Bobby Bowden passes at 91

Submitted by Don on August 8th, 2021 at 8:27 AM

Legendary FSU coach Bobby Bowden has passed away at 91, apparently from pancreatic cancer.

I've always disliked FSU, especially after watching them mollywhop us 51-31 in our own stadium, but for some reason I could never muster up a dislike of Bowden himself. If it weren't for some horrible luck in kicking field goals, he probably would have had another NC or two.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31986091/long-florida-state-football-coach-bobby-bowden-dies-91

oriental andrew

August 8th, 2021 at 8:38 AM ^

Unprecedented run at FSU. Peace to his family. 

In other news, Markie Post, actress who played the public defender in Night Court, passed away at age 70 after a 3 year battle with cancer. 

BlueMarrow

August 8th, 2021 at 8:44 AM ^

Say what you want about him, but he loved his school, and he loved his players. They, in turn, played their hearts out for him.

I was lucky/unfortunate enough to be in the Coaches Press Box with the Michigan staff the year they came into town.

We all thought we really had something special with that Michigan team that year. 

They not only steam rolled us, they did it mercilessly. The staff had telescopic mikes in those days. The taunting was torture, as it was followed by execution. They would tell our O line where they were going, and that they they were too slow and fat to stop them. Then they did what they said they would do.

Changed the way I looked at the game for the rest of my life. It was clear that the speed was on another level, and we would be hard pressed to ever field a team deep enough to dominate.

 

 

blueheron

August 8th, 2021 at 10:46 AM ^

"It was clear that the speed was on another level ..."

And, yet, almost thirty years later, there are at least a few people in the Michigan fan base who are more concerned about the size of Wisconsin and Iowa than they are about OSU's overall athletic ability.

There's a Bowden quote buried in here ( https://getd.libs.uga.edu/pdfs/smith_mark_a_200412_phd.pdf ) that I remember:

I know a guy walked into my office one day back in 1976 when I first got here. He was a Florida State graduate and I had known him for years, but I hadn’t seen him in ten years. Well he trained hunting dogs and we got to talking. He started telling me about these hunting dogs. Saying that, “If a dog won’t do what you teach him to do, then teach him to do what he can do.” Say he might not want to go into the water, well teach him to climb a tree. Well, I went that is exactly like football is. If you have got a player and he can’t do this, we’ll figure out what his ability is and then use it. Teach him and develop him so he can do that thing really well.

Don

August 8th, 2021 at 9:00 AM ^

I'm under no illusion that Bowden ran what many of us would consider to be a clean program. FSU didn't come to mean "Free Shoes University" for no reason, and the solicitude the Tallahassee LEOs displayed toward FSU players was well documented years ago.

Regardless, Bowden never struck me as sleazy, which I guess was the result of his folksy "dadgummit" southern charm.

Hotel Putingrad

August 8th, 2021 at 10:42 AM ^

Agreed. Bowden, like Osborne at Nebraska, just always struck me as a great recruiter and coach earnestly focused on building a program from nothing (Burt Reynolds dinner theatre doesn't count.) He wasn't two-faced like Holtz or sleazy like Switzer. The constant failures of the kicking game made the program something of an annual Greek tragedy. But damn, they fielded some of the most impressive rosters in the history of college football. Part of me wishes FSU could make it back to the elite, but I don't think Norvell is the guy to make that happen.

WoodyBlue

August 8th, 2021 at 9:46 AM ^

We were mollywhopped because we lolygagged and they were up to their usual shenanigans and skullduggery.

uminks

August 8th, 2021 at 10:18 AM ^

RIP, Mr. Bowden. I just remember watching all those wide right, wide left games against  For being on the portly side, he lived a long time. I'd take 91, instead of 71 any day!

dragonchild

August 8th, 2021 at 10:37 AM ^

Fine, I’ll be that guy.

Peter Warrick and Laveranues Coles committed felonies and were caught red-handed. Warrick, the star, was suspended for two games (that was the absolute least FSU could get away with, since Warrick was caught on camera and pled guilty) to avoid risking FSU’s shot at the title. Coles was expendable and dismissed from the team. Says everything you need to know about the secret to FSU’s dominance: impunity for superstars, accountability for the mooks.

Let’s not whitewash a dirty legacy.

mackbru

August 8th, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^

Certainly not glad to see anyone die and I feel for his family. But he made a number of racist comments — as of last year, he still called Blacks “coloreds” — and he behaved like someone out “Smokey and the Bear.” A number of his ex-players have said he was racist. Just because someone died doesn’t mean you forget who he was.  The bad with the good.  
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theroot.com/ex-coach-bobby-bowden-is-an-old-school-racist-who-doesn-1791134200/amp

Durham Blue

August 8th, 2021 at 7:32 PM ^

Bowden was a genuinely likeable guy.  One of the things I really liked about him was that win or lose, he always showed respect and gave a tip of the cap to the opposing team in post-game interviews.  It was always one of the first things he talked about.

Class act.