Beilein to Notre Dame?

Submitted by DutchWolverine on March 8th, 2020 at 3:17 PM

My brother lives down in South Bend and texted me last night that the local buzz is an interest in bringing in Beilein. The feeling is that Mike Brey is checked out emotionally and may be ready to move on, or ND may be ready to make a change.  Not sure how credible the rumors are or if there is legit interest. But I could see that being a good fit for both parties. JBs recruiting style would fit with how ND traditionally recruits for basketball. There wouldn’t be the expectations of getting “one and dones” and he’s certainly be given time to build his program. Brey has been there 20 years, and while he has had some moderate success, he certainly hasn’t had anything near what Beilein has produced. So they are obviously way more patient with basketball that football.  Will be interesting to see if anything comes of it. 

allezbleu

March 8th, 2020 at 3:19 PM ^

I don't know anything about the Mike Bray situation and I hate Notre Dame, but yea I agree that in theory ND and Beilein would be a perfect fit.

Bo Harbaugh

March 8th, 2020 at 3:26 PM ^

Good fit, but all depends if he wants to continue coaching.  Will be less stressful and lower expectations than any historical top 5 B1G program (Indiana), isn't competing in the muck that is the SEC, and won't have to go out west to coach in the PAC.

Actually makes a lot of sense if he wants to keep coaching at the collegiate level, at a program that is nationally relevant, but where expectations are not absurd and things are seemingly clean.

A Lot of Milk

March 8th, 2020 at 3:30 PM ^

I love Coach Beilein and I wish nothing but the best for him. So once again, I wouldn't like this move much like his last career choice

The man has major coronary issues and is 67 years old. Regardless of how young he feels or acts, I wish he wouldn't put needless stress of starting a new job on his body

In regards to Notre Dame, I don't see how this would be a good hire. They wasted two decades on a creepy looking man who could never make a final four. Clearly they want to give people time, but that's something Beilein doesn't have. He will have a max of three more years in my opinion, and then you're right back to where you started before. It would feel like a lazy Les Miles or Mack Brown hire. You're giving the illusion of putting effort into hiring a good coach, but there's no logical way it could ever work

tspoon

March 8th, 2020 at 5:02 PM ^

They’re both big boys and neither seems to have a needy personality — I’m hardly a trained sports psychiatrist, but in my view both throw of them a vibe of steady confidence and evidence a healthy amount of self-actualization.

Without any particular data points one way or the other, I would think these are two men who could very easily co-exist in this sort of professional arrangement.

 

snarling wolverine

March 8th, 2020 at 4:26 PM ^

Even if JB wants to be an athletic administrator, which I tend to doubt, we don't need to make him a charity case.  

What message would that send to Juwan, that the coach who preceded him (and recruited some of his current players) is suddenly the guy he has to speak with on NCAA compliance issues?  And now those players can go see Beilein, just like Lloyd Carr's recruits went to see him under RichRod?

TrueBlue2003

March 8th, 2020 at 5:57 PM ^

I agree with all your points on Beilein, but disagree that ND wasted anything with Brey.

Notre Dame hadn't even made the tournament in the 12 years prior to his arrival.  He immediately made the dance his first three years.  They have only been to one final four in school history so failure to get there isn't exactly a waste for that program.

He just went to consecutive Elite Eights a few years ago.  Maybe the time is right to move on now but I can't imagine anyone regretting the Mike Brey era of ND basketball.

jmblue

March 8th, 2020 at 3:32 PM ^

As good a coach as he is, I would be hesitant to hire him at this point.  He's always been a guy who likes to rip things down and then start rebuilding.  Year one is usually a mess, and his programs normally aren't operating at full capacity until year 3-4 . . . and at that point he'll be 70 or 71.

big john lives on 67

March 8th, 2020 at 3:45 PM ^

I am sure ND has an interest in bringing in Beilein.  That is a no-brainer.

The question is whether or not Beilein at 67 wants to be a part of such a massive rebuild after getting hammered during another massive rebuild in the worst state ever. 

The interest is likely wishful thinking and one way only. 

uncle leo

March 8th, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^

Gotta be honest, I have no idea why Mike Brey is so teflon with that program.

He's a very good regular season coach. But when it comes to the post-season, he's terrible.

He has been there for TWENTY years (which I still cannot believe), and he's been to two Elite Eights. Gotta get some new energy in there.

TrueBlue2003

March 8th, 2020 at 7:21 PM ^

He's underwhelming but not terrible.

Per 538's evaluation of coaches in the tournament, he's performed slightly worse than expectations based on the seeds they've had.  Overall he's -0.4 wins compared to expectation in 14 tournaments so basically he's been average / negligibly worse than expectations.

He's on par with Bob Huggins and Scott Drew in that category who are also -0.4.  This was done in 2018 and he hasn't made the tourney since then so Brey's numbers haven't changed, there may be some movement from others.

Full data set: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/jim-boeheim-is-the-new-king-of-march-madness/

Blue Vet

March 8th, 2020 at 4:58 PM ^

I could start a new rumor: Beilein to Northwestern!

Nice fit, lots of patience, blah, blah, blah, yada yada, etc., also so on. Plus, after he took them to the NCAA tourney in year 2 — and not as a quirky one-off like Collins' one-off, they'd put his name the building, or the department, or maybe the whole damn school.

Swazi

March 8th, 2020 at 5:23 PM ^

Brey has been at Notre Dame for 20 years and only has made the Elite Eight twice.

How he's lasted this long is beyond me, unless Notre Dame just values football more.

 

But if I was them and had the chance to get JB, I'd fire Brey immediately after the season.