Breaking: Gov. Whitmer lifts MI stay at home order
Just saw this pop up on Twitter. Be safe everyone. Peace to all as well.
https://twitter.com/midmichigannow/status/1267518156953747457?s=21
Whitmer is seriously Corrupt and is a horrendous person who is flat out Evil. It is my hope that the good people of Michigan vote her out.
You give her too much credit. She's stupid, selfish, and opportunistic.
Relax. We had to do some uncomfortable shit for a few months.
Meanwhile, people no more than 60 years ago went out and died for our country in war.
Scares me how spoiled we have all become.
60 years ago? WTF. Don't Irag and Afghanistan count?
Evil? Don't be foolish.
Oh man our general political tensions, come post-Labor Day especially, for this November 's election is going to be nuts.
Evil? Please, venture out and diversify your news media consumption. This is an insane comment.
Well, there go her hopes of becoming the authoritarian dictator of Michigan. Turns out she was thinking of the wellbeing of the people of the state, and making tough choices with uncertain information. Some might call that......leadership.
She had to give in now. Neither right or left paying any attention to lockdown these days. What's the point trying to act like it's going on when it's obviously not
Ok sheep
Is this decision part of an even deeper super secret plan she has to install herself as dictator?
There is no point anymore. You cannot get through to these people.
These people? Do tell...you mean people with a different perspective? Wow did that become illegal?
Not illegal, but there is a subset of people who don't change their beliefs in response to verifiable facts, and instead choose only partial or misinterpreted facts that support their beliefs. They also don't make any effort to engage diplomatically and consider the opinion of those who disagree, and instead resort to name calling, ad hominem arguments, and specious, unscientific reasoning based on cherry-picked data. In my experience, these people are on both sides of the spectrum, but tend to be over-represented on the modern right. Also, while I'm not a huge fan of the current Democratic Party, a fundamental difference is that the Republican Party actively undermines science and expertise (most dangerously right now, public health experts), while the Democratic Party does not. That's a profound difference, IMO, an incredibly dangerous one, and is one-sided among national leadership.
She shot 18 on 18 holes of golf and doesn't pee or poo.
Ever? Or just during golf?
Might as well. Liberals protesting and rioting has spread the virus 1000x more than working or eating at a restaurant ever could
But dont cry for a lockdown in a few weeks if/when cases spike.
1-2 Liberals coming for you
3-4 Stan better lock his door
Look at a map. Highest rates of spread right now are in the US South, where governors haven't taken COVID seriously.
Literally million different ways to look at things right now. Most importantly though the actual spread isn't main topic anymore either.
Spread of COVID isn't the main topic anymore? Is there a way to get COVID if it doesn't spread? Please advise.
Rioting is an outdoor activity where you generally have some space between people as you avoid the flying objects, tear gas, fires, etc. We also have data such as a Japanese study that indicated the virus is 19 times less likely to spread outside. So, as long as you avoid getting thrown in a packed Jail it should be relatively low risk for a big uptick in spread of Covid.
What a downvote for arguing that you can riot with low risk of spreading the virus? You guys are no fun. Its not like I was supporting rioting. What the hell. I’ll keep digging.
If we break the risk down I think we get something like this:
Rioting is lowest risk due to the conditions noted above
Looting is second lowest risk – you are inside which is bad, but you are generally in a hurry to get some stuff and get out which limits exposure time.
Marching is higher risk – Your outside which is good, but you could be there for a long time which increases your exposure. You also have the issue when the group runs into some type of obstruction, like a line of riot police, and everyone bunches up.
Getting arrested is the highest risk – You could get thrown in some type of indoor holding cell with a bunch of people for a long time (in the case of mass arrest) which is just a recipe to catch Covid.
but contradicting studies hosted here on the blog stated yelling and shouting with spittle flying is one of the easiest paths for transmission and all those yelling and screaming looters are going to spread it to everyone.
I did not say no risk, just lower risk. A night inside a packed bar is probably higher risk then a night on the move outside breaking widows and setting things on fire.
Very, VERY different sitting shoulder-to-shoulder, knee-to-back in a bowl shaped stadium next to the same spittle shouting people for 3.5 hours. Also, all these people are using the same indoor bathrooms.
Outside marching is much safer than sitting in stadiums.
I polled 40 of the rioters on Saturday night in Grand Rapids and 56% of them identified as conservatives.
Thank you looters
Yeah, the cynic in me isn’t getting too excited. As soon as the protests and riots die down and three weeks from now when cases inch up, we’ll see the restrictions come back. Interestingly, I’m sure mass gatherings won’t be cited as the cause.
Think we're past the lockdown again if it gets bad stage. Don't think you'll get people to oblige nor do I think governments want to deal with the huge economic problems likely to stem from another lockdown. Don't think any new stats will alarm anyone now as we've become immune to the numbers.
Be safe out there going forward.
Yeah, I dont see us going back either unless it's a city wide outbreak, and then itll be only that city shutdown.
I highly doubt we would have had those riots if unemployment wasn't in the 20s.
Time to get everyone back to work as quickly as possible.
Can't believe it. You are way out in front of Maine. We have almost no covid deaths comparatively and yet we are in stage two of four and our libtard gov is slow motion on everything. People have had enough. The traffic is back again. But good for you guys.
Get out and start rioting, you'll jump up minimum of two levels over a weekend.
Amazing how grown adults still use the insult "Libtards" and think it's clever.
I just want you to know how ridiculous you appear when you unironically type "libtard." Are you an adult?
It’s amazing though how using the word libtard really opens up the dialogue and helps others consider your point of view.
He was probably TARDy when brains were LIBerally being given out.
At least now when they riot they are not breaking her stay at home order. She just made them legal!
Not in city's that currently have curfews,
Free at last!!!
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Hell yeah, let's play football.
The past weekend wiped out the whole "we need to slowly reopen, small crowds only, let's look at the data when we restart etc" message
Peer reviewed articles are about to be released showing that the deadliest strains have died off and the weaker ones are still around. That is why numbers are going up yet deaths are going down. Kind of like what Ebola did in the 80?s. The deadly strains killed their hosts too fast and ran out of hosts.
it's also interesting, though counter 'everyone gonna die' Australia has a study showing humidity levels are possibly a big factor which COULD lead to seasonal outbreaks like...yep...the flu. NO IT IS NOT THE FLU...but it is a virus, and possibly could become endemic with humidity change. It was a pretty interesting look at it. Just another possible outcome.
Why are people so reticent to actually cite the damn studies they reference in their comments. It’s not that hard and makes you much more credible.
That was assumed and proven months ago (see below). It's LONG been the consensus that until this is potentially eradicated with a vaccine, it would settle into seasonality. The reason it wasn't thought to have much impact this summer is that there are still a lot of people with no prior exposure. It's a new pathogen so a lot of people are still susceptible; whereas the flu typically reaches some level of herd immunity towards the end of the season that also slows transmission as well as schools being out of sessions, etc.
The numbers are going up because we are testing many more people including those with less severe symptoms. We don’t have more real cases, we have more confirmed cases.
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but a new Ebola outbreak was confirmed today in West Congo.
At least Michigan isn't the last state to open up. I've been a big critic of the Gov but she did the right thing. As mentioned in a previous post, with all the rioting going on, she did the right thing. There's so much civil discourse going on. Let the people get back to work.