Does Deboer stay at Washington? Could he get some NFL looks?
One thing that worried me about Washington going into last night's game was I think their head coach is one of the best at in game coaching. Last night doesn't really change my opinion on that, he is still a top level coach imo. Washington is a fine program but is it a final destination job in college? Do you think the NFL might take a look? If Jim leaves does Michigan take a hard look at him??
I think he would be on my short list if I had an opening for a head coach in college or the NFL.
January 9th, 2024 at 3:04 PM ^
I would put Jedd Fisch to that list at #3
January 9th, 2024 at 3:51 PM ^
Totally fine with that.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:45 PM ^
I am sure someone will throw money at him. But with Washington moving to the B18, and some deep pockets around Seattle apparently willing to shell out cash for players like Penix, he has a pretty good job. They might need to pay him more than his current tiny salary of only $4 million...
January 9th, 2024 at 1:46 PM ^
Any coach that takes the Washington Huskies to a National Championship is going to get looks and rightfully so.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:46 PM ^
I think his daughter is at UW? He made it clear he isn't going anywhere any time soon other than maybe the off chance that the Seahawks want him in a few years. This is good. Let's keep good coaches in the big ten.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:51 PM ^
Already had a lot of respect for the UW program, but have as much as I possibly could after last night. They fought despite the early deficit. Penix showed unbelievable toughness and leadership. Have to imagine DeBoer is setting the tone there.
January 9th, 2024 at 3:06 PM ^
With 2:00 left in the game, and Penix in major pain, I was seriously wondering why they left him in the game. The guy has an NFL future ahead of him, no need to jeopardize it on an injury when there was no chance of a win at that point. I thought that was a bad coaching decision on DeBoer's part, got to think of the well-being of your players.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:57 PM ^
Brian Kelly's daughter was a student at ND when he left to LSU and left her stranded 😆
January 9th, 2024 at 2:02 PM ^
I can't believe I'm going to say this - South Bend might actually be a better place than Baton Rouge. There's no comparing the quality of education between the two schools.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:22 PM ^
Yeah, but from a pure football perspective, I can see why Kelly left for LSU. The sheer amount of money and resources that LSU and the other top SEC programs pour into football is staggering compared to ND.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:40 PM ^
I'm not sure LSU has more resources than ND. They do have more generous admissions standards though, and are located in a more talent-rich region.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:46 PM ^
Not more resources overall, but more resources that they're willing to devote to football:
January 9th, 2024 at 2:58 PM ^
1. I'm sure his daughter is just fine.
2. Brian Kelly's personality is well known. Of course he's going to leave ND for LSU. I sort of appreciate that he sunk ND to an MSU level program. (Saban)
January 9th, 2024 at 1:59 PM ^
Yeah, the OP's question is one we already know the answer to: beyond the fact he has just starting building the program and will now be in a Top 2 conference, he has a daughter at UW so unless the Seahawks job opens up, he's staying at UW for at least a few years.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:01 PM ^
You know when people reach adulthood it's no longer necessary for them to stay within driving distance of their parents, right?
January 9th, 2024 at 2:51 PM ^
Are you saying bring in college is adulthood?
I didn't feel like an adult for several years even after college.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:48 PM ^
I'm anxious to see what his team looks like next year. That will tell me a lot more about his sustainability. Hope he stays at Washigton.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:51 PM ^
He feels like he would be an upgrade for OSU, frankly.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:55 PM ^
He would 100% be an upgrade over 3rd Base. One thing that struck me during the game is that while Penix Jr. missed a number of open receivers, largely due to having to rush for fear of getting killed by our insane DL), a lot of what Washington was running, both in terms of blocking schemes and route patterns, was fairly complex and had more of an NFL flavor (similar to what we do with our NFL head coach).
January 9th, 2024 at 1:53 PM ^
If Harbaugh leaves, they'd not be doing due diligence if they didn't at least least take a look at Deboar and maybe Lanning before hiring Moore.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:33 PM ^
I think this is right. You run a real search, but it's ok if Moore is the leading candidate.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:36 PM ^
I don't think Lanning is going anywhere. I hope Jedd Fisch gets a look.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:54 PM ^
Since UM has built their titles around a unique "culture" heavy on development, personality, leadership, I don't see any way Moore doesn't get the job. He's proven himself as ready as many of the other coordinators who've gotten the highest level jobs, like Lanning and Smart and Day and Riley. At some point you have to role the dice. There isn't a better candidate out there to keep this Michigan model going. Is it sustainable without larger-than-life Jim Harbaugh? I have my doubts. But Moore has to get the look at this point, or the program will crumble from the inside. And, he's earned it.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:57 PM ^
I have no doubts that Moore is the head coach if Harbaugh leaves
January 9th, 2024 at 1:59 PM ^
I said this in a comment above, but I don't think that you can just anoint Moore is the automatic candidate based off of stepping in as acting HC for three games in which JH was allowed to do every single thing he does as HC other than be at the game. Perhaps Moore will work out. No way of knowing. And I am a big believer that consistency in college football, with the right talent, results in long term success, but I don't know that Moore has to experience to step into this job right off the bat. I think he may need a few more years before he is ready to take that step, but who knows.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:24 PM ^
Why hire a coach you hope can beat OSU when you have a candidate that has beaten them. It’s going to be very difficult NOT to hire Rone.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:35 PM ^
There's really no way of knowing whether any coach that you could possibly hire will work out. Rich Rod looked like an out of this world hire, and the outcome was a smoking crater. (I guess astroids are out of this world).
