coach Harbaugh would disagree with your point. He was asked a question, he answered it to the best of his ability in the moment. Just because he feels so strongly about football doesn't mean he feels like firefighters, soldiers, police officers, etc. are "weak".



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justingoblue

April 22nd, 2015 at 1:48 AM ^

His job pays him to eat, sleep, breathe and talk about football. I have zero doubt Harbaugh respects the "manliness" surrounding hockey or surgery or the USMC or firefighters or anything else, but his business is football and he's going to concentrate on and promote it.

If he was Red's replacement or President Schlissel or Gen. Mattis or did FDNY recruiting he'd say the same thing about any of those respective jobs, and there's not anything wrong with that.

EGD

April 22nd, 2015 at 9:32 AM ^

I actually haven't seen the program yet; I DVR'd it and will get to it this week. But when I posted that remark, I didn't realize the "football is the last bastion for toughness" thing had come from Harbaugh. Obviously that changes the perspective and context of the remark significantly. I should have known better, given the thread topic, but it's too late to change or delete my post now.

Wendyk5

April 22nd, 2015 at 8:22 AM ^

He's not as unlikable as I feared. And I wouldn't characterize his competitiveness as borderline pathological, either, which is how this segment was promoted. He's a quirky character who hates losing and that was never taught out of him. He was encouraged to be that way, and had an outlet in his own athletic ability. Also, he says what he thinks. My father is like that, so I'm used to it and actually find it preferable to candy-coating. You know exactly where you stand at all times. 

Real Tackles Wear 77

April 21st, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^

I crack up at all the folks who are so sure that Harbaugh will be back in the NFL by next Tuesday, Andrea Kremer included. All those who are so sure this is just a pit stop are the same ones that said he never was coming to UM in the first place. Whatever helps the buckeye and Sparty fans sleep at night...

buckeyejonross

April 21st, 2015 at 11:56 PM ^

Like his ego wouldn't let him leave the NFL a semi-failure while his brother has a Super Bowl ring?
For the record, I agree with you Harbaugh is at UM long term. But the other side of the coin is so easy to see, it's not surprising non-biased general media types see it that way.



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buckeyejonross

April 22nd, 2015 at 12:29 AM ^

Apparently no one here can read. I don't think he is a failure at all. He is one of the best football coaches in any league. But, my point was I can definitely see how general sports media people like Andrea Kramer can see a guy losing a Super Bowl to his brother, getting fired after a miserable year and ditching the NFL for college is a semi-failure. Most NFL people don't see people leaving the shield to go back to college as a "success."

I mean, that's why general media types are idiots, they have to appeal to the masses, and the masses are stupid. But people here are up in arms as to why media types are saying he's going back to the NFL. You guys are letting these people worry you, I'm pointing out they're kinda dumb, and that their general opinion means nothing.

CoachBP6

April 22nd, 2015 at 12:51 AM ^

Your wording is less than stellar. No one can view his time at any one of his jobs as a failure. Harbaugh is one of the best overall coaches in the sport. It just so happens that Harbaugh's style is much better suited for the college game where hs intensity and player development is welcomed. Many nfl players think there is nothing more for them to learn, which I'm sure pisses Harbaugh off. I find it crazy that Michigan and Harbaugh have been the most talked about program / coach by far this offseason, the guy is in the press every other day it seems. I am excited for the rivalries once again. Harbaugh beat a stacked USC team with very lowly regarded players, can't wait to see wha he does here.

buckeyejonross

April 22nd, 2015 at 12:31 AM ^

Right. Left the NFL. Which is my point. General media people see leaivng the NFL for college as a failure. Obviously you and I don't feel that way, but we aren't PTI/Around The Horn/HBO/ESPN idiots who think Harbaugh is going to bail on Michigan in three years.

clarkiefromcanada

April 22nd, 2015 at 1:03 AM ^

With the translation of success from college to the pros that both Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly have had and the ongoing success of Nick Saban at Alabama I think there has been some bridging of the divide between college and the NFL. Obviously, HBO has an axe to grind here as an NFL "partner" (albeit a minor one).

I haven't seen so much coverage on Harbaugh going back to the NFL as much as a view that he gave AA the "hometown discount" and sheer incredulousness from shield shilling analysts that thats is such an incredible move. 

buckeyejonross

April 22nd, 2015 at 1:25 AM ^

Media people also killed Carroll and the hire when he went from the NFL to USC, and despite the massive amounts of success he had at USC, general media types then were quick to point out his '90s NFL failures when Seattle hired him back from USC.

General media people also killed Saban when he left Miami for perhaps the most prestigious college job in the country. It's what happens. NFL media is dumb and wrong a lot.

I think NFL people by and large think anyone who can't hack it in the NFL are failures and anyone who leave the NFL for college are failures. Regardless of the circumstances or successes.

Also, I can't think of anyone who was as successful in the NFL as Harbaugh up and leaving for college. Usually they underwhelm in the pros before they leave for the NCAA.

justingoblue

April 22nd, 2015 at 1:57 AM ^

Leaving the whole Harbaugh/NFL thing out of this reply, do you think Alabama is the most prestigious job in college? I might be biased or in the minority, but I think I'd give that to USC without much competition, probably followed by ND.

I don't think "best" and "prestigious" are the same, although Southern Cal has a claim on best as well. I don't think ND is close to the top of "best jobs" in 2015.

justingoblue

April 22nd, 2015 at 8:39 PM ^

I see Texas and USC as fairly equal depending on the coach. Carrol was perfect for USC, Brown was perfect for Texas once upon a time. There's a big drop to the rest of the flagships in talent rich states, then the Oklahoma, Michigan, ND ties that have everything except a backyard they can base a program on. After that everything seems more fluid because coaches will leave for better jobs.

For prestige I just don't think Alabama has the glamour factor. FWIW I don't think Michigan does either, and that's a good thing in my opinion.

UofM626

April 22nd, 2015 at 3:12 AM ^

I live here in So Cal and I consider many other college jobs better then that of USC. Before Carroll they were a complete dumpster fire. It's just a matter of time before it happens again. Probably quicker then last time because UCLA, Arizona, ASU, and Oregon are much better then before and are taking kids from Cali in bunch loads these days. I consider Michigan, Alabama, ND, Penn St., Just to name a few that are just as prestigious or better Imo. Whenever USC struggles they can never sell out the Coliseum as it's always empty. And if you look now they put those retired numbers in the end zone to take away a ton of seats because they can't sell them and the stadium was always looking empty. I would rather coach at Ole Miss, Tenn, FSU, Texas, OSU, Oklahoma, UCLA, Florida, LSU, Oregon before I would at USC! And shit I live here