XM - Mt 1822

October 21st, 2022 at 1:02 PM ^

I would never wager for sparty, but given all the past hijinks, taking them with that many points might be smart.   Obviously, I hope we beat them by 123 points.

XM - Mt 1822

October 21st, 2022 at 2:49 PM ^

see TK's post a few down.  last year was an absolute robbery with the 7 reviews all going sparty's way, the worst of them being the critical sack-TD that was ruled correctly on the field and outrageously overturned on review.  2020 we were big favs and sparty had lost to rutgers the week before.  2015 we had the game in the bag with just a punt to seal it and, well, we all know what happened there.  so that's 3 bad/odd/bizarre games in 7 years. 

Vasav

October 21st, 2022 at 4:03 PM ^

agreed - 3 of Harbaugh's 4 losses were to a 10-win Sparty, the fourth was by his worst team at Michigan. One of those 3 was his 2nd worst team. To be fair, one of those was his best team.

There were 4 losses where the teams were close. There were 3 wins where the teams weren't close. The scoreboard reflected the difference in the teams. There's no bad juju. There's only football.

rjc

October 21st, 2022 at 4:25 PM ^

50 years of life experience and at least 40 years of consciously following the series leads me to agree with you.  We're definitely 23 points better than them but that's a lot of points for a late October night game in unpredictable weather against an opponent fueled by hate and desperation.

I'd love to see a good stomping but it's more important to wear the industrial strength knee braces, protect against the inevitable cheap shots, survive and advance.

Double-D

October 21st, 2022 at 5:53 PM ^

Sparty and the points seems smart.

But i think it underestimates how good this Michigan team is combined with the anger and determination Harbaugh and the players have from getting royally screwed last season by the official review ref.

I think we beat them and pour it on. Harbaugh wants to embarrass the Tuck Coming bullshit. 

clarkiefromcanada

October 21st, 2022 at 9:33 PM ^

I think people are underestimating just how angry this Michigan team probably is about the last year. Sure, they won a B1G title and that's not going anywhere but Sparty fans, Mel Tucker, the local/national media and Sparty players spent a lot of time talking over the past 8 months. A lot of time. 

Jim Harbaugh is a vindictive and mean spirited man. He is twitchy and can take offense (note the born on 3rd base comments). He also, clearly, has a very long memory and is very willing to hold a grudge. We can be quite certain he was holding some grudges last week and he will be holding some grudges next week.

This is a very good, very physical and very nasty Michigan football team. One should expect the same kind of intensity Devin Bush provided a few years ago. Teams don't like being disrespected and Harbaugh surely hasn't forgotten even one of the statements from Sparty. 

Expect a violent and high intensity game. Sparty has earned and can expect a beating. A physical beating. 

XM - Mt 1822

October 22nd, 2022 at 7:38 AM ^

clarkie, i agree with all you say except that harbaugh is a 'vinidictive and mean spirited man'.  that is simply not true.  he is certainly hyper-competitive, but he is not those other things.  he's actually a great guy, incredibly generous, loves his family/school/team and has always been that way.  oh yeah, he's also super good the footballs. 

clarkiefromcanada

October 22nd, 2022 at 12:26 PM ^

He does seem like a good dude when you meet him. On the other hand there is a long streak of "what's your deal", years of whatever the hell was going on with Pete Carroll (that whole going for 2 when up by 6 touchdowns?), born on 3rd base kind of stuff. I don't think he's vindictive until you cross him at which point all bets seem to be off.

bronxblue

October 21st, 2022 at 1:14 PM ^

I wouldn't touch 22 at all; this is a stupid series where nobody beats each other by a lot.  Other than 2019 it hasn't had a greater margin than 20 2013-2014 when MSU was really good and UM was butt.

I obviously would like to see UM blow MSU out it's unlikely to happen especially since MSU seems hell-bent on defeats with dignity, which includes blowout scoring to make it look closer.

TK

October 21st, 2022 at 1:23 PM ^

Hoping for a 2019 repeat but recent precedent doesn’t have us covering a big spread. I think we were -21.5 when we lost in 2020. Although that turned out to be just 2 bad teams. And I think it was a similar line in 2016 when we won 32-23. And again, that one was garbage points at the end, but it was as still annoying how much we took our foot off the gas. It might have been smart to ensure nothing crazy happened, but still annoying. 

lurkasaurus31

October 21st, 2022 at 1:28 PM ^

Given historical UM v MSU ATS in recent years, might make more sense to bet the over if it's in the 55-65 range.  We are going to score, probably alot, but it would be very lame if a 42-21 or 45-24 score came in and beat the spread because Mel decided to continue chucking it in the face of certain loss, as he did against Washington.

 

  

uofmchris2

October 21st, 2022 at 1:53 PM ^

There is nothing better than a good old fashioned Emotional Hedge Bet.

MSU +22 all day long! Could be cold, rainy, windy, etc that night. 

GO BLUE!!!

CLord

October 21st, 2022 at 2:16 PM ^

No way we cover that.  MSU does have talent, and they spend 365 days a year emotionally prepping for this game, and the proof is there over the last 10 years.  They will go the route of Indiana AKA the polar opposite to Penn State.  They will stack the box, blitz, and put it all on JJ and hope we burn rushing downs and that JJ throws the ball into LB hands.

There is no safe approach here for them.  They will polarize and go all out, and they will cover.  I will bet them to cover, and be beyond delighted if I lose that bet.

bluewave720

October 21st, 2022 at 3:55 PM ^

I find live-betting for the emotional hedge is the way to do it. 
Unfortunately, I won a lot on this game last year. Didn’t make any bets until after halftime, then started throwing freebies and small stuff on MSU mL. 
I was so fucking mad after the game though because of how it happened, I honestly don’t know if the money helped any on that one. 

NJblue2

October 21st, 2022 at 2:37 PM ^

I don't see us beating them by that much. I think we have the potential to, but this series is just weird. I would love to stomp them out by 50.

Synful

October 21st, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^

For all the weird crap MSU has had going for it for so long they are long overdue for a reckoning on the field. With M being especially focused on them, unless they come out tight this one shouldn't even be close.

Durham Blue

October 21st, 2022 at 3:30 PM ^

I think one Harbaugh Michigan team has covered ATS in six games against MSU -- 2019 in a 44-10 rout.  If you're going to bet Michigan ATS in this game, bet small.  THE most annoying game was the 32-23 victory a few years ago where MSU closed the gap late to cover and piss me right the hell off.