Bama to attend SMSB camp in Michigan. SEC fans declare victory

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The group who lays claim for all of Bama's success (SEC is awesome, have you seen all of our National Championships?) Is now saying Bama (Read the SEC somehow) is giving Harbaugh a taste of his own medicine.  Never mind it's SMSB which means Saban will get lost in the crowd of other A-list names.  SEC rules and will now teach Harbaugh a lesson on why he shouldn't fight for kids visibility.  

ghostofhoke

May 12th, 2016 at 1:57 AM ^

And better yet, lets land DPJ before we start talking about how stupid and silly Saban is for taking the camp. Because if the kid ends up being wooed and taken in by Bama and the prospect of being a lock for a first round pick, there are a lot of people who are gloating now and going to look really stupid in 9 months. Then when you start yelling about "how the hell could he go there, blah, blah..." The answer will be that he met Saban who asked him if he is interested in winning 2 national titles and being the next Julio Jones, Amari Cooper or Calvin Ridley. You know, having a track record of delivering on promises.



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Wolfman

May 12th, 2016 at 5:35 AM ^

and recall you as being pissed about something. I think a few of your posts were even done without belife. But that happens when you're in that type of mood. But I don't judge just suggest.. What was the  first thing Nick promised you and was it delivered on time? I don't think anyone here is going to look any different based on making a few posts based on feelings, goiod vibes, pointing out how silly both the Bama writer - doing a four paragraph article about cfb claiming victory for their coach making a press release stating he was going to attend an event even though there was no benefit for Bama in doing things other schools might be forced to do.; I don't know how long you've been around the game, but Nick is not one of those known for keeping his word in regard to anything.

Has accomplished a lot at Bama.  But there isn't a school in that league that's ever been associated with winning a more than average number of games for an extended period without  facing NCAA sanctions soon thereafter and that includes those coached by the Bear. Now Fulmer turning Bama in on another charge after Bear was gone to escape penalties of their own was typical NCAA bullshit. They are not a law enforcement agency. As such, they should not be cutting deals. And proving they shouldn't be, they let Fulmer and TN off free with some serious penalties that were going to get worse and the lesser offfensive Bama. with much less severe penalties, especially by SEC standards, got hosed big time.  My guess is Bama is going to piss dirty before all is said and done. The SEC is not like other conferences that force a cooling off period in between bouts of cheating.

We've only got two with histories far above the norm, one in our  state and the other in Colombus. I thought Nick did a good job here, even won a title, beat Fl in the Bowl game, but walked away pissed mumbling, "But there will always be Michigan." I can understand why he likes the SEC. The head of the NCAA hired him at LSU while Chancelllor there. Now that guy is one to watch. Whereever he goes huge amounts on money go missing, huge amounts. But soon after the NC won by LSU, Saban became his boss unofficially.

Saban took a chance in Miami, didn't work out so well, but got a nice gig at Bama where you are guaranteed players. Now the numbers he asks to greyshirt suggest other than  your "honest man" label. In all seriousness, I bet that is the first time he's been called that as a coach. Problem with him being back in the SEC, Emmert is his lackey once again and runs the NCAA for relaxation. You know the story. Jim, surprisingly, knew more about Bama' s geographical location than anyone from Bama, including the two head coaches of their P5 schools. They thought, for some reason they were on sovereign land, free of the U.S. and the laws that bind it. That last assumption on their part might be right, but not the first.

But Saban he doesn't like people walking around down there, especially after learning that's the former QB at UM. Took the head coaching job at the school, after doing far better than he in the pros. Looked into his past a little deeper and found out, "Damn, this guy can coach." Needed a start, took the head job at a small school in S. California and took them all the way to the Championship game for their level. Got an offer from Stanford, and that is what scared Nick. Supposedly he asked his good buddy Emmert, Who the hell  would take a job like that? That program has been in a coma since the Eisenhower Administration, tried a new drug for awhile under the monitoring of  some Doctor Walsh, later to simply be called Doctor of the W. Coast. They  did a good job, not as good as under Harbaugh, but as soon as he took his medical bag and headed for the pros, they kind of turned the football program back into a "Well if you want to, yeah, go ahead. They to be out by 7 is all we ask." Now who the hell would take a job like that?

