Wendyk5

January 19th, 2022 at 1:39 PM ^

My daughter lives on 14th St. and there's a pizza place a few doors down called Joe's Pizza. I think it may be a NY chain. The slices I've had there have been really good. I'm a Ray's Pizza girl (6th Ave Ray's, which is no longer there), first eating it and loving it in the 80's. The slices at Joe's are similar. I understand what you're saying about staleness. That kind of pizza sits in a tray until someone wants a slice, then it's reheated. I think as long as you're eating it on the day it's made, it's ok, and eating it a few hours after it's made is actually part of the inherent charm and deliciousness of it. Sometimes reheating something adds an extra layer of flavor. But there is a time limit and if you pass it, you're going to get stale pizza. I've had that, too.  

WindyCityBlue

January 19th, 2022 at 2:08 PM ^

Yep, I've been to Joe's (see my post above).  I mildly complained to my NYC friends about the freshness of the NYC slices, and their answer was to take me to Joe's.  But, I showed up and it was really no different - my slice was thrown into the oven for a few minutes and it tasted like you'd expect.  Don't get me wrong, it tasted just fine and it served a purpose. 

I don't think there is any food or cuisine in the world that is better when not fresh, and that includes NYC pizza slices. But that's just me maybe.

WindyCityBlue

January 19th, 2022 at 1:04 PM ^

Like I said, I hear this all the time.  I got excited when my NYC-born friends took me to Joe's.  Nah, same shit, different over-rated pizza slice place in NYC.  Paid way more than a dollar for that. It didn't taste bad, but it tasted just like you expect when you reheat the slice in the oven (i.e. not fresh). 

Let me be clear, I really like NYC style pizza.  I'm just saying that NYC is not the place to get a good slice.

BlueLikeJazz

January 19th, 2022 at 1:13 PM ^

And I'll just say, if you are getting ANY type of food that's been sitting out forever and then reheated, of course it's going to suck. I'll repeat my comment above that you have shitty friends if their idea of NYC pizza is the shite that's sitting in the window congealing. 

Like, if you did that to Chicago style pizza it would be inedible. I can get better pizza at my local grocery store than just about anywhere else I've been outside of Italy. But it's always made fresh to order.

WindyCityBlue

January 19th, 2022 at 1:41 PM ^

Only at MgoBlog can a Harbaugh related post evolve (devolve?) into arguing over pizza style and calling my NYC-born friends shitty.

How about this.  Mr.BlueLikeJazz, can you recommend a place or 2 in NYC to get a good slice.  I will guarantee you I will give it a fair shake, but I'm certain that when I show up they will throw my slice into the oven to reheat it.  But if its fresh and good, I will replace all my shitty NYC friends with you. 

BlueLikeJazz

January 19th, 2022 at 8:52 PM ^

You don’t need to replace your friends. They’re probably fine, and besides that I’m shitty too.

But I’m over here laughing at your notion that all nyc pizza must be ordered by the slice off of trays that have been sitting there for hours. I agree with you that that’s disgusting, and one should never order pizza that way.

So rather than give you specific recs, I’ll just say find any pizza place in Brooklyn (*not* Manhattan) and buy a whole pie. You won’t be disappointed. I can narrow it down and say Williamsburg, Dumbo, Bed-Stuy, and Bushwick are especially good areas.

 

trueblueintexas

January 19th, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^

Over the past week, every time a new Harbaugh post is made, the thought that kept creeping into my head is how Bo would have handled this as AD. He would have called Harbaugh into his office and told him, your a Michigan Man, you're coaching Michigan. Now shut all this NFL crap down and get to work on winning the Big Ten next year. 

It's amazing to me how much the game continues to evolve. With NIL, the future very much could revolve around the school and the NIL programs. At that point, the head coach will have very little leverage in a situation like this and the AD will most likely fire him and bring in someone who 100% wants to be there. 

bronxblue

January 19th, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^

Maybe we should lay off writing fan fiction about how Bo would handle difficult situations for a while.

This same AD and fanbase jerked Harbaugh around last year and wanted him gone; he's entitled to look around to determine his best career options this year, and thinking you can intimidate or browbeat him into making that decision on some other timeline is silly.

