November 13th, 2023 at 3:37 PM ^
In case you don't want to click espn link, here is the full quote:
"I'm going to talk on Friday," Harbaugh said. "I'm just looking forward to that opportunity -- due process. I'm not looking for special treatment, not looking for a popularity contest, just looking for the merit of what the case is."
November 13th, 2023 at 5:16 PM ^
Good quote and good for Coach Harbaugh.
I hope that the Michigan haters realize the significance of this -- Harbaugh wants to testify under oath that he had no knowledge of any illegal scheme. No one would perjure themself for this. He didn't know.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:10 PM ^
Given the law firm that’s been hired, I doubt they’d say, go ahead, unless it was a good move.
November 13th, 2023 at 5:48 PM ^
I hope he wears the gear along with all others with him, Michigan vs Everybody. Will the players be allowed in if their schedule allows.
November 13th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
My guess is he will wear cleats and receiver gloves.
November 13th, 2023 at 11:25 PM ^
Just like his wedding night.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:37 PM ^
FUCK ESPN
except Des
November 13th, 2023 at 3:53 PM ^
I installed the BlockSite browser extension on my desktop (limited version is free https://blocksite.co/) just because typing 'espn' into the browser bar has been a habit for so many years.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:38 PM ^
Here's a clickable, non-ESPN link:
https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2023/11/jim-harbaugh-seeks-due-process-in-friday-court-hearing-vs-big-ten.html
November 13th, 2023 at 3:44 PM ^
Good job. +1.
Why do people still continue to post ESPN links? Get with the boycott. Why reward their poor reporting by making it easy for them to get clicks? Find a better article to link like you did.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^
Here is another article, mainly just quotes from his interview. It's gold Jimmy. It's gold.
“I’m the iron wall that viruses bash against and shatter. Something’s going on there but just work it out of the system. Do some more pushups, eat an apple.”
November 13th, 2023 at 5:42 PM ^
"Eat an apple.."
Classic..
He's a different dude.
November 14th, 2023 at 8:41 AM ^
He's promoting Michigan apples. The Michigan Apple Committee would be proud (most of them being MSU fans - agriculture school and all.......but this proves Harbs point of being Americas Team. We will win you over eventually. He impressed the chicken farmers and apple farmers all in a day
November 13th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
Good for him.....never one to shy away! Go get em coach
November 13th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
Letting the judge see him as a person and the effect this has on him seems like a good thing, legal arguments aside.
Good for him.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:15 PM ^
What do you think he wears to impress the judge? Suit or khakis with a whistle around his neck?
November 13th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^
I'm betting he will show the court respect and wear a bolo tie.
November 13th, 2023 at 5:21 PM ^
And cleats.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:58 PM ^
The clickity clack of the cleats outta do the trick
November 13th, 2023 at 6:57 PM ^
A man suit of Ryan Day’s Hide!
November 13th, 2023 at 7:09 PM ^
He would need to find a tailor for the necropants because I doubt Day has the real estate downstairs to provide suitable manly support
November 13th, 2023 at 9:21 PM ^
That seems contradictory.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:59 PM ^
What would Ted Lasso wear.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:00 PM ^
With council?
November 13th, 2023 at 6:20 PM ^
I presume his attorneys will try to get him on the stand. Ask him a few questions about opponents colluding and providing each other advance scouting on Michigan. Or any other dirt on other teams that went unpunished. Just the appearance of an arbitrary judgement on Petitti’s part and it should be game, set, match for an injunction.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:42 PM ^
Hmm… I was just wondering when we were going to hear about the rest of the info UM has regarding their illegally obtained practice footage and OSU’s other transgressions, if it’s true we still have more to disclose. Maybe they’re holding it to bring out on court record.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:46 PM ^
I am not aware whether they have any other dirt or not. However, something I was thinking about was, if they are serious about leaving. Do they sit on the material to avoid the negativity of that as it pertains to other schools feeling like they snitched? I'm not sure it is relevant but it made me wonder if that could play a role in the release to not to release.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:41 PM ^
Michigan does not have to formally release material for it to get out. Whoever has the info, if there really is any, would leak it to a friendly investigative reporter. With a successful story, that reporter would then get budget to run down the story more and it may grow legs.
Lather, rinse, repeat with all of it.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:58 PM ^
Exactly. That is a game that two can play. Pick the time and place.
November 13th, 2023 at 3:53 PM ^
They don’t have anything. If they did and the big ten thought it was even half true, they would’ve stfu. It was all bark on our end and big ten didn’t buy it
November 13th, 2023 at 3:56 PM ^
Take your own advice and STFU.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:05 PM ^
I love when posts like this get downvoted. Obviously the most likely explanation is what you said—Michigan never had any such information—but people love clinging to some fantasy world where we built up a massive dossier against Ohio State and other B1G schools as if we’re the fucking FBI or CIA. It always sounded like a pipe dream to me.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:15 PM ^
The "massive dossier" theory was the perfect example of the kind of thing an internet mob in full dudgeon comes up with.
This place was better when it wasn't a mob.
