Former Iowa Players Allege Racist Culture Under Ferentz
Former Iowa players (current players are banned from Twitter, apparently) started speaking out last night about mistreatment they felt like they experienced at Iowa. Most of it from the strength coach that Ferentz loves. Some of it is vague generalities, others are pretty obvious/blatant.
Doyle will be gone by Monday and Ferentz by Friday. Players want blood.
the school should disband the coaching staff and just let the players coach themselves. That will solve the problem
Good. Ferentz seems like a dick to me. Broom him and bring in Bielema!
I know coaches are way different on recruiting trips but on my official visit to Iowa, he was a really cool guy and talked to everyone.
Whoever negged this comment is a jerk. Nars simply reported an experience he had that was counter to the current narrative. It's simply one person's anecdote. Are you saying he is a liar? He isn't saying people who had a different experience are assholes. C'mon folks, we have to be decent to one another or we are never going to address our very deep seated problems.
When I started typing this Nars was -1. When I was done he was +1. Good.
Easy Robbie Moore. If your going to get this hung up on 1 negged comment you will have a real problem with this board...
Did you find that coaches at other schools acted differently?
Huh. Seems like the opposite of a dick to me.
That's what she said
+1 underrated
One thing everyone can count upon from the Iowa AD is change.
Jesus, this isn't one or two players even.
yeah, not outliers, but a definite trend.
I’m sure a lot of coaches are thinking about their past. It’s nice to know Harbaugh has been on the right side.
Except he stepped in it when expressing his view on abortion. But no that doesn't mean that we should discuss abortion now.
300 year old white man in Iowa tolerates racism, news at 11.
Congressman Steven King of Iowa says hi!
He lost his primary last week.
yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah EVERYONES a racist...GOT IT!!!!!!!
Take your privilege elsewhere, good day sir!
All Americans are privileged.
I've got some family living on a reservation that would beg to differ.
Yes, even them. No one did anything to create rights. Those were created by long dead people.
What privilege is it that you believe my Native American relations have in this country that they wouldnt6have 8f America didn't exist?
Well, considering that they didn’t have rights as we understand them today and were subject to raids.where people were enslaved I would say that Native Americans are privileged in comparison to their forebears and many around the globe.
Do you just not know the history of Native Americans, or do you not care about it?
European colonizers killed tens of millions of indigenous peoples. They then stole all of their land, attempted to destroy their culture, stole their children, and broke every treaty they possibly could along the way.
True, and if they were capable of it they'd have done the same thing to the Europeans. And if you think otherwise then you are the true racist.
I'd really appreciate it if you'd share what you believe to be the definition of racism.
Dude - “tens of MILLIONS”? Not even close. How about “tens of thousands”?
The Indian wars under the government of the United States have been more than 40 in number. They have cost the lives of about 19,000 white men, women and children, including those killed in individual combats, and the lives of about 30,000 Indians. The actual number of killed and wounded Indians must be very much higher than the number given ... Fifty percent additional would be a safe estimate
Yes, even them. No one did anything to create rights. Those were created by long dead people.
You're close.. not everyone. Just the descendants of colonizing whites.
What you guys are witnessing is a paradigm shift. And I love it lol. Chickens will always come home to roost. No matter how long it takes. What? You thought we'd be sleep forever?
Lmao
Yes, everyone. No one alive did anything to create the concept of rights. No one alive did anything to codify rights. Rights are a human construct that does not exist in the natural world.
So yes, you are privileged. We all are.
”We’d sleep forever”. What exactly does this mean? Do you think you can intimidate people with empty rhetoric?
If this were serious there would be a Sinn Fein/IRA-type organization. Instead we see hooliganism. AntiFa is lame as fuck. Mindless chaotic violence that doesn’t hurt who it is intended to hurt.
Revolutions that lasted had leaders and organization. We don’t see that here.
I can accept the premise that we're all privileged - but surely you'd agree that certain groups are (disproportionately) more privileged than others?
I can' t wait for some real football conversations. Yikes!
It's shit like this that make me miss the days this board was tracking flights for a new coach
Interesting comment. What’s more important to talk and sleuth about? Flight tracking of coaches or coach racism?
This is the mother of all straw men. He didn't say it was a more important conversation in any way. I am guessing he means he wishes he could read about Michigan sports when he comes here instead of pandemics and systemic racism. They are both very important topics and need to be discussed but this isn't the place most people would come to have those conversations. I would argue he didn't have to click on this post seeing as how it didn't hide it's topic in any way but that doesn't mean you should be throwing out logical fallacies and belittling another board member looking for his usual escape from the heavy topics being shown everywhere else in life right now.