Blau

January 19th, 2022 at 11:57 AM ^

Now that we’re at this point in January, Sal’s point is pretty much the current take. If Harbaugh was already in the NFL and deciding between going to another team, whatever. But he’s got student-athletes to think about and the Michigan values that he preaches about also come into play.

 

trueblueintexas

January 19th, 2022 at 11:44 AM ^

Harbaugh is entitled to do what he wants to do. So are the fans. So is the AD. 

The fans and AD did not jerk Harbaugh around. Harbaugh has earned both the criticism and accolades he has received during his tenure at Michigan. There have been plenty of posts and comments outlining both so I will not dive into that. 

I don't care what timeline Harbaugh and Warde are on. I trust Warde will do what he thinks is best for the University of Michigan. I trust Harbaugh will do what is in his best interest and that he loves Michigan and wants the right thing to happen for them. 

My comment about Bo was to show that way of operating doesn't work anymore. The landscape has changed. I think it will continue to change. 

My personal thought is Warde believes Harbaugh is the best coach for Michigan right now. If the NFL thing is going to come up again and again from Harbaugh (not the NFL), then I think Warde will need to make a decision if Harbaugh is the best coach for Michigan long term. At some point, no matter how good, bending over backwards for an employee who always has their eyes set somewhere else isn't good for the team and that is Warde's responsibility. 

burtcomma

January 19th, 2022 at 11:13 AM ^

Nah, head coaches will always have leverage in this type of situation.  In the NFL, where players get paid massive amounts of money (far beyond NIL considerations), head coaches that WIN big (define it as you wish) have lots of leverage in such situations.  Will remain same for college even with changes.  Kids pick schools for more reasons than school’s name and NIL.  They often talk about their relationships with coaches, who are hired & supervised & taught by the head coach.

Perkis-Size Me

January 19th, 2022 at 11:23 AM ^

Can we move past Bo, please? This is no Bo's program anymore. The guy has been dead for over 15 years, so people need to stop thinking about what Bo would want or how Bo would approach a given situation. 

The way I see it, Harbaugh has two reasons for looking at the NFL, and I don't blame him for either one:

1) He wants to stay here, but is using this talk as leverage to get Michigan where it needs to be with NIL and the transfer portal. If those things don't happen, you're asking Harbaugh to try winning titles against the Georgias, Alabamas and OSUs of the world with one hand tied behind his back, and that's not fair to him. If your goal is to win, he's laid out the steps in order for how to do that, and if Michigan won't play ball, then he's got to ask "what the hell am I doing here?" He's a competitive guy. He wants to win. And yes, he loves Michigan. But you can't tell me he doesn't want to win the ultimate prize, and if he foresees no possibility in doing that here, then he's well within his rights to evaluate other options. 

2) He saw how we all wanted him gone last year, and I'm sure that still pisses him off to this day. And I don't blame him for it. He'd have to be sitting there thinking "Ohhh now you all want to come crawling back, huh?" We all raked him over the coals last year, he was given a highly reduced salary and contract. He accepted the situation graciously, but you can't tell me that doesn't piss him off behind closed doors. 

 

Perkis-Size Me

January 19th, 2022 at 1:17 PM ^

Fair, not everyone. That was an over-generalization, but I think my larger point still stands.

There was a sizable enough, very vocal contingent that decided it'd had enough. Can't tell me Harbaugh didn't notice, and you can't tell me it didn't bother him. I know it would've bothered me, so I wouldn't blame him at all for wanting to explore other options.

JMo

January 19th, 2022 at 7:27 PM ^

Yeah, i'm clearly not the one worked up here, just agreeing with the ole boy Don here and his quality take.

And to address the other incorrect "regular" generalization that went alongside your oversized generalization, I don't think that "point stands" either, as you state. At least the second point. The first one, I agree with.  It wasn't a loud majority. It was, a loud, irrational, over-generalizing, minority. And honestly, I don't think think Jim Harbaugh really gives a shit either way. I certainly don't think he's making major life decisions based on the crying whines or whether or not you feel like you "raked him over coals" online. Jim doesn't strike me as "that guy." 

mGrowOld

January 19th, 2022 at 11:48 AM ^

We view the situation exactly the same way.  I mean exactly.

