Beilein Visited The Harbaugh Submarine
I understand about not wanting to read the FREEP, so read the following one sentence synopsis and a couple choice quotes to get the jist of the article.
Beilein spent a full day in the submarine with Coach Harbaugh during fall practice and came away very impressed by what he called "Harbaugh's Impact".
"I just like the atmosphere, the environment of a practice. I don't pretend to know anything about football, so I don't judge him in any other way. I want to be known as a teacher myself, and that's what I saw when I went to practice."
"What you do is you don't amass talent, you build a team," he said. "That's what everybody's got these roles and if you make everybody feel really important in their role great things can happen.
Have a great day, and forever GO BLUE! Beat The TURTLES!
October 1st, 2015 at 8:34 AM ^
Love JB and JH...best FB/BB combo in the nation.
October 1st, 2015 at 8:39 AM ^
The B1G probably has the top 3 schools with the best FB/BB coaching combinations in the country.
October 1st, 2015 at 8:43 AM ^
Agreed...and it's our rivals. Should be fun.
October 1st, 2015 at 9:01 AM ^
October 1st, 2015 at 9:18 AM ^
agree from a 1 year perspective for Brey - let's see if he can sustain the success.
October 1st, 2015 at 10:51 AM ^
They consistently have decent to good years.
October 1st, 2015 at 2:05 PM ^
15 years isn't sustained success?
October 1st, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^
Brey has reached the Sweet 16 twice in 15 years. Last year aside, he's basically been a slightly richer man's Amaker.
October 1st, 2015 at 9:21 AM ^
Wow, hadn't thought of that but off the top of my head I can't tell who else is up there. Who else would be close?
Closest I could come up with after thinking a minute actually was Wisconsin. Maybe the B1G has the top 4, although Wisconsin is slipping in football and basketball this year.
October 1st, 2015 at 9:25 AM ^
Duke is actually pretty good here.
October 1st, 2015 at 9:41 AM ^
October 1st, 2015 at 9:42 AM ^
IMO, the only ones up for discussion would be those who have a shot at coaching championships in both sports. Duke is out, WI is wait & see with Chryst, and Bo is out next year...so they're out.
By this criteria, I think it's only UM, OH and Sparty.
October 1st, 2015 at 9:50 AM ^
October 1st, 2015 at 10:16 AM ^
Well, he's been in two final fours and a final. That is enough to say he has championship potential regardless of the subjective rating.
EDIT: Plus, Urban is clearly so good that he props up the pair...but Matta meets the criteria on his own.
October 1st, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^
I personally feel that Thad Matta is the most overrated college basketball coach in the nation. That guy seems to get sick talent but always finds ways to flame out. Bo Ryan and John B are the best because of what they get out of their talent.
October 4th, 2015 at 9:07 PM ^
Both of Matta's Final Four teams were LOADED. Not that Beilein's Final Four team wasn't, but Matta only ever goes as far as his talent takes him and typically gets much less out of his teams than he could.
I don't know how many times, when watching one of Matta's teams playing, I've thought to myself, "this team should be much scarier and harder to beat, but they just don't seem to have a handle on how to use their talent most effectively."
He does coach defending the in-bounds pass well, but beyond that he seems fairly clueless.
October 1st, 2015 at 9:55 AM ^
Paul Chryst wouldn't make anyone's list of top coaches yet. Same with Florida, Kentucky and ND.
I think the top group is UM, OSU, MSU plus Duke and UCLA.
A few I'd rank a notch below are Texas (despite the rocky start for Strong), Louisville (scumminess aside) and Arizona (not trying to restart a debate). Then the group including Wisconsin. Oklahoma probably belongs in the conversation too.
October 1st, 2015 at 10:03 AM ^
Very few schools in the country emphasize both sports - its usually one or the other. Purdue for a while had very good basketball and football in the Tiller era. Obviously not championship level in football but you get the idea.
But if you just go through the top 20 of basketball it creates a finite # of programs even eligible to be dual sport schools. And many of those either don't care about football or are mediocre at it (Arizona, NC, Kansas, Indiana, UConn)
Then you have the only football schools that could care less about bball like USC, Miami, Nebraska, PSU, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Texas.
When Meyer was at Florida that was the exception of a non Midwest school that was good at both sports. But it seems to be a Midwest thing for sure.
