File this under things you can't make up: Indiana contacted Big Ten over controversial calls from Michigan game
I have no words.
Indiana was the victim of a few questionable calls during its Week 7 game against the Wolverines, two of which proved to be devastating for the Hoosiers. The first was a defensive pass interference call that negated a Rashard Fant interception. The other, and maybe even more important, was an onside kick that Simmie Cobbs appeared to possess while in bounds late in the game.
Allen was livid with those two calls on Saturday and still isn’t too happy about the ruling early this week. But the Hoosiers’ head coach has taken the proper steps in making the conference aware of his concerns.
“There’s a protocol for that,” Allen said during his press conference on Monday. “We’ve had good discussions, very professional, handled the right way.”
October 16th, 2017 at 4:24 PM ^
October 17th, 2017 at 1:16 PM ^
or took a few liberties with our female party guests.
We did.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
I'm mid-way through analyzing every call / no-call I could find in the game. Early returns are that there were a couple of calls IU was on the wrong end of (PI on McDoom on the INT), but Michigan had significantly more terrible calls against them, or a lack of calls that should have been there.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:05 PM ^
It wasn't late nor he did hepick up the QB and drop him on his head -- it was just a sack. Not Mo's fault the kid is built like a rag doll.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:14 PM ^
Dierdorf also pointed out that because Hurst made contact with the center, nothing else mattered, the play should have been blown dead right there.
October 16th, 2017 at 6:10 PM ^
October 17th, 2017 at 12:53 AM ^
That's because these losers that the B1G employ as refs couldn't sack your groceries the right way at your local Wal-Mart. These morons are watching the Michigan players so closely to fuck them over, they miss the opposing teams shady tactics. And someone please tell me when we are going to complain and start doing something about defensive backs grabbing jerseys to keep up with receivers. If the fucking idiots cant see that bullshit, they should be kicked in the nuts and then the teeth because they are MORONS. How is that allowed?
October 16th, 2017 at 4:26 PM ^
well, what's that old adage that if both sides are pissed at you, you're doing your job right?
October 16th, 2017 at 5:16 PM ^
...that every team is in contact with the Big Ten office after every game.
October 16th, 2017 at 6:53 PM ^
correct
October 16th, 2017 at 11:12 PM ^
I'm sure every team has a couple calls they submit every game (rightfully so) but they mostly even out or in this case, IU probably has fewer complaints than we do.
Yawn.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
And Harbaugh should ask the B1G to look at the 16 others that went Indiana's way. Intentional grounding anyone?
October 16th, 2017 at 4:42 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 5:08 PM ^
Why was the onside kick questionable? He bobbled it. Sucks he couldn't hold on to it but that doesn't change the fact that he couldn't.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:21 PM ^
It wasn't questionable. More continuing his cry-baby antics. Both by Allen and by that shitty website. Look at the stills on the linked site. It doesn't prove anything. It is crystal clear by review that he didn't catch the ball cleanly. I'm not sure how you can bitch at a video review that shows clear and convincing evidence of what happened.
Its fine to complain or ask for explanations about judgemental calls like that PI (although laughable being they benefited from the exact same call in the exact same situation) but not sure how or why you would question something that was reviewed
October 17th, 2017 at 12:59 AM ^
Well my friend, we could sit here and question logic for hours and we'd have no further explanation at the end than we did at the start. People really are that stupid. Grown and tax paying adults. I'm becoming a hermit in my old age of 35 because people are just so damn dumb and annoying. I'm so sick of it. My social skills are going straight in the shitter because I cant talk to people anymore.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:40 PM ^
if he had secured it without the ball moving when he first got it, he was good, but the ball moved and he was out of bounds. If Indiana only got one bad call, I'd not be the one to focus on it, if it brought up all the other bad/ missed calls that helped Indiana.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:14 PM ^
Questionable? I guess. The DPI moreso. Though I would note that I thought it could be called defensive holding and I don't believe we ever saw the view from the official's point of view who threw the flag. He had a fist full of jersey for 10 steps and it appeared to prevent McDoom from turning. The official was staring right at it. If you want to call it "rubbin's racing," fine, but that's not how the game was officiated.
On the onside kick, he clearly bobbled it. The only reason it appeared questionable was because it was hard to judge that he had bobbled it when they had it slowed down to super-slow mode. At full-speed you can see a clear bobble, which prevented him from securing it in-bounds.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^
From the game recap:
I remember when yelling at people from the sideline and/or running onto the field was going to be a penalty. Nope, just on Harbaugh. Tom Allen took timeout specifically to scream at the referees for minutes at a time and instead of getting hit with a call he slid the refereeing in Indiana's favor for the duration. Several calls down the stretch were absurd, including a personal foul on Mo Hurst for tackling the quarterback, the holding call on Cam Cheeseman for something that was neither a hold nor at all relevant, and a pass interference on David Long for getting in the way of Cobbs on an uncatchable back shoulder throw Cobbs was not even looking for. IU also escaped an obvious grounding call when Ramsey threw the ball at absolutely nobody on their final drive while being sacked.
