Christmas Snowmageddon - Winter Storm Elliot Approacheth

Submitted by XM - Mt 1822 on December 21st, 2022 at 10:31 PM

Mates,
A big part of our country is now under the gun for winter storm Elliott.  In Michigan, up and down the state, 1-2' of snow is expected and they are talking about 50 mph winds to accompany the snow.  Plans for Christmas travel are greatly impacted and of course, you better have your house in order, supplies, what to do if/when the power goes out.   

...BLIZZARD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 4 PM THURSDAY TO 7 PM EST SATURDAY... * WHAT...Blizzard conditions expected Friday. Total snow accumulations of 10 to 20 inches. Winds gusting as high as 45 mph. * WHERE...Portions of southwest and west central Michigan. * WHEN...From 4 PM Thursday to 7 PM EST Saturday. * IMPACTS...Travel will be very difficult to impossible. Widespread blowing snow will significantly reduce visibility. The hazardous conditions will mainly impact Friday and Saturday travel. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...While the snow will start by mid afternoon on Thursday, the strong winds will not start until Friday morning. It is then that conditions will become dangerous due to low wind chills, blowing snow, and very low visibilities. Power outages are possible.

Snow should be done by later on Christmas Eve, but it's going to be a donnybrook from tomorrow night until then.  Please be careful, plan ahead, and yeah, you better get your shopping done early tomorrow!  I am told that Santa has already contacted Rudolph to guide his sleigh

The True Meaning of Christmas

Be careful out there,

XM 

 

Blue Texan

December 21st, 2022 at 10:34 PM ^

I don’t miss the winters. I’m what they call a damn yankee. Regular Yankees live up north. Damn Yankees move to the south and stay. 
 

my son is what they call a g&$damn Yankee. He moved to the south and married their daughter. 

huntmich

December 22nd, 2022 at 7:09 AM ^

I tried Texas. I couldn't stand that the only days where I was comfortable outside the sun set at 630. I'd get home from work and have 30 minutes of daylight to do something enjoyable outside before it got dark. And I'd be vitamin d deficient in the summer. F that.

 

I live in Philly now. The winters aren't as bad as Michigan and the summers aren't as bad as Texas. Ya gotta deal with Philly folk, they're a special bread. They're kind, not nice. Unlike in the south, where they're nice, not kind.

 

Cheers.

Booted Blue in PA

December 22nd, 2022 at 10:33 AM ^

 was in Erie for a while, snow fall equals MI, but starts later and ends sooner.... lake effect fun stuff.... now i'm in central western PA...  Really like it, the culture is very similar to rural MI (they just pronounce their vowels differently)  we get a couple feet of snow a year, but its never really on the ground for more than a week or two before a warm enough spell melts it all.   

In retirement we plan to spend Feb, March, April somewhere south... I like 4 seasons, but winter can be limited to a couple months and I'll be fine.

Papabearblue2

December 22nd, 2022 at 9:43 AM ^

I currently live in the south and I'm the opposite. (I know, not texas).

35-40 and raining all winter is way worse than it just dropping below 30 and snowing. It's still shitty, wet, gloomy, and muddy, but you can't fucking do anything all winter. As opposed to where it snows where the air is dryer, it feels warmer a lot of the time, and you can ski/board/snomobile/ice-fish/cross-country/etc.

Then summer hits and its 100+ for months straight, nauseatingly high humidty, and endless amounts of ticks.

 

waittilnextyear

December 21st, 2022 at 10:37 PM ^

This Elliot is a real Jumbo size winter storm.

Got my X-mas commute in before the roads become impassable in WI (we are a winter-storm-day-ahead of youtz guys on the other side of Lake Michigan).

stephenrjking

December 21st, 2022 at 10:38 PM ^

Sounds fun. We had 2+ feet last week, and it was the heavy wet stuff. I'd take the powdery fluff you're getting any day (we're getting about 6" of it) over that. 

It's terrifically beautiful up here. Looking forward to seeing the fresh stuff when we do a quick swoop into Michigan to see family after Christmas. 

Romeo50

December 22nd, 2022 at 8:45 AM ^

Always liked how the locals in Petoskey rarely hit their brakes and just let off the gas in unison like synchronized swimming versus downstate panic. Everyone seemed to learn and adapt on snow and ice to be no big deal up there. If you went in the ditch up there you mostly were a novice teenager a drunk or a downstater/Fudgy.

Commie_High96

December 21st, 2022 at 10:41 PM ^

Mlive just said 2-4 inches for A2, a white xmas, but looking like a yawner for SEMI. You guys on the west side of the state get all the fun.

