Desmond Howard Test Positive for Covid
October 29th, 2020 at 10:00 PM ^
OP's username checks out!
October 29th, 2020 at 10:04 PM ^
WOW A great response by Desmond putting it in perspective. I'm curious though how he was diagnosed like as in mandatory testing?
October 30th, 2020 at 8:50 AM ^
you had to know he would get it..... anything that gets remotely close to desmond, he catches.....
I'll show myself out.....
October 29th, 2020 at 10:08 PM ^
So another person "tests positive", is fine, but must be part of the dreaded second wave. Michigan football and the whole state should be locked down.
October 29th, 2020 at 10:14 PM ^
Do you feel better now that you got that clever take off your chest?
October 29th, 2020 at 10:21 PM ^
Nobody mentioned anything of the sort. Keep tilting at windmills.
October 29th, 2020 at 10:21 PM ^
Ah yeah. Desmond proved it's harmless. Good take. Don't you understand such farcical comments only lessen your own argument that probably most here would otherwise agree with?
It's okay to acknowledge the severity of covid while simultaneously suggesting that football and businesses can go on provided people take common sense precautions like wearing masks and maintaining small social circles with social distancing.
Now if that's too difficult, then sure, we can follow down the path of a Wisconsin and you'll get what you secretly want. Another shut down. Then at least you can blame the winter of your discontents on a woman rather than an abiotic virus. It's a cowardly approach, but perhaps it helps you sleep at night.
October 29th, 2020 at 10:22 PM ^
Only about another thousand people died today from Covid, today, only 19 States have seen hospitalizations increase more than 20% in the last week and only 30 have seen hospitalizations increase 10% or more in the last week. Definitely nothing to see here.
October 30th, 2020 at 6:13 AM ^
We need to slow the testing down or else our numbers will only get worse
October 29th, 2020 at 10:23 PM ^
Screw you for making me login to downvote you. Obviously people who are getting tested daily/weekly as part of their job feel fine because they just got the illness. There are plenty of people who don’t test positive until they are in the hospital.
Herman Cain felt fine when he tested positive, where is he now?
October 29th, 2020 at 10:46 PM ^
Apparently Cain was synthesized into the Twitter Matrix.
October 29th, 2020 at 11:23 PM ^
If you have comorbidities like Cain had, you should take extra precautions like staying inside. However after 8-9 months of this most people are fed up and ready to move on.
October 29th, 2020 at 11:31 PM ^
Young, healthy people come into contact with people that are older, have other health issues, etc. all the time even if those older people are taking precautions. My 90 year old grandpa tested positive last week. Thank God that so far he's doing ok. He'd been taking every precaution he can, but one of the young and healthy caretakers at his home tested positive. Fuck "moving on," I'd like to spend some more time with my grandpa.
October 29th, 2020 at 11:55 PM ^
"Young, healthy people come into contact with people that are older, have other health issues, etc"... these older people, especially with health issues, are at the most risk and should be the focus of the pandemic response. They should not be out and about interacting with society as they did normally pre-pandemic. This broad-brush, one size fits all, approach does not make sense, scientifically or common sense either.
October 30th, 2020 at 12:35 AM ^
My grandpa literally lives in a retirement home 100% of the time right now, literally taking every precaution he can, and he still got it, you dolt.
October 30th, 2020 at 3:45 AM ^
One worker at my grandfather's facility was positive, and it spread like wildfire. My 99 year old grandfather missed his 100th birthday by 11 days because of that.
October 30th, 2020 at 7:17 AM ^
Ugh, so sorry to hear that.
October 30th, 2020 at 8:41 AM ^
"This broad-brush, one size fits all, approach does not make sense, scientifically or common sense either."
Look up irony in the dictionary.
Also, repeat that line to the people ("JUST SEGREGATE THE VULNERABLE!!!") that think a binary sort of the population on this issue makes sense.
October 30th, 2020 at 12:34 AM ^
And that's exactly why everyone---EVERYONE---should be making the simple steps of social distancing, masking up, and hand sanitation extremely high priority. One selfish or careless misstep on my part just might have grave consequences for one of you or one of your loved ones (or for me and my loved ones) so I try to strike the right balance on a daily basis between getting out/living life and practicing what I just preached. It's really not all that difficult.
If we all did our part this country would be in a helluva lot better shape going into the cold/flu season AND all the religious and family holidays.