In terms of the substance, I rooted for the team hard on Saturday -- as I've done for a helluva lot of consecutive Saturdays -- but this idea that they and the school have been somehow "victimized" doesn't really stand up to any kind of rational thinking.
To some of us, it's an off-putting pose. Just sayin'.
Just play the football games.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:24 PM ^
Agree. Just hope that if there is more bullshit out there, and the NCAA/B1G has been given proof but passed on following up, then airing it on public record would just be so bad ass. Probably too much to hope for. This isn’t a Scorsese movie.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:27 PM ^
You mean how the players who have had nothing to do with any of this are called a bunch of cheaters and are being told by the national media and other fanbases that they don't deserve to play for a national championship this year despite them doing everything the right way? Yeah, you're right, totally not victims of anything at all. They ARE just playing the football games, and they're being told that isn't good enough, which is unacceptable.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^
Are you talking about commentators on other message boards, or actually serious people? Because I haven't seen anyone serious calling our players cheaters.
When you set out to steal other teams' signs in this way, and get caught red-handed, blowback from avid college football fans is inevitable. Sometimes the blowback will be scattershot.
It's the nature of the beast. Heat, kitchen, et cetera.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:58 PM ^
So it’s clearly your presumption that Moore, minter and/or harbaugh knew about this. There’s no other way to read “ when you set out”.
Maybe I’m naive, but I believe no one but Connor knew. I believe he’s a nut job who thought he was doing something good. I have no idea whether he thought it was legal or not. But I certainly believe that he knew about sign sharing and didn’t think this was any different. And in regard to that I don’t disagree.
November 13th, 2023 at 5:10 PM ^
At the very least, the coordinators made use of Stallions's work, during the games. So it's "receipt of stolen property" at a bare minimum. The NCAA already has all of his work and is now at the point of seeing which coaches knew what, when.
How much "help" they provided is a different question. That piece is probably oversold.
Massive blowback is to be expected. We'd be "blowing back" big time if this was Bama or Ohio or Little Brother.
Everyone is on alert now and changed their signals, so if we smoke Ohio in two weeks they have no basis whatsoever to complain.
November 13th, 2023 at 5:34 PM ^
Stolen property. Lol. So is sign sharing. Everyone should get in line. Connor was dumb and overboard but nothing that is in the end any different than other teams. And I don’t believe any more legal or illegal.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:20 PM ^
Everyone is on alert now and changed their signals, so if we smoke Ohio in two weeks they have no basis whatsoever to complain.
Watch them.
November 13th, 2023 at 6:22 PM ^
Receipt of stolen goods required that the receiving party knows they were stolen as a basic tenet.
The NCAA has already said it has no reason to believe Harbaugh knew what Stallions was up to
November 13th, 2023 at 6:51 PM ^
You cannot steal something that is freely given away.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:02 PM ^
I don’t really agree with part of this take. If the situations were reversed and this was OSU I wouldn’t be that upset. At first I would have been, but once I learned that sign stealing is legal and that we had their signs too and had shared them with other opponents, I like to think I am rational enough to say, “Why did we waste all this time and energy trying to pretend that how they got some signs decoded affected the games when it clearly did not.” Ryan Day knows this had no effect. Their goal has always been to try and create enough of a mess that Harbaugh just leaves rather than putting up with it. This has never been about remedying any actuaL competitive disadvantage. Most people who have football expertise outside the B1G coaches and AD’s have downplayed the significance of this activity, just like the NCAA did when they considered abolishing the rule against in person scouting.
November 13th, 2023 at 7:11 PM ^
Stalions was the sign-stealing guy. Moore and Minter cannot be presumed to know Stalions got the signs illegally (if what he did was against NCAA rules) simply because Stalions was telling them the other team's signals on the sidelines.
Further, there seems to be a broad consensus not only that Connor's Big Spreadsheet Adventure provided a significant sign-stealing edge, but also that Stalions was materially better than other sign stealers. That's what's at the heart of Eleven Warriors' fever dream that Michigan didn't really beat that ass two years in a row.
But . . . where is the evidence for that? If you've seen this established anywhere, please advise.
November 13th, 2023 at 8:57 PM ^
As for using the signals , this has been addressed.
It has been established that sign stealing or decoding is indeed not against the rules, so why would the coordinators or even The Coach himself have any reason to not reasonably assume that Stallions was simply doing the job he was assigned?
After all there is documented evidence that other teams were doing the exact same thing effectively.
November 13th, 2023 at 9:33 PM ^
You say a lot of dumb things. “Receipt of stolen property” being the most recent.
November 13th, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^
I for one love the narrative that we only beat Ohio by stealing their signs. Let their ego walk themselves right into a third straight loss as they think there is no real way we could defeat them. 🙄
It isn't to say I don't think they intend to bring every bit of their 'A' game to us - but it's a minor psychological edge and I'll take it.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:37 PM ^
Good thing the other fanbases and national media have no say in whether they play for a national championship, then. Yeah it's an unfair label. The team seems to lean into into it, though, and draw strength from it.
November 13th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^
Really ?
November 13th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^
They (and you) are getting downvoted for being a dick about it