Great Michigan Daily Summary of Harbaugh's Contract Extension

Submitted by GoBlue2002 on January 22nd, 2024 at 2:45 PM

This is hands down the best article I've read about Harbaugh's contract extension drama and how Warde Manuel isn't solely to blame. 

What a great summation of a negotiation that has put the program in a less than ideal situation. FWIW, I'm all for Harbaugh staying, but he's got to want it too!

Michigan Daily Link

Parkinen

January 22nd, 2024 at 3:39 PM ^

Doesn't seem to be a lot of new information here.

One of the hitches seems to be Harbaugh's desire that if the NCAA comes down with further penalties related to the two matters under investigation, that the school not use these as a basis to terminate his contract.  Two thoughts on this:

 

1.  Harbaugh asserts that he is innocent and has been candid with both the School and the NCAA.  And the School indicates that they believe his version of the facts.  (e.g. he was candid with the NCAA and knew nothing of Stallion's activities.)  That being the case, why can't the School agree that should there be further disciplinary action from the NCAA concerning the matters disclosed that they will not use this as a basis for termination.  However, if new facts are revealed and it is determined that Harbaugh has been less than truthful, then this could be a basis for termination.

2.  Even if the School did terminate Harbaugh, is there any real doubt that he wouldn't land on his feet with the NFL in a matter of days?  He might be unemployed but I doubt that it would for long.  It's not like these NFL options are a once in a lifetime opportunity. In fact, they seem to happen every year about this time.   

Finally, when you hire talented people this is part of what you have to live with.  They are by nature, ambitious and because they are very good at what they do, they are also in demand.  That's the nature of the beast.  

Amazinblu

January 22nd, 2024 at 3:40 PM ^

It takes two willing parties to negotiate.  I’m not taking sides.  Warde’s put something on the table, Jim’s evaluating his options.

It’s been a great last three years.  What happens… happens..

Go Blue!

maquih

January 22nd, 2024 at 3:44 PM ^

They're just wrong.  It's up to Harbaugh to sign it, yes, but there's no excuse for Warde to not have had the final contract drafted and ready to sign weeks ago.  There's nothing to negotiate, give him the arbitration panel and anything else he wants.  Also have an offer, ready to sign, for Moore in case Harbaugh says no. 

Warde is simply not good at his job.

mackbru

January 22nd, 2024 at 9:21 PM ^

By all reports, a new contract was indeed offered to Harbaugh many weeks ago. You're just making shit up to fit your narrative. When Warde says "we're working on it," he simply means they're in the haggling phase. That's how it works. Clearly Harbaugh just hasn't wanted to sign a contract until the NFL thing plays out. Is it really that shattering to comprehend that maybe Harbaugh isn't prioritizing Michigan?

Maize and Luke

January 22nd, 2024 at 3:52 PM ^

I give Harbaugh more blame than Warde. If Michigan was his #1 choice he wouldn’t be interviewing with NFL teams. He would let the world know he’s staying at Michigan and figure out the details later. 


I love Harbaugh as much as the rest of you. Build a statue, name the stadium after him, whatever we can do to honor him, I’m all for it. But this holding the program hostage bullshit has to stop. How many recruits and transfers have we missed out on because of this? It’s so frustrating.

Wolverine 73

January 22nd, 2024 at 3:52 PM ^

I don’t buy the statement in the article that most people wanted Harbaugh gone in 2020.  I think most people were disappointed, but realized what a weird year the Covid year was, and still had hope for Harbaugh.

ca_prophet

January 22nd, 2024 at 9:18 PM ^

If the blog's writers and comments are a reasonable proxy for "most people", "most people" wanted Harbaugh shot into the sun.  The blog has a WhenCanWeFireThisGuy tag, which might be instructive, but these might illuminate our collective thoughts ...

Brian had lost hope:
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[Weinreb] I would worry most of all that if Harbaugh somehow fails at Michigan, it will be the most definitive proof yet that no one can succeed in Ann Arbor anymore.

That's obviously overstated until you're staring down a 2-6, 3-5 kind of season in year six and the Black Pit Of Negative Expectations has signed a long-term lease in your head.

