Guess the check and endorsement deal cleared
You mean the things that are basically legal now? I hope they did clear. Good for him.
Wow. Holier than thou and dumb. It's like you're trying to maximize how unfavorably you can be viewed.
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:12 PM ^
How bout you suck a cock.
SEC teams are using companies as fronts to directly pay players now. 1 million my ass.
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:19 PM ^
Bolivia is beautiful this time of year. They're having a homophobe convention there so you'll fit right in.
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:57 PM ^
NTTAWWT
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:03 PM ^
Well Harbaughler, it was a nice 9 1/2 month run for you...
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:20 PM ^
Username fits, enjoy the ban hammer.
August 3rd, 2021 at 11:43 AM ^
you're such a tough guy ... we're all scared now keyboard warrior
August 3rd, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^
Here's an idea: Maybe Kirby actually knows how to use WRs and doesn't meddle in his OCs play calling by inserting something from 1985 once every 8 downs, thus killing drives.
How can anyone in their right mind think WRs should come here and play for this program right now? After how they (didn't) use DPJ, Nico and Black? Bagmen are just a lazy excuse.
And homophobic slurs are just lazy. All slurs are lazy. You can do better than that and insult Georgia and Kirby Smart.
Tell me you’ve never watched Georgia play without telling us you’ve never watched Georgia play.
So we brought in all young guys to recruit right?
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:03 PM ^
I think they have done well for where we are with our current recruits pulled in.
now we need to see Ws to pull in those others.
winning fixes a lot
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:51 PM ^
I think they have done well for where we are with our current recruits pulled in.
I don't know, maybe. But you see a big NG anywhere in sight?
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:56 PM ^
That I do not. Can’t argue against that …sigh
Don’t worry, Walter bout to pop off for the good guys. ;)
The one that looked like he was headed to Michigan, looks like Alabama might be intercepting that.
Deone Walker
Ugh. Oh yay…. Nick is involved
Why, because they offered?
August 3rd, 2021 at 12:20 PM ^
Yes.
Saban's pitch-
- the guys you practice against everyday are better than the guys you play against every Saturday.
- start for bama and you'll start in the NFL
- would you rather play in the national championship or the St. Petersburg Bowl?
And it works.
August 3rd, 2021 at 12:25 PM ^
Because it's true
The defensive staff is totally new, with the exception of Nua. I'll honest, my thought has always been, let's put these kids in a position to win some games this year, build some relationships and take advantage this off season.
August 3rd, 2021 at 10:18 AM ^
Kind of the position this fan base takes every year. Next year "X" will be taken advantage of, next off season this and that. Unleashing Nua isn't unleashing the expected dividends either. Year seven and deck chairs are being swapped.....
F'n sucks
August 3rd, 2021 at 12:12 PM ^
Bullshit... only two assistants aren't new.
August 3rd, 2021 at 12:47 PM ^
And the HC is still the same, won't quit meddling in the offense and is either on or off his meds. Do you realize Michigan is the ONLY FBS program to not have an upset victory since he was hired? What will it take for you people to realize him coming here didn't work?
Shaun Nua was switched from coaching all of the D Line to coaching only interior D Line. Ryan Osborn was put on coaching exterior D Line/EDGE. Shuffled Nua's place.
August 3rd, 2021 at 12:16 PM ^
"winning fixes a lot"
Agreed, but its a vicious cycle.
Need recruits to win.
Winning fixes a lot, and brings in recruits.
We haven't won, so perhaps recruiting has been less than we'd hoped.
Aren't getting the recruits we want, so perhaps this will impact winning...and recruits see that...and thus the cycle continues.
August 3rd, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^
I don't even know if the "winning brings in recruits" meme is totally true either. Harbaugh was winning before 2020 and what did that get them? They have been recruiting well but not at the Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Clemson, OSU or a few other schools levels.
I think the caveat is not just win and they'll come; but rather beat OSU, win and they might come.
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:53 PM ^
Alternatively, he would have committed and we would have seen comments like, "So we brought in all young guys to recruit, and all we can do is 3-star recruits?!"
To be fair, these aren't mutually exclusive concepts. One can be disappointed that new coaches (hired at least partially with the intent to improve recruiting) aren't able to close on top board candidates and at the same time be disappointed that even when they do close it's only for lowly rated / less talented players.
That being said, let's look at reality. Michigan is a program on the down-swing right now. It's head coach was just given a rather unprecedented pay cut & buyout reduction due to zero expectations being met. Last season could be seen as a worse dumpster fire than Rich Rod's first season. And over 50% of the coaching staff is brand new and likely doesn't have strong established relationships with the recruits.
So put all that together, and quite frankly anyone who expected recruiting to take off like a rocket was just delusional...recruiting stars hasn't even been our biggest problem thus far anyways, so there's not much point to wring hands over it.
If he was our top WR target then that’s a rough one. I kept hearing he was being recruiting as a RB though. Either way, another guy that Michigan seemingly led for vanishes just like that.