This was an awful, awful game for the refs.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:40 PM ^
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October 16th, 2017 at 5:00 PM ^
Out of curiosity, has there ever been a B1G game where both teams submitted a joint statment on how bad a game was officiated? The B1G is gonna ignore it either way because they fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down, but I feel like this was a chance for both school to be like "Yeah, your officials are shit and you need to fix it."
October 16th, 2017 at 10:09 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 5:43 PM ^
I know his hands were outside of the line backer, but it looked like he was being picked up and pushed back. Not sure how he physically could have done anything other than be picked up and pushed back once the guy was under him.
October 17th, 2017 at 12:24 AM ^
That was my take, too. He was thrown backward into the air. His arms involuntarily wrapped around the LB, but not in a way that would impede his progress in any way. DPJ was getting manhandled. That is not a hold.
October 16th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^
I'll be honest - I was actually upset that Tom Allen did that and was not flagged even though clearly there was no other purpose for that timeout than to heap verbal abuse on the refs. Perhaps I am paranoid, but I am fairly certain that if Harbaugh did that, they would run out of flags to throw at his feet....and hats, for that matter.
October 16th, 2017 at 10:50 PM ^
Harbaugh has been holding back this season while other coaches are going full meltdown... and getting away with it. You're not paranoid.
Allen called the TO for no other purpose than to vent his spleen on the refs. I still think Harbaugh's approach is the wiser. Eventually the film footage will swing the pendulum the other way. Allen's face was as purple as Brian Kelly.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^
there is another coach that wants everything to go his way so he can have instant success and get on to the job he wants. brohm, allen, fleck. if you believe anyone of these coaches are where they want to be you are crazy.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^
They got balls the size of church bells. I guess they overlooked the SIXTEEN penalties that benefited them.
October 16th, 2017 at 9:56 PM ^
October 17th, 2017 at 11:17 AM ^
The PI on Fant is not a legit complaint. Fant did exactly what Hill did. Both were called for PI and had interceptions negated. The refs were consistant in those situations and that is what you want.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:31 PM ^
This is the modern age - chest beating, boasting, and always griping. Everyone is always getting something.
The era of humility and good sportsmanship is now viewed as something only chumps, and the hopelessly naive adhere to.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:31 PM ^
they're probably pretty bitter after losing to us for multiple decades and now losing several close games over the past 9 years. I'm sure I'd be pretty biased in their situation.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:46 PM ^
1968-2017 Michigan is 39 and 1 against them.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:53 PM ^
it's been a brutal series for them and now they've lost like 5 out of 6 in close games. They also lost some close ones to ohio state as well.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^
There was 1 call that I 100% did not understand that game. Allen was past the numbers on the field yelling at the refs before the timeout. If that is Harbaugh, its a flag 100/100 times.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:01 PM ^
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October 16th, 2017 at 4:33 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 4:33 PM ^
I love how they're outraged that they were denied an interception by Fant when all he was doing was holding the receiver's jersey. I take it they're equally outraged by UM losing an interception to a pass interference call when all Hill was doing was holding the receiver's jersey.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:33 PM ^
I believe it is standard protocol for coaches to send video of any calls from the week before to the conference to review. I know I have seen articles about Harbaugh doing it several times last year.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:38 PM ^
You won't hear Harbaugh talk about what he sends into the league because it comes off as "Michigan is whining about the refs again." I am SURE he contacted the league about the rampant OPI that is going on. I'm not sure he has pointed out the hypocrisy of "yelling at the refs" yet as he may save that for a later date.
Harbaugh's reputation will prevent him from getting any real policy changed unfortunately. He needs someone with a pristine reputation to help him - maybe Pat Fitzgerald.
October 16th, 2017 at 10:07 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^
Don't teams do this after any game anyways? just with less noise?
October 16th, 2017 at 4:35 PM ^
They might have noted that we were called for 16 penalties, a school record, but hey, we've only been playing football for 138 years.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:41 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 4:47 PM ^
The PI call was indeed terrible - but it was balanced out by an equally bad PI call when we intercepted earlier.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:49 PM ^
their CB pulling back Crawfords hand on one of the long passes. They made one questionable call (where the CB grabbed their jersey) and missed a bunch of others.
October 16th, 2017 at 11:39 PM ^
Yes! I saw this live, and could not fathom how there was not a flag on that play. He had his arm pinned behind him!