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I can't imagine Jim Harbaugh makes this work any more.
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Ace had lost hope:
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In Detroit's case, the fans knew it was time to move on before the franchise did, leading to a wasted 2020 season. May Michigan's leadership not make the same mistake.
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Seth discussed moving on from Harbaugh at least twice:
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Ace: When the main argument against firing a coach is “but what comes next?” that coach probably needs to go.
Seth: I think the main argument is "Can Michigan do better?" Not Michigan as if we're in charge. Is Warde Manuel going to get an improvement on Jim Harbaugh?
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We run through the plausible name and then talk about 20 other guys. Bad year to be doing this if they don't get Campbell, probably.
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Beat Rutgerland

January 22nd, 2024 at 3:58 PM ^

I have no idea, it's interesting there's such a split in the fan base between "Warde's fault" "not Warde's fault" camps.

I'd prefer Michigan not retain Warde, as it seems like we can argue about what is or is not his fault, but we can't argue over his successes because there aren't any. OK, he didn't fire Harbaugh when there was moderate pressure to do so after the 2020 season, would have been a pretty rash move, but I guess it was possible. I'll give him that one.

Cam

January 22nd, 2024 at 4:09 PM ^

People actually thought Warde was solely to blame? As if our AD would just casually let one of the top 5 coaches in the world go without a fight, risking his own job in the process? 

funkywolve

January 22nd, 2024 at 4:22 PM ^

I know a lot of people like to blame Warde, but Warde isn't the one drafting the contract.  UM's attorney's are drafting it.  Warde can tell the attorneys what to put in for pay, years of the contract, bonuses, etc.  When it comes to other aspects of the contract Warde can recommend changes, additions and removals of certain things but Watde isn't going to be able to override the attorneys.  

shoes

January 22nd, 2024 at 7:39 PM ^

The University, and Warde as the person delegated the authority to negotiate coaches' contracts are the clients. The attorneys serve the client, they don't dictate key provisions, they can recommend and point out risks, but the client is the decision-maker, not the attorney.

funkywolve

January 22nd, 2024 at 8:14 PM ^

Is the University going to outside counsel?  The university has their own staff of attorneys.

https://ogc.umich.edu/attorneys-staff/

I definitely agree with what you're saying if the university has engaged outside counsel on the university's behalf in these negotiations. At the same time, Warde is not the ultimate decision maker for some of the provisions and language in the contract, whether the university has outside counsel or not.  There's going to be sections of the lease that he isn't qualified to read and understand the nuances.

 

 

MichiganFootball

January 23rd, 2024 at 10:19 AM ^

I don't think that's quite right that he's not the ultimate decision maker.

The attorneys are going to be the one who draft the language and make clear the risks and implications of different clauses, but it's going to be up to Warde as to whether or not he wants to give Harbaugh certain things or not.  He's the final decision maker, subject to supervision by the regents and the university president (who play more of an advisory role in terms of contract like this).

tsunami42080

January 22nd, 2024 at 4:26 PM ^

IIRC, he’s on record telling Warde his anual NFL dalliance wouldnt be an issue anymore. If he does come back I’d have to assume that simply becomes an annual thing? I can’t imagine that dream would just vanish.

Catchafire

January 22nd, 2024 at 4:37 PM ^

Anyone thinking Warde is to blame is foolish.  It is clear that Harbaugh wants to go to the NFL... Real clear, because he does this every year after a successful season.  I can't blame Harbaugh either, because he gave us what we wanted.

Ali G Bomaye

January 22nd, 2024 at 4:40 PM ^

If we wind back the tape to 2020, Manuel slashed Harbaugh’s contract after the worst season of Michigan football since John F. Kennedy was president.

I just realized that anyone writing for the Michigan Daily now was probably around five years old during the 2008 season.

white_pony_rocks

January 22nd, 2024 at 4:43 PM ^

He was suspended half the season this year and they didn’t fire him. He’s not getting a show cause from either incident so it’s not like the NCAA is gonna force the university to fire him and be out $120 MM so why does the university care about these clauses so much now? Plus they can financially absorb paying him for another half a season while he’s suspended not bringing in value, he’ll bring in more money than that would cost. 

b618

January 22nd, 2024 at 4:44 PM ^

Meh.