Quick side note…Anyone else surprised to hear that the 5* DB who just decommitted from OSU only now just received a scholarship offer from Michigan?
Why would every 5* prospect not receive a scholarship from Michigan? Was the prior coaches and scouting guys that uninterested in fighting for elite talent? I seriously doubt this new offer changes the outlook, but seems like a wasted opportunity.
This is baffling as if the coaching staff (led by Harbaugh) is ADMITTING that they have no shot at the top talent so they will not waste the time to even try. Fucking Sad....wait for the Harbaugh apologists to explain this strategy away, I'll hang up and listen.
Are you still listening? Just curious how long you'll continue to listen if no one is talking.
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:01 PM ^
You mean other than all the guys with Ohio state offers that also have Michigan offers? This doesn’t even make sense
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:07 PM ^
Well, all the Harbaugh apologists have to do is point out that the kid has held a Michigan offer for over two years. He just received his official offer letter, which wasn’t allowed to be sent out until this week.
August 3rd, 2021 at 11:46 AM ^
Does it bother you that you're mad about UM football that you post ignorant stuff like this that is pure fiction?
Lets just say we're descending ....
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:06 PM ^
No no no, he just received his OFFICIAL offer from Michigan. Official offers aren’t allowed to be sent out until August 1st prior to a recruit’s senior year. Michigan verbally offered him back in May of 2019.
Quick side note…Anyone else surprised to hear that the 5* DB who just decommitted from OSU only now just received a scholarship offer from Michigan?
If he (or his coaches/ people) told the M staff that he's 100% OSU bound, why waste your limited recruiting time and energy on him? It's best to move on. If something happened to sour his relationship to OSU, you just open it back up and prioritize him over someone else.
I'd be willing to wager that Alabama, and probably Georgia and LSU, automatically offer every 4 and 5 * recruit in the country and see who calls them back or shows any interest.....seems to work.
They didn't offer Deone Walker until about 2-3 weeks ago. He had a very good showing at a camp. His quickness against other great players was a surprise.
Is there a team that loses more recruits with 100% crystal ball picks than UM?
I had this same thought earlier. I assume there are a number of teams in this category but I only follow Michigan. It does feel like we get more than a fair share of these. Either the "experts" don't really have their finger on the pulse, or something really goes south between the "crystal ball" and the actual commitment. Zero clue which one it is.
We have some homer writers who I am glad to have, but they use their crystal balls to try to generate recruiting hype for Michigan.
August 2nd, 2021 at 10:51 PM ^
That’s really the only explanation as to why we lose so many after dominating crystal ball picks. I don’t know if there has been a football equivalent of the Josh Cristopher spurn in hoops though.
August 2nd, 2021 at 11:09 PM ^
Well the other explanation is, they’re making predictions on the whims of 17 year old kids... not exactly an exact science.
Patton flat out told the coaching staff he was coming before a change of heart in the 11th hour. Not much the crystal ballers can do about that.
The "whims" of these 17 year olds are not nearly as nonsensical as the whims of irrational fans. Add to this that the Michigan homers with crystal ball projections have become much more "active" over the past year, seemingly, in an effort to assist in the recruiting effort. One has to wonder if this is, in fact, being counter-productive. Bash these kids all ones wishes, the thing that will turn them against you the quickest is disingenuousness.
I’m not bashing the kids at all. But they’re 17 year old kids. They change their mind a lot. They’re naturally unpredictable. It’s the nature of the American teen. And you’re asking people to make a living on predicting what someone who can change their mind at the drop of a hat will do.
Bell was leaning Michigan for months. Got a Georgia offer in the middle of June. Took his first visit to Georgia on July 29th. And committed on August 2nd. Things can move fast for these kids and we’re getting upset at guys who made predictions months before the kid had an offer from Georgia, let alone visited the school and committed a couple days later. Patton flat out told the staff he was coming to Michigan. Then he sat down with his family and realized he wanted to be close to them at the last minute. This isn’t experts just making predictions for no reason, there’s actual information behind it. But again, that information can change in an instant when dealing with such a fickle age group.
The reason for more crystal ball activity in general is actually from 247 itself. They recently started requiring their experts to make a certain amount of predictions within a certain time frame. Which is also why they added the confidence meter to the mix. It’s not the experts trying to boost recruiting, it’s 247 trying to generate artificial “content” and get clicks on their site.
t’s 247 trying to generate artificial “content” and get clicks on their site.
Back before all this crystal ball nonsense, Sam Webb would have been following Bell's recruitment just as closely, but unless Bell had specifically told him he was committing to Michigan and Sam could verify it with his Michigan program sources—I.E., his "gut feeling"—the most he would have said is that Michigan was in good shape, was currently the leader, or words to that effect.
The crystal ball horseshit takes on the appearance of an outright prediction about something that is essentially educated guesswork.