I will be feeding my tulikivi all weekend.

JMo

December 22nd, 2022 at 4:23 AM ^

Gambling odds have A2 in the 6-10 range with better money to go higher than lower. But who am I to question the wisdom of MLive?  As for me, hundreds of miles to the south I'll be a little bundled up over the weekend, but looks to rebound to upper 60's (fingers crossed lower 70's) by the end of the year. Then maybe a trek back to the mitten.

 

 

 

stephenrjking

December 21st, 2022 at 10:49 PM ^

I didn't enjoy winter when I lived in Ann Arbor, but it wasn't until I moved to northern Minnesota that I realized that the reason for my disdain was that winter in Ann Arbor is generally pitiful. Infrequent snow, regular melts, slush, gunk. 

We got dumped on last week and have had a number of smaller snowfalls since, and it's cold and nowhere close to melting, and it is stunning.

And we'll have a White Christmas this year, yet again.

https://twitter.com/NWSduluth/status/1601239507235270656?s=20&t=IUdxEzRUATBepmJy6Kvh6A

It's unfortunate how few there are in Southern Michigan. Here is the Detroit history from the cool site that the Alaska NWS team cooked up to show White Christmas histories at all US stations (yes, even Florida, which goes about how you would expect). 

stephenrjking

December 21st, 2022 at 11:33 PM ^

A bit, probably, but the closest I could find. It meshes with my memory of Christmases in the 90s and early 00s, though. 2002 was quite memorable to me because I remember significant snowfall on Christmas Eve, talking to my fiance (now wife of 19 years) on the phone and marveling that it was going to be a genuinely white Christmas, and finding myself surprised that I was actually enjoying it. 

Commie_High96

December 22nd, 2022 at 10:30 AM ^

This data is almost certainly from Detroit. Detroit has a micro climate that makes it a bit warmer than Ann Arbor and Oakland counties. Lots of times I drive to court in Detroit in the winter and there is snow in Dexter and none in Detroit. So your thinking is likely true that you had a few more white Xmases than this chart indicates. 

Durham Blue

December 22nd, 2022 at 12:06 AM ^

I don't know if I am glorifying the past with hazy memory, but I recall being a kid growing up in the 1970's and 1980's in the Detroit area and having a white Christmas just about every year.  Two to five feet of snowfall through the winter was typical.  Things started changing in the 1990's to the 40-ish degF temperatures and it was mostly rain and sleet instead of snow.

ShadowStorm33

December 22nd, 2022 at 2:26 AM ^

Reminds me of a storm we were supposed to get in Feb. 2011. They were predicting 8-10 inches of snow, students were buzzing about whether professors were going to cancel class (since U of M never would), etc. It predictably fizzled into like 2 inches or whatever, and that morning this is the message one of my profs sent via CTools (still have it saved in my email):

Subject: snowmageddon = lame

Group: Site

Message:

see you in class

JMo

December 22nd, 2022 at 4:31 AM ^

This is the groundhog day storm in 2011?  It hit other parts of the country pretty bad. My wife and I got stranded in our car, along with hundreds of others as it dumped inches on our city in super short order. We had probably one of our biggest fights ever. (She had to pee, and I didn't have a urinal with me)  She ended up storming off into the blizzard and finding a restaurant 10 minutes walking away. I think we tried to get out of downtown around 3PM that day, we lived about 5 miles south of downtown. We ended up walking into the house around 930PM that night. 

mgobleu

December 22nd, 2022 at 8:09 AM ^

The infamous Groundhog Day Dump. It was significant over here on the west side. I remember busting drifts and pulling out stranded cars for a few hours that morning.

Two of my friends in separate incidents got sued for damaging people’s cars pulling them out of the ditch that weekend (The cracked bumper cover from the tow strap should have been the least of their worries after crushing the whole side of their car in the ditchbank, but what do I know). So now I just smile and wave and let them call a wrecker. 

Soulfire21

December 22nd, 2022 at 9:22 AM ^

It really depends on how quickly the rain transitions to snow. The forecast for actual snow amounts is murky in much of southeast Michigan.

The snow totals aren’t the biggest concern, in my opinion.

The biggest concerns are:

  • A flash freeze of wet roads with plenty of dangerous ice forming (~11pm tonight affecting the Friday morning roads most)
  • Blowing and drifting snow from 50 mph winds / possibly power outages
  • Life-threatening wind chills of up to -25 degrees.