Get Harbaugh signed.  Do what it takes.  Don't blow it.  No excuses.

This should have been done more than half a year ago.

BoCanHam15

January 22nd, 2024 at 5:29 PM ^

Something, something, Warde, he did and didn't do what he thought about what they said he did, or didn't do, under his own authority.  His authority sucks, and his non-authoritative approach is quite lazy!  He's done a wonderful job doing nothing.  Thanks Warde, for hiring Jim.  Although it was you who did the hiring it's not a great thing. It was your job to do a great job, in which you suck at.  GO BLUE!!!

Eng1980

January 22nd, 2024 at 5:49 PM ^

BoFan makes a good point.  For me, the issue is the NCAA treats every coach as their "at will" employee.  Due process and equal protection (punishment) under the law are lacking.  

"should the NCAA reveal a fireable offense."  Hah, their opinion is the standard for creating a fireable offense.  They don't like Jim's attitude becomes not forthcoming and he lied.  The NCAA isn't satisfied with probation they want their constituents to kiss the ring of their opinion.

sackett

January 22nd, 2024 at 6:20 PM ^

As a donor, I was invited to the Rose Bowl luncheon reception and the pre-game tailgate. I had the opportunity to meet President Ono. My last sentence to him was: "I hope we can keep Jimmy." He looked me right in the eye and w/o hesitation said: "Believe me, I'm doing everything I can to make that happen." Contrast this w/my brief exchange w/Warde where I repeated the same. He said: "I hope so too." I'm only an attorney and not a psychologist or psychiatrist. That said, FWIW, my sense of his body language and tone smacked of patronizing insincerity. 

greymarch

January 22nd, 2024 at 6:45 PM ^

Harbaugh's gone.  Rip that band-aid off right now.  You will thank us later.

 

Might be for the best.  Harbaugh's wrecking UM grabbing players from the transfer portal.  Who wants to transfer to a school when you have no idea who the head coach will be?

 

In Sharrone we trust.

 

#GoBlue

CLord

January 23rd, 2024 at 1:00 AM ^

Hate to go there but Jim may have a bit of "little brother" going on.  Losing that Super Bowl to his older brother likely left some familial scar tissue that only a competitive younger brother can understand.

If John wins it all again this year (Ravens are favored to) that only adds fuel to the fire given Jim knows he has the goods to do it too.

It's all good.  I'll bask in this NC for years,  no matter how many NC's Ohio State proceeds to buy itself through the portal with Third Base at the helm.

ChampsoftheWest

January 23rd, 2024 at 3:27 AM ^

Maybe this wasn’t rehashed yet, but at most I imagine Jim would be suspended for one year. Couldn’t we pony up a donor like Stephen Ross to cover his one year of salary? Also, I understand clearly the NCAA isn’t a court of law, so we could probably go through the TRO/appeals process again EARLY in the season and still have Jim coach (albeit missing a few games max, namely Texas)? At least he wouldn’t be out for the whole season.

Considering the NCAA is close to bankruptcy and has lost court cases left and right the past few years, I feel this is the worst case outcome in regards to his suspension if we fought it in court, and the immunity clause doesn’t seem so far fetched in his contract.

wheatonwolverine

January 23rd, 2024 at 9:58 AM ^

I have a prediction I haven't heard floated yet. What if Harbaugh doesn't get an NFL job this year AND doesn't sign an extension? He would still be under contract here until 2026 with a smaller buyout. I think if doesn't go to the NFL this year, he will NOT sign an extension, no matter how much money is offered. The man is already rich many times over. 

doubleblue2

January 23rd, 2024 at 11:32 AM ^

No. Not a good article. An attempt at an article that does not know or discuss the leaks to the press and Manuel’s relationship w Stapleton and Stapleton wanting harbaugh gone.  Sorry. I’m not an insider but I know enough people who are very close and these are real issues.