January 12th, 2024 at 12:30 PM ^
True, who could have predicted Tuck Cum'n?
January 9th, 2024 at 2:44 PM ^
I don't think you anoint him. I think you interview him along with a few other candidates and then evaluate based on some criteria. If he's at the top after that evaluation, you give him the job. That criteria can include the ability to continue the structure and culture that has been successful.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:44 PM ^
It may crumble with him.
At some point you have to go with the best candidate and that is Kalen DeBoer a proven winner at every stop. There are more than one way to skin a cat and DeBoer has created a damn good culture at Washington too.
Daboer took a 4-8 team and went to the CFP title game in two years. Sherrone Moore has coached four games. Moore is a good secondary candidate if DeBoer says no, but you can’t logically chose a Moore over a proven excellent head coach. Not with what is facing Michigan in the upcoming season and beyond.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:54 PM ^
You can't take anyone until you interview them. I think UM can absolutely choose Moore over Deboer depending on the interview. I don't think that should be an ordained outcome. It should depend on many factors that aren't evident until they interview. I agree UM should try hard to interview Deboer in this scenario. I just don't think it's illegitimate if after interviews, Moore is preferred.
January 9th, 2024 at 1:56 PM ^
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January 9th, 2024 at 1:57 PM ^
Deboer might be wise to leave while the iron is hot unless he plays to be in Seattle a few more years. That team was basically Penix throws to some NFL WRs. Does he have any more NFL QBs and NFL WRs coming up behind them? Feels like they're gonna take a TCU level step back next year. Won lots of close games, losing a lot of talent. 8-4
January 9th, 2024 at 2:02 PM ^
Love Deboer , great coach. It's already been noted Michigan will consider him.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:04 PM ^
We'll find out on October 5th - how both Washington and Michigan have "changed" since their meeting on Monday evening.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:16 PM ^
DeBoer has won everywhere he's coached, this isn't a 1 year miracle. He's frankly on an Urban Meyer trajectory, Washington could be his Utah and now he needs to find his Florida.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:23 PM ^
He could likely have Florida if he wants it. Still a mystery to me why that school has been so bad these past 12 years.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:42 PM ^
Utah was a Mountain West school when Meyer was there. Deboer is at a Power 5 (er, 4) school already.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:23 PM ^
UW fans over here already know the step back will be healthy. This was their shot, they took it, they lose so many dudes next year.
I agree with you, they wont suck in any way, but 4 loses seems right.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:20 PM ^
Deboer didn't cover himself in glory last night, in my view. And if Michael Penix had gotten injured during that last series, the world would be all over Michigan for its cruelty this morning. . . and it would have been Deboer's fault, IMO. The game was effectively over.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:44 PM ^
Deboer might be criticized in that scenario, but I don't see why Michigan would be. Injuries happen in football. It wouldn't be our fault if the opponent leaves a gimpy player in the game.
January 9th, 2024 at 3:15 PM ^
I said people would have blamed us, not that it would have been rational.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:47 PM ^
Harbaugh would have done the same. Penix stayed in because he wanted to and needed to. He is going to have to play hurt at the next level. He showed that last night.
DeBoer covered himself in glory by getting Washington to that point. This team was 4-8 two years ago. Amazing turnaround.
He has accomplished more than Oregon has in a decade.
January 9th, 2024 at 3:17 PM ^
Internet tough guys, telling players to be tougher. . . toughest of the tough. Guardians of everybody's manhood.
Or--possibly--most insecure of the armchair insecure.
No, hard man, it's not smart to keep a player worth future multi-millions in a game that's already lost in order to build your calluses. Your takes are often idiotic; this is one of them.
January 9th, 2024 at 3:38 PM ^
I don't doubt that Penix wanted to stay in, but they really should have yanked him. Like when a guy has a concussion.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:20 PM ^
Before proclaiming Deboer a great coach, I want to see what he can do with a different quarterback and without those top receivers. This could be a situation where a good coach inherits great pieces and takes advantage of it (yes I know Penix came to UW because of him, but Penix was great at Indiana even after Deboer left for Fresno State). Also let's see what he can do in a much tougher conference. And Washington did go undefeated this year, but they came very close to losing to a bunch of scrubs like Arizona State, Stanford, and Washington State. They would not have gone undefeated even if they had played in the B1G West.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:46 PM ^
Washington State > Wisconsin.
I'm confident UW would have been undefeated in the B1G West and would have made their SP+ defensive rankings reasonable.
January 9th, 2024 at 5:39 PM ^
I agree but the problem is you in this hypothetical have to pick now not in 2 yrs. So who is your choice? Lanning Fisch and Moore have even less experience. Its good and dandy you want data points but the team would need a HC now. We can find faults with almost everyone out there i.e close wins. Where was Jim Harbaugh in year 2? Certainly not in a NC game with only 14 close wins.
How many great pieces did he inherit again? It was a 4 win team.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:20 PM ^
My sources/birds over here in Seattle say that DeBoar is VERY unhappy that UW is only getting half revenue shares for next 5 years, and he thinks that will be very hard to overcome.
Obvious statement alert, but I'm hearing that IF Jim were to leave, and IF M offered DeBoar...he would sign that asap and leave UW hanging.
But no, I don't think NFL has interest in him...yet.
January 9th, 2024 at 2:21 PM ^
DeBoer is a college guy and I doubt NFL teams are willing to hire college guys without NFL experience and a proven record. Too many flameouts