Gattis still making 100% of the calls?
I can't believe this is true. No way Gattis calls for Ben Mason to run the ball inside the 10. That has Harbaugh's delusional arse all over it.
Where is the speed in space!? If JH isn't allowing him to run his own offense I would be shouting it in all media outlets that this isn't my offense. If not, he isn't going to be able to get another job after Michigan.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:04 PM ^
Probably throwing your head coach under the bus isn't a way to get another job either.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:07 PM ^
Looked like JH took over playcalling the 2nd half -- he had the cards on the sideline after they came out at halftime.
P.S. Like the majority of threads on the board at the moment, this thread is terrible. You so-called fans are pathetic and should be ashamed.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:15 PM ^
He always has the cards on the sideline.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:17 PM ^
LOL, yup. He hears the plays being called and likely wants to check them.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:50 PM ^
P.s. pound sand.
September 30th, 2019 at 7:55 PM ^
Yeah, he had to be in the mix.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:08 PM ^
Does it matter? The players weren't prepared and the coaches had to no adjustments.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:10 PM ^
Gattis is a first time playcaller and never ran his own offense before. I don’t know why people expected him to not have some struggles his first year doing the job.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:00 PM ^
Because the hype machine told us otherwise.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:38 PM ^
Bingo. Hype machine in full force every year. We lost 3 of the best players of recent memory (Winovich, Bush and Gary) to last years NFL draft, and somehow people bought into the "we will be better this year" hype.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:04 PM ^
Better question, why would a head coach paid elite HC money at a one time elite football school, hire somebody who has never been an OC at any level?
September 21st, 2019 at 8:13 PM ^
Because Gattis came up in a google search??
September 21st, 2019 at 6:11 PM ^
JH is meddling. It doesn't make sense that Gattis who learned under Moorehead and Locksley calls some of the plays he does. Harbaugh is calling plays too.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:07 PM ^
Seriously, who didn't see this coming?
September 21st, 2019 at 6:13 PM ^
No, he never did, never was, and never will be.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:13 PM ^
Harbaugh said they were "going all the way" with this offense. He lied. This is another half-assed hybrid. He gave up going under center and huddling but kept his slow pace and heavy use of multiple TE formations.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:15 PM ^
That changed the game. We're looking at 7-7 but instead, it goes to 14-0 and eventually 35-0. When it hit 21-0, I think UM knew it was over. With our offense, they knew they would not come back. Also, that video clip of Shea's saying the offense was looking to make a statement will be an unforgivable meme for a long time.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:26 PM ^
I mean or Shea could have not over thrown Nico on first down and it would have been 7-7
September 21st, 2019 at 6:28 PM ^
I don’t see anything wrong with the Mason goal line package. It worked last year. And he was gaining yards, fighting for extra yards on that play. Then...the fumble. Aargh. Them’s the breaks man.
Not sure it would have mattered if we did score there. We couldn’t stop their offense. And our O-line was overwhelmed by their stunts and tricks and strength.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:16 PM ^
Aside from not practicing with the offense since the bowl game, and at that it was a different offense, I can't see why there would be any problems.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:15 PM ^
Well they certainly made a statement. Not the one we were hoping to hear, but they did make a statement.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:16 PM ^
Before this year, Gattis had never installed an offense at any level of football.
Before this year, Gattis had never called a play at any level of football.
Anyone can tweet #SpeedInSpace, it is literally meaningless in terms of evaluating how a coach will call a game.
Maybe Harbaugh is dictating specific calls, or general strategies; maybe he's not. But it is entirely possible that this is 100% Gattis. Unless you count tweeting slogans as a significant data point, we have no evidence that Gattis doesn't call games this way when given full reign.