Idk. The dress code issues and car inquiries don't seem like problems.
The strength coach was probably too cavalier and it will probably cost him his job.
You don't see a problem with calling black players into your office to ask where/how they got a new car, but not white players with probably more expensive trucks?
Maybe the white guys got asked too, or the coaches didn’t know about the truck. Got to be careful to jump to conclusions. Not that it’s related but I know in my life I’ve been caught thinking something happened for a specific reason but later found out it was for completely different reasons. That being said it very well could’ve been racist in nature, I’m just saying other possibilities do exist.
This kind of "maybe, but..." is a huge part of the problem. I work for a large company, and the proportion of black people in just about every part of it is lower than it should be. Do you want to know what the number one thing they brought up this past week when discussing their experience at work? It was how all of the off-hand comments, the interactions with their coworkers, added up to make them feel lesser-than in the office, but whenever they bring it up, they're told "oh, that sounds like a misunderstanding" or "lighten up". They had bigger, just as important issues they mentioned as well, but that was the most common one they voiced.
White people need to stop that reflex to defend everyone. It's ok to acknowledge that something you didn't mean to be offensive made someone else feel bad, and agree to be more thoughtful in the future. It's not necessary to say "maybe they asked the white guys too" because the white guys aren't the ones bringing it up as a situation that made them feel like the coaches weren't on their side, giving them the benefit of the doubt, or treating them the same as their peers.
Two changes everyone can make right now, for themselves, are re-framing their perspective that people are or aren't racist, and when racist/insensitive actions are called out to just acknowledge that you hear them and do your best not to do it again.
Well everyone MUST get an opportunity to pursue what they love, but why must everything be measured in terms of quotas and have to follow certain percentages?
Women still make up the vast majority of nurses and school teachers, Asians make up such a small percentage of professional athletes. Shall we enact quotas for everything.
I didn't say that. But we have a portion of our company that doesn't see anyone like them in leadership. Part of hiring is hiring for experience, and black managers, directors, and executives would have experiences and backgrounds that would make our company a lot stronger. When we get talented black people in entry level jobs, who do they talk to about the specific challenges they face? When the best candidate for a position is black, how do we convince them that this is a place they should want to work?
Same goes for teachers, nurses, etc. The root of this specific problem is that white people (myself included!) don't recognize or acknowledge the value of those perspectives because we haven't run up against the same challenges.
If a "quota" is the policy it takes to bring about that change in my company, I'm fine with it, but I would hope we could get to more diversity simply by valuing it because it's smart and benefits the business as well.
Talent follows the money regardless of their color. If you're company doesn't pay then talented people, regardless of ethnicity, won't be interested in working there.
That's true to an extent I suppose, but no one wants to join up somewhere they're going to feel uncomfortable or unwelcome and if they see no one that looks like them, they're going to wonder why that is.
My company pays well, certainly enough to be competitive, but company culture matters a lot. We do really well on things like vacation, maternity/paternity leave, and work/life balance, but our diversity leaves a lot to be desired. We're working on it, but recent events have brought the issues to the front of the conversation in a way they haven't been before and that's a good thing in my opinion.
Sorry at least I disagree with your comment about people not wanting to join a place where no one looks like them.
I joined an organization where no one looked like me nor did I care one bit as I believed solely in the American dream of working hard and being rewarded. I looked to and emulated people who were smart, worked hard, and achieved regardless of how they looked vis-a-vis me, and it paid off for me.
That's great for you, truly. I don't know if you're white or not, but minorities have been working as hard or harder than white people without receiving equal treatment, promotions etc. for a long time, and not having black employees in leadership sends the message that there's a ceiling for you if you work here.
Again, this is all based on the comments I've heard in the last week or two. Not everyone feels exactly the same, but it was a very common refrain. If you are in fact white, I would encourage you to seek out and listen to the black voices around you. If you're not, then I would just say you have a different perspective than the voices I've heard recently, and I'll add your thoughts to my own education.
Minorities do this all the time. Sometimes it's their only choice.
Wait, you are arguing that people shouldn’t jump to conclusions until all the facts have been gathered? What a quaint concept in the 21st century.
It's rather daunting to determine what "facts" are in this story. More like impossible. In today's world an accusation is as good as a fact, especially if more than one accusation is made.