My prayers for your grandpa, BlockM. I hope he has a speedy recovery and that you and Gramps have many more years with each other.
October 30th, 2020 at 12:40 AM ^
Exactly. I don't spend all day every day cowering in fear, but I do wear a mask in public, avoid large gatherings, and avoid telling people on the internet that this really isn't that bad, and if we'd just stop being scared it would go away.
I don't blame anyone at my grandpa's retirement home for him coming down with it, but hundreds of thousands of cases like his could be avoided if people just did the bare minimum.
October 30th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
One selfish or careless misstep on my part just might have grave consequences for one of you or one of your loved ones ...
How dare you think of someone other than yourself! If we all did that, just where would this country be?
Oh, right ...
October 30th, 2020 at 2:08 AM ^
Everyone is totally fed up and burnt out. Unfortunately, instead of being in a country with a President that really locked down the country for a few weeks and ensured that people wear masks, this non-sense continues. It doesn’t really matter how you feel...the virus is still hear, you can’t will it away, and it is the the attitude of so many people in this Country, which is going to keep COVID here through 2021.
October 29th, 2020 at 11:51 PM ^
Herman Cain may be the most "famous" person who has died of COVID. If not for COVID, not many people would have remembered him. Now he's threatening to be a trivia question answer in 10 years.
Just off the top of my head, all of these more famous people have had COVID, and haven't died:
Tom Hanks, Cam Newton, Prince Charles, Dustin Johnson, Alyssa Milano, The Rock, Donald Trump, his current wife and youngest son, Kanye West, Kevin Hart, Madonna, Pink, Chris Cuomo (supposedly), Brooke Baldwin (likely more legit than her colleague), Lesley Stahl, George Stephanopolous, Idris Elba, Placido Domingo, Jackson Browne, Andrea Bocelli, Rand Paul, Justin Trudeau's wife, Khloe Kardashian, Boris Johnson, Cristiano Renaldo, Neymar, Patrick Ewing, Bobby Bowden, Jim Parsons, Harvey Weinstein (he's more infamous than famous, I suppose), Neil Patrick Harris, Usain Bolt, Bryan Cranston, Mel Gibson, Jack Nicklaus, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Novak Djokovic, James Dolan, the Brazilian President whose name I can't spell,
Yet, the talking point is always Herman Cain. Not any of those folks above.
October 30th, 2020 at 12:37 AM ^
230,000+ people have died. The people you mentioned are rich and get the very best healthcare money can buy. Peddle your bullshit elsewhere.
October 30th, 2020 at 12:45 AM ^
Or .... the doctors and researchers and scientists are doing a continually better job by the day as regards treatment and how to handle this virus.
This is borne out in the stats, how the CFR (Case Fatality Rate) is continually dropping.
Writing it off as "those guys simply have money!" is a gross simplification of the issue that (1) neglects the hard work done by thousands of folk in the past 7 months, and also (2) continues a narrative that our reaction to CoronaVirus should be the same on October 30 as it was in March and April.
October 30th, 2020 at 8:44 AM ^
OT: NittanyFan, don't worry. There's no reason to believe that a Biden administration wouldn't prosecute your holy war. They don't like "those people" any more than the current administration. The few in congress who do seem to like "those people" are statistical outliers for now.
October 30th, 2020 at 2:28 AM ^
You seem to have missed Nick Cordero, Tom Severson, Bruce Williamson, Roy Horn, Jay Johnstone, Ellis Marsalis, Terrence McNally, Maria Mercader, Annie Glenn, Fred the Godson, and many others well known people that have passed away from COVID. But why do the deaths of only famous people seem to matter to you? A life is a life, and too many have passed.
(Herman Caine is notable since he was an African American, Republican Presidential Candidate, it is an election year, and the last place he attended was a super spreader Trump campaign rally in Tulsa...yet not a single person acknowledged him at the Republican Convention.)
October 30th, 2020 at 8:13 AM ^
Obviously people who are getting tested daily/weekly as part of their job feel fine because they just got the illness.
Most people infected with Covid will not have more than mild symptoms. Many will never even know they had it.
At the same time, a minority of the infected have a terrible go of it, and some of them end up dying.
Both of these statements are true. It's a weird virus. More people seem to be asymptomatic than for influenza, but there also are more dying.
In Desmond's case, he has enough of the virus present to test positive but isn't feeling too sick, so that's a good sign for the time being.