A statement like, "No way Gattis calls for Ben Mason..." has no evidence backing it; none whatsoever. Maybe the imaginary version of Gattis that you have in your head based on offseason reports from practices wouldn't call that play, but for the real life Gattis, we simply have no evidence to support that.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:20 PM ^
We have evidence that Gattis's mentors do NOT favor multi-TE formations with only 2 wideouts. They don't play at a slow pace. We have evidence that Harbaugh values these things and always has. I think it's pretty easy to see what is going on here.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:20 PM ^
Except we do have plenty of evidence that this is exactly how Harbaugh calls games.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:22 PM ^
Yes that's. . .exactly what I said.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:27 PM ^
harbaugh calls entirely shotgun offenses with no fullbacks?
harbaugh calls a majority pass plays, even when the game was [briefly] close?
this is absurd. the only thing that you can point to that you feel is similar to a harbaugh offense is that it's not working.
"harbaugh's offense" fucking paved this same wisconsin team to the tune of 300+ rushing yards last year.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:19 PM ^
Nothing wrong with that call, except for the fumble, which wasn’t part of the call.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:22 PM ^
I liked it at the time. I actually thought to myself “at least he won’t fumble”
September 21st, 2019 at 6:20 PM ^
Here's the sequence on Coach Cam:
starts at 21:00 with Ronnie Bell's 70 yard reception.
the next play is incomplete slant to Nico
the next play michigan lines up with Mason and then has to take a time out.
harbaugh is pretty clearly NOT calling plays before the timeout.
during the timeout, he's talking a lot. maybe to Gattis or the team. hard to tell.
regardless, the play was called before the timeout and they came back in the same exact formation.
so, yes, I believe Gattis made that play call.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:21 PM ^
Not to mention the screens to Eubanks, why aren’t those going to Sainristil
September 21st, 2019 at 6:32 PM ^
Alabama ran these kind of screens to [Tight End] Irv Smith Jr all the time last year.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:29 PM ^
Just gotta execute - BH
September 21st, 2019 at 6:29 PM ^
Did you see the amount of passing in this game? Look I’m not saying harbaugh isn’t the problem overall but it’s pretty obvious he’s not calling all these passes.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:30 PM ^
There was a board thread that was all about Mason in GL/short yardage. Lots of posts to the same effect. Ironic...this.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:33 PM ^
fuck speed in space we are a train wreck
September 21st, 2019 at 7:04 PM ^
Is it a high speed train wreck in space?
September 21st, 2019 at 6:52 PM ^
Having Ben Mason try to plow for a 2 yard gain in short situations is one thing. Trying is a long yardage down is... odd.
September 21st, 2019 at 6:52 PM ^
At this point what difference does it make?
September 21st, 2019 at 6:57 PM ^
If Harbaugh isn't calling the plays, maybe he should. Because the offense is hot garbage and it looked better when he was the play caller.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:04 PM ^
Gattis is a certified dumb ass.
September 21st, 2019 at 8:24 PM ^
If that's true, what does that make the guy that hired him?
September 21st, 2019 at 7:45 PM ^
I’d he called the mason plays it was with a JH hand on his shoulder...that play was an a disgrace...kids been practicing at DL all year let’s five him a week of practice in the back field hand off inside the 10? Not doing that kid any favors.
September 21st, 2019 at 7:46 PM ^
Probably the worst thing Jim could do is to yank play calling from Gattis. He needs to help Gattis get through this. Who will want the job if you undermine them when the going gets tough?
September 21st, 2019 at 9:40 PM ^
I don't know who is calling what play on the sideline. What I do know .... the communication between Harbaugh and Gattis during game time is not working out well. Inconsistent play calling between last years power game, and this years spread. As a fan I am confused. Can't imagine the players who are trying to execute it.
September 22nd, 2019 at 8:34 AM ^
The plays would work if we had a competent QB
September 22nd, 2019 at 10:33 AM ^
You're right, let's get the guy with back-to-back home losses to EMU and Nebraska.
September 22nd, 2019 at 8:54 AM ^
Too much wrong with this team. I feel sorry for Gaddis is JH is doing more play calling.
The issues with this team go way beyond who's calling offensive plays.
September 30th, 2019 at 7:54 PM ^
*Gattis dude, come on...not GADDIS.
September 30th, 2019 at 7:54 PM ^
Not a chance. Even Sirius XM called him out.