Bert claims MSU being sketchy with injury info

Submitted by M Vader on November 6th, 2022 at 12:46 PM

https://saturdaytradition.com/illinois-football/bret-bielema-throws-shade-at-michigan-state-for-perceived-injury-issues-in-week-10/

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2022/11/illinois-coach-bret-bielema-insinuates-michigan-state-players-faked-injuries.html

He is saying that they faked injuries before the game I guess, so that Illinois was not planning on facing them.  But I thought Bert said that Mel Tucker was a "tremendous coach", sure he would not do such a thing?

Seems like sour grapes, tbh, if I consider the MSU suspensions and how the Illini were favored.

RXwolverine

November 6th, 2022 at 1:16 PM ^

Illinois was too good to be true. I was hoping they were the real deal because i want to watch us beat a team with a pulse and not a bunch of tomato cans. guess they are just a step above tomato can....not sure what that would be

jmblue

November 6th, 2022 at 1:36 PM ^

I watched that game and it did seem suspicious how many MSU defensive players were going down.  

That said, I'm not a big fan of how much tempo has taken over college football.  One of the things I love about this game is the chess match between the offense and defense.  It's a less fair fight when DCs can't get substitutes on the field.

It's not often I praise the NFL way of doing things over college, but pro refs do make it easier to sub players and I like that better.

LeCheezus

November 6th, 2022 at 3:27 PM ^

If the offense subs, then the defense gets a chance to sub and the ref is supposed to hold the snap until they have.  If the offense doesn’t sub then they can go fast.  I don’t really see how that is unfair.  What was unfair was the Purdue/Tiller late subs (which you can’t do anymore) that didn’t give the defense a chance to sub.

Ezekiels Creatures

November 6th, 2022 at 1:59 PM ^

 

He was saying there were injuries to Michigan St. players during drives that were momentum killers for them, then the same injured players would quickly be back in the game.

 

https://twitter.com/IlliniFB/status/1589042681648668674

 

This was an in-game tweet:

 

https://twitter.com/JWerner247/status/1589010665645215747

 

Apparently 2 players were injured 2 times, and came back into the game.

 

https://twitter.com/IlliniCoryk89/status/1589046778292187137

 

b618

November 6th, 2022 at 2:14 PM ^

This is definitely a thing these days, teams faking injury to slow down tempo offenses.  I saw it blatantly happen a bunch to Tennessee this year, for example.

I watched the Illinois/MSU game.  It wasn't as blatant or frequent as what I saw at times against Tennessee, but still some suspicious incidents.

It might be something that needs a rule, but it's hard to figure out what a rule should be.  If you say "a player who stops play with injury has to stay out for at least X many plays or Y amount of game time" means you are incentivizing truly injured players being hurried off the field, which isn't desired.

Maybe we need just a bunch of public-service commercials:  "Don't let football turn into soccer.  Please, only you can prevent this:"

tybert

November 6th, 2022 at 6:58 PM ^

So what, Marv Levy and his 1988 Bills complained about Chuck Knox and his Seahawks doing the same thing in the 1988 playoffs. Even though he won the game but later lost to the up tempo Bengals.

Complaining about gamesmanship is a loser's strategy.

You lost because:

1. Sparty actually had a pulse and a few guys who led the team during perhaps the most difficult week in Mel's tenure (Thorne and X Hend deserve a lot of credit).

2. Play calling was awful. MSU has been good vs. O's the RZ lately (Wisky, UM). Bert was unprepared.

3. Illinois came in way overconfident, figuring this was the usual Sparty tire fire we've seen under John LLLLLLL, Bobby W, and the end of the Dicktonio era.

Can't wait to beat them by 3X the spread in 2 weeks.