The only other thing I would add is i have to believe that Mel Tucker getting 9 years & 90 Million while Jim worked on a "prove it" deal really bothered him.  If Warde wanted to lock Jim down and keep the NFL at bay his chance might've ended when Mel's deal was announced the same weekend Jim finally spanked OSU and his contract wasnt immediately ammended. 

This report is certainly not great news but without context it's impossible to know if it's anything at all. A short call could be the Bears contacting Jim to gauge his interest (nothing news) or Jim contacting them to let them know he's available (really bad news).  And without knowing which it was I cant get too worked up over it.

Keep watching Vegas.  That's where I think he ends up IF they decide they want to go in a different direction from Bisaccia.

Bluesince89

January 19th, 2022 at 11:56 AM ^

Honestly, who gives a shit? The deification of what by all accounts was an average coach who beat up on a weak Big 10 and rarely won anything of consequence, went 2-8 in the Rose Bowl and otherwise had an abysmal bowl record, is really unwarranted. He was a good coach in the Big 10. That's about it. PR has made him out to be a better coach than he probably was or deserves credit for. Move the hell on. 

UPMichigan

January 19th, 2022 at 11:00 AM ^

On a serious note, if the conversation was indeed brief how productive could the conversation have been? But like everything else, we can pick this apart in detail and be left with, "nobody knows anything."

Perkis-Size Me

January 19th, 2022 at 11:32 AM ^

You could be right, but it could've been like a quick 10-15 minute phone screen and not a formal interview. I don't know how the interviewing process works in the NFL, but there may have been a quick screening from the Bears front office to make sure he was serious about interviewing before they went through the trouble of actually setting an interview up with the GM, owner, etc. I'm sure those guys don't want to have their time wasted if Harbaugh isn't 100% serious.  

That's how the process largely works most anywhere else, but again, maybe the NFL operates differently. 

Blue Middle

January 19th, 2022 at 11:08 AM ^

This is absolute clickbait and NO ONE should give it view/clicks.

It's not news unless the conversation was planned or has the potential to go somewhere.  Otherwise this is just some reporter trying to make hay out of learning that someone in the Bears' organization called and Harbaugh answered (possibly without even knowing who called).

This is representative of today's garbage "news."

ak47

January 19th, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^

Lol at just thinking the Bears are cold calling Harbaugh to say whats up. For this call to happen his reps have to have been talking to reps from the Bears indicating some level of being open to the job and this is an initial conversation that would be the first step to a formal interview. This conversation isn't happening if there isn't some level of interest in the job from Harbaugh, get your head out of the sand.

ak47

January 19th, 2022 at 11:38 AM ^

Lol of course he has reps who work behind the scenes for him. It might be his dad, or his friend, or other non-formal reps but of course he has people working back channels and putting out feelers on his behalf. 

That is just how the business works because the no NFL team is just cold calling someone to see if they are interested and hoping the call doesn't get screened because the name isn't in his contacts or he is pooping.

Sopwith

January 19th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^

In at least one case, he got an assistant coach to make the call to an NFL owner for him. Maybe to maintain plausible deniability if asked "have you reached out to any NFL teams"? I don't know. Maybe it's considered unseemly to call on your own behalf at that level.

Whatever route he used, he was putting the word on the NFL street as far back as early December.

BlueTimesTwo

January 19th, 2022 at 11:10 AM ^

At this point I don't expect to know anything for certain until:

1)  He is formally hired by an NFL team; or

2)  All of the NFL vacancies have been filled.

There is no indication that he is in any hurry to quash any of the rumors, so it is what it is.  Either he will be our coach or he won't.  I guess the one upside is that with each passing day and story I care a little less about the result.

Couzen Rick's

January 19th, 2022 at 11:10 AM ^

Personally speaking, when I was job hunting, I had brief calls with recruiters all the time. Some were to say thanks, but no thanks; others were to just schedule some more time to talk. 

We’ll know when we know.