Along comes this former AA qb at MI and withinga couple of years has them beating USC, who cheats more than you "my good friend," to the point they were 54 point dogs, yet they  beat them." Well i really don't want to go back to cheating. Brings a bad element.  Don't like a coach with that kind of potential in my state. See what u  can do. You know the story there. Nick's boy, fighting with illegal gloves got off to an early lead, but Jim come back to Knock his Red neck ass out. Now you must remember a couple weeks earlier Nick was saying, "Bama doesn't  need satellite camps. Can't help them. This was after Harbaugh tried to convince them all they shouldn't be focused on their program alone. They were the highest paid government employees in their state and they should work for it, especially., according to the transcripts of all your interviews from MSU to Bama, says, "Actually coaching football is a labor of love. If I should get to the point in my career where I'm financially secure, I would probably do it for free,"  "Yeah, seems they tape all state employee interviews, especially when, like I said, they are the highest paid players in the state, and keep getting raising separating the gap even further.. So you were just bullshitting about free, huh?  Yeah, have talked to a lot of others. Don't worry a lot of coaches are like that especially in your league. But Ive been checking and you're set for years as to players. You should probably give just a bit back Nick. Would look good for your public image. You would be helping other kids get into college.'  "No, if it don't help Bama, I ain't doing it."

"Sorry to hear that Nick. I go after everybody hard. That's what I do. Sometimes it takes a few years, but I normally get them. And once I do, they're mine. I really have never been able to  bond with coaches who get into cfb, where the money is good, benerfits are great and if you win big, they treat you like a king. I've known more than a few that tried the NFL, couldn't cut it, went back to college. Don't think they'd do well. Have a good year now. "

I don't think wants an unreasonable advantage. Just give him the number one recruiting class every year, allow me 5 months off and I'm good. Hey Bama agrees to it, so what the hell. Look at what OSU allowed Tressel and Company. Oh, run out of town huh, too bad.

 

 

Wolfman

May 12th, 2016 at 5:43 AM ^

You are an  ignorant cocksucker. What made Saban so great, Name Hoke looks good on you. You make about as much fucking sense. He's a great coach? He's won at two places, both schools in the SEC. He was a little about average at MSU, and as I said, left with his tail between his legs, mumbling something about, "Fuck, there will always be Michigan."

Looks to me his only fuckup was moving out of the SEC where he was first hired by the head of the ncaa who's been carrying his water ever since. You haven't noticed he can't coach if he's not in that league? Fuck send him to the NFL. Nope. Been done, No good. Back to the SEC. He's great again. And everyone else are the ignorant fuckers? You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

ghostofhoke

May 11th, 2016 at 11:38 PM ^

NRK, unfounded arrogance is a terrible look. The idea that we should sit in some pompous fashion and mock the SEC because they're going to attend a camp in Detroit is ridiculous. They now have access to do so, so why wouldn't they. This isn't an "eating crow" moment. I can 100% guarantee you that Saban couldn't give two shits what our fans think as he sleeps comfortably on his pile of national championships. I can also tell you with 100% certainty as a recent resident of Birmingham that the large majority of Bama fans haven't given a second of thought to what Michigan has done in the last 10 years in football. Many of them are intrigued by Harbaugh but to say that they somehow fear him or really care what is going on with our program is complete nonsense. Let's win some damn games, rattle the cages of the top contenders on the field and then we can do some victory dancing. All this proclaiming of some accomplishment when we haven't proven anything yet is an awful look and makes posters look like completely unknowledgeable teenagers. This place for a long time was a place of sophisticated and educated fans with somewhat realistic perspectives. Now it's a bunch of middle school homers who don't have a clue what's going on outside 100