October 30th, 2020 at 10:39 AM ^
"some of them"
Yep. Well over a million of "them" so far, and many, many more to come. Yep. Yep. Yep.
October 29th, 2020 at 10:50 PM ^
#3 killer in the US. 225,000 dead. Estimated another half million Americans will die before a vaccine arrives.
But yeah, no big deal.
October 30th, 2020 at 12:02 AM ^
The latest CDC estimates of IFR by age:
0-19 years: 0.00003
20-49 years: 0.0002
50-69 years: 0.005
70+ years: 0.054
Thank you xtramelanin
October 30th, 2020 at 4:16 AM ^
I don’t know where you got your estimates but that is some serious bullshit. 225,000 died since February yet you want us to believe 500,000 more will die by March despite improvements in treatment which had seen a leveling of the death rate.
500,000 total is definitely plausible though.
October 30th, 2020 at 5:18 AM ^
A vaccine will not reach mass circulation by March. It will take until this time next year. And this winter will be deadlier than the ~800/day dying now.
October 30th, 2020 at 8:12 AM ^
I think he meant 500,000 total if you reread his post. The prior surge where death was minimized still included many states with large, well funded hospitals. I don’t believe ICU capacities were reached, which is really the only reason why people would die (if they can’t get an ICU bed). However, with this current rise, it’s in a lot of the poor uneducated states with worse health care systems - I believe ICU is nearly at capacity for Wisconsin and the Dakotas (don’t know about elsewhere). But yes it’s probably true that ditching stupid things like “hydroxychloroquine” for more important things like Remdesivir and respirators probably has helped.
October 29th, 2020 at 11:11 PM ^
Better to lockdown the world, no make that the entire universe. We are sure to defeat the covid then.
October 29th, 2020 at 11:58 PM ^
Nobody’s saying lockdown the world indefinitely. Literally nobody. If assholes like you would just wear masks, we’d still be fighting this but with much better numbers. Now hospitals nationwide are already nearly out of icu rooms and building field hospitals. But, hey, you know better. Read: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.jsonline.com/amp/6058257002
Absent the previous lockdown, we would already have more than a million dead. We’d be approaching 1.5M by Christmas. We’ll for certain have 500K by then. But evidently life is cheap to you.
And, btw, this is how you handle a pandemic:
Germany’s Smart, Simple Formula for Fighting Its Coronavirus Spike
October 30th, 2020 at 12:31 AM ^
I've been in 23 different states since the beginning of summer. Literally from one coast to the other.
UNIVERSALLY, I have seen 80%+ of folks wearing masks. Be it California or South Dakota, New York or Missouri.
We will never get 100% compliance on mask wearing. If that is your goal, you may as well also try to count the grains of sand on a beach. It is literally impossible. We don't even have 100% compliance in society as regards things such as "don't murder one another, or else you will spend your life in jail."
Your narrative of "if only you assholes would wear masks" is, frankly, in my opinion bullshit.
The vast majority of people are playing ball and are complying. I've seen it with my own eyes. Your comment is insulting to all of us who HAVE been sacrificing for the past 8 months and continually hear "not good enough!"
October 30th, 2020 at 12:43 AM ^
Do you want a cookie or a pat on the back or a thank you card or something?
October 30th, 2020 at 12:48 AM ^
Write it off as an anecdote if you want, but I'm sharing what I've seen with my eyes.
A talking point of "people aren't wearing masks enough!" is, IMO, a talking point driven more by (1) politics than (2) empirical observations.
October 30th, 2020 at 12:51 AM ^
It's a talking point driven by record high case counts and soon to be overflowing hospitals. It's political in the same way global warming is: a large number of people have decided that it's better for them if they stick their heads up their own asses about it. The virus doesn't give a shit what party you vote for.
October 30th, 2020 at 1:01 AM ^
As I said ... by my eyes 80%+ of folks are wearing masks. One could look at that 2 ways:
(1) If even more people were wearing masks, then we could be doing better.
(2) Because 80%+ people are wearing masks, we are better off than we could be.
You choose option #1. Fair enough. But I choose option #2. It is not perfection, but it is good. As the saying goes, perfection is the enemy of good enough.
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As for "overflowing hospitals", I will present stats from the State of Wisconsin website, the same link that I have shown multiple times over the course of the last few weeks.
I have been hearing since late September that "Wisconsin's hospitals are about to overflow."
However, per the stats:
The state's ICU bed usage on October 14 was 86.4%.