If UCLA could get its bball program back to near old standards it could be like that but yes right now its all Midwest schools and until this year Louisville of late.
When you look at the geographic distribution - basketball just doesn't matter south of Kentucky excluding Florida.
October 1st, 2015 at 10:43 AM ^
You might want to backpedal on Texas and Nebraska being included in the "football only" schools.
Texas is crazy about basketball. Ever heard of Kevin Durant? DJ Augustin? Lamarcus Aldridge? TJ Ford? Tristian Thompson?
Rick Barnes coached Texas for 17 years, made the tourney 16 times, 5 Sweet Sixteens and 1 final four. And who does Texas hire to replace him? Only the hottest name available at the time: Shaka Smart.
And for Nebraska, well... they have frickin tv's in the bathrooms! That is until they lose a game and get locked out of their new facilities...https://youtu.be/wtyAsWFF0Fw
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12365950/nebraska…
October 1st, 2015 at 10:14 AM ^
Sure you're not giving Matta a little too much credit? They've been underachieving for a couple of years now.
October 1st, 2015 at 10:24 AM ^
Agreed, and it's pretty incredible. UM and it's big two rivals share the best FB/BB coaching tandem in all of collegate sports. That's pretty special and hopefully makes for a fun decade. Too bad we were only able to 50% participate in that grouping for the past several years.
Go JB. Go JH. Go Blue.
October 1st, 2015 at 11:00 AM ^
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October 1st, 2015 at 8:38 AM ^
coaching duo for Michigan: Beilein and Harbaugh. One could easily make the argument that Beilein/Harbaugh is the strongest basketball/football coaching combo in all the land. Masterful at taking what they have and forming them into a team, in the truest sense of the word, as Beilein mentions.
October 1st, 2015 at 8:41 AM ^
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October 1st, 2015 at 8:45 AM ^
Meyer/Matta too.
October 1st, 2015 at 8:59 AM ^
October 1st, 2015 at 9:04 AM ^
Patrino really brings this duo down. He's a good coach, but not a differentiator like Pitino and the other's we've discussed.
October 1st, 2015 at 10:31 AM ^
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October 1st, 2015 at 9:34 AM ^
goblins can't be included as coaches
October 1st, 2015 at 9:34 AM ^
goblins can't be included as coaches
October 1st, 2015 at 10:06 AM ^
I agree Izzo/Dantonio is a good combo results wise. Is it just my maize and blue glasses or is Michigan's duo of Harbaugh and Beilein so much more likeable than those two? Those are guys you can convince yourself to like only if they are the coach of your school and winning.
October 1st, 2015 at 10:18 AM ^
That said, Izzo may be a whiny leprechaun but he is 99.9999% clean and would visit a sick kid at Mott's to wish her well. Dantonio would, behind closed doors, taunt the kid for dying just like Michigan football is (was)
October 1st, 2015 at 10:34 AM ^
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October 1st, 2015 at 10:22 AM ^
It's funny to bring up Harbaugh and Izzo in the same statement since I feel like Izzo almost never gets called out for his sideline petulance, but Harbaugh always gets attention for sideline behavior.
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October 1st, 2015 at 10:19 AM ^
We haven't even reached the Dantonio/Izzo level yet.
How bout we wait til we do?
October 1st, 2015 at 7:56 PM ^
I don't understand this. Harbaugh is more accomplished than Dantonio (BCS bowl win AND a Super Bowl appearance) and Beilein has pretty much matched Izzo stride for stride over the past five years, last year excepted.
October 1st, 2015 at 8:43 AM ^
October 1st, 2015 at 9:20 AM ^
I think the truly great coaches can recognize other great coaches regardless of sport
October 1st, 2015 at 8:50 AM ^
October 1st, 2015 at 8:58 AM ^
So Beilein was Old Fred on the Maize Submarine? Telling.
October 1st, 2015 at 9:05 AM ^
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October 1st, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
I'm not a Baumgardner fan, but this is patently untrue. He is not the biggest UM homer, but he does not "have it out for us." He's just not that good of a writer. That's about it.
October 1st, 2015 at 9:25 AM ^
Favorite Wizards:
Gandalf
Dumbledore
Tim the Enchanter
Merlin
John Beilein
October 1st, 2015 at 6:48 PM ^
Tim the Enchanter is a manky Scots git.