Does Howard Survive This?

Submitted by ldd10 on February 20th, 2022 at 3:06 PM

He's had plenty of issues before keeping his anger in check, but you CAN NOT throw a punch at an opposing coach/player as the frickin' head coach.  Just utter lunacy, never seen it.

Minimum I have to imagine he's suspended for rest of year.

Do we think he gets fired?

ILL_Legel

February 20th, 2022 at 8:18 PM ^

There are reasons he could be fired for sure but I don’t think the image of Michigan sports is one of them.  What is the image you want to hold Michigan sports to?  The sports program probably blew by that standard long ago.  Image is BS anyway.  I actually like the image of our coach has his players backs.

CaliforniaNobody

February 20th, 2022 at 6:42 PM ^

Mark Few got a DUI. He could have killed someone. My cousin died in just that way. He got a 1 game suspension. The Urban saga went on for 7 years. He openly supported and employed abusers. He never received any punishments in his time there, and Zach Smith is a free man. Call me crazy, but I don't think firing even crosses Manuel's mind, nor should it. 

Navy Wolverine

February 20th, 2022 at 6:56 PM ^

Turned off the game before it ended. Didn’t find out about this until I just saw it on the national news. Wow that looks really bad. The wife who knows little about basketball and no idea who Juwan Howard is says, “how does that guy not get fired for that?” Good question.

I Just Blue Myself

February 20th, 2022 at 7:15 PM ^

Hard not seeing him fired over this. The comments regarding Gard are strange to me, especially considering Howard immediately grabbed Gard by the shirt with two hands. Both coaches seem immature in the situation. The Gard/Howard moment isn’t great for either, but also not the craziest thing ever seen between coaches. Just standard heat of the moment stuff.  But then Howard, who is in the back of the situation at this point, moves forward seemingly out of nowhere to slap the Wisconsin assistant, which completely starts the brawl. 

If I’m Manuel, I’m really struggling to find a way not to fire him before the nights over. Howard’s point of view really doesn’t matter to me. This isn’t grade school. 

ILL_Legel

February 20th, 2022 at 8:23 PM ^

This event was definitely good for MGoBlog traffic metrics.  Nothing has gotten me to write so many replies in one day before.  Wasted a few hours on this.  I admit I am totally biased in favor of Juwan and think he should be suspended and remain as coach.  I hope that is the outcome.  Hope you all have a good night.

YardDawgM22

February 20th, 2022 at 8:53 PM ^

Hot take:  maybe this was Juwans way of distracting from the fact that he plays a guy 90% of every game's minutes who can't even do average basketball things that he bent over backwards to get because he was "one of the best in the country", but turned out to be a a giant turd and one of the worst starters in the B1G named Caleb Houston, therein lies the rub?  Let the downvotes flow...

kalamazoo

February 20th, 2022 at 9:04 PM ^

Juwan was not happy about the timeout. In the grand scheme, that is pointless.

Should have already been considering next steps to improve. Then any riling by Wisconsin staff would have been muted as he focused on exiting the arena and getting back with his team.

Punches are bad, but being a sore loser is a long-term coaching issue.

HouseHarbaugh

February 21st, 2022 at 2:16 AM ^

I don't think he should survive this. We should get Beilein back to finish out the remainder of the season, then hire Tom Crean. Let the dynasty commence in full force!

 

WINTER IS COMING

imdwalrus

February 21st, 2022 at 1:24 PM ^

No, he doesn't survive it, and now that we have more video and audio I'm actually even more confident of that.

You can rationalize it away all you want (and dear lord, some of you are trying) but: nothing in that sequence of events justified physical violence. Howard was the one who escalated it past the point of no return with the punch, which was not a proportional response to someone grabbing his arm. He wasn't apologetic, and blaming Wisconsin without taking even a little personal responsibility played disastrously nationally. His actions and the fact he and potentially multiple players will be suspended probably took Michigan from bubble team to firmly out of the tournament. This is now, unfortunately, a pattern of behavior with Howard. And the fact this did happen on national TV matters because as long as Howard is with the team, this will be the moment a lot of people associate with the team.

And look, I've seen people try to handwave away every individual point in my list - but when you put all of that together, I don't think the university has a choice here. Even if Howard is reprimanded severely with, say, a suspension for the rest of the year and anger management training this isn't going away as long as he's here. This already has affected the team and university's image nationally, and while that can be undone it'll require quick, decisive action. Maybe Mary Sue Coleman steps in to play the big bad and save Warde from taking blame, but I don't see Howard remaining employed here.

(Also, I'll be upfront here - I'm probably ignoring any replies to this because this is my opinion and no amount of relitigating it is likely to change my mind when the avalanche of posts in the past day hasn't.)

Jello Biafra

February 21st, 2022 at 3:27 PM ^

Not apologizing and doubling down on the blame is starting to look worse for Howard than the actually punch. Juwan Howard is a leader of young men - he’s not a player anymore. He needed to be the adult and he failed his team, his son and his University.  All of it is very sad to see. I hope he gets the help he needs to grow from this incident. His press conference yesterday gave no indication that he’s taking any steps to improve. What an unfortunate event. I’ll never forget yesterday- it was crushing.