On October 28 it had increased ......... to 86.5%.
https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/capacity.htm
Also, for the record, Wisconsin's field hospitals have, as of early this week, seen a total of 2 patients.
October 30th, 2020 at 5:59 AM ^
I found these statistics interesting so I did more research.
The total cumulative patients hospitalized for COVID (at any time since March) in Wisconsin as of October 1st was 7,409 people.
That number grew to 11,003 as of yesterday, less than a month later.
One in four of those hospitalized are requiring ICU treatment and there are 187 ICU beds left. To me the math and trend are indicative of a problem if case counts don’t start decreasing soon.
October 30th, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
It takes about 2 months to hit peak spread, so let's check those stats in January thru March.
However, testing and tracing should work better this time than with the initial outbreak. Wearing masks, washing hands, social distancing, etc. are all important and helpful ... but the big difference this go around is rapid testing, contact tracing and self-quarantine. Just what Desmond Howard is doing. That really should limit the spread without having to shutdown the economy again.
October 30th, 2020 at 1:27 AM ^
You really what your record says you are, and we have vastly outpaced every other first world country in terms of infections and deaths, so I must reject your assertion that the vast majority is doing it right. Many are, but there is a sizable and meaningful minority who aren’t. There are many aggravating factors like the unwieldy size of America, bullshit COVID peddlers lke Clay Travis and 10% of the MGoForum, or our abdication of many coherent centralized response, but there is something intrinsically broken in this country that the pandemic has laid bare.
The greatest country in the world is lapping the field in terms of deaths and infections and its citizens are unwelcome in several dozen countries. The coronavirus is hitting everyone across the globe, yes, but we in America would be in a far better spot then our current reality if, yes, most of these assholes would start wearing masks.
October 30th, 2020 at 1:58 AM ^
US mask wearing rates are basically on par with Italy, France, the UK and Canada.
US mask wearing rates are higher than in Germany.
If we're being fair, the conclusion would be that America does NOT have any higher percentage of "assholes" versus our general peer countries.
https://today.yougov.com/topics/international/articles-reports/2020/03/17/personal-measures-taken-avoid-covid-19
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FWIW, those numbers in the link are pretty comparable to my 80% anecdote. To repeat what I said in my anecdote, I fully believe that most Americans ARE playing ball.
The virus is going to spread though. It is what it is. There is a reason that no European, North American or South American countries have brought cases down to zero.
October 30th, 2020 at 8:25 AM ^
I don’t think you can reasonably compare the US to Italy France Germany or UK.
Those countries, with functional governments and educated people that believe in society, more or less contained the outbreak by start of summer - hell the UK even opened clubs and bars in the summer. To go even further, NZ and Taiwan mask rate is 0% bc they actually defeated the virus.
A better comparison would be countries like Brazil, Philippines, Russia, India (I.e., the peers of the US these days) that have also embraced a mask disinformation platform and similarly have no coherent response other than sticking fingers in ears and saying La La I can’t Hear You
October 30th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
Italy, France, Germany and the UK are absolutely our peers. And, FWIW, many of those countries right now have a higher case rate/death rate (this is for the given day, not in aggregate) than the United States.
Which, if their numbers are higher --- it shows that we're not really an outlier. The virus is going to spread, and governmental policy really can't prevent this.
October 30th, 2020 at 10:53 AM ^
*Current government policy can’t stop the spread. When the President says COVID is behind us, yet there are 90,000 single day cases and the VP’s staff is currently quarantining, of course this government policy really can’t help.
October 30th, 2020 at 8:18 AM ^
Good thing we don’t base our policy off 1 guys anecdotes. I have been to Michigan, Illinois, Massachusetts, NH, etc during Covid and there is only 1 place where I’ve seen >50% mask wearing and that’s in Boston.
Even here in Boston, my younger coworkers are starting to talk about having huge house parties or having friends over ... and this is despite people up here generally being well educated and responsible. I can’t imagine what the current situation is like in Michigan or Illinois. I don’t think it’s a question of 100% compliance but rather 90% indoor mask wearing and social distancing which definitely works - we know it does because MA basically had no COVID outbreaks all summer and that’s about what compliance was like here. Now that people have stopped caring as much, we are starting to see a huge spike.
October 30th, 2020 at 9:54 AM ^
If you believe the yougov data in the link I provided --- that's an actual quantitative source that shows the actual % of folk wearing masks in America is closer to my 80% estimate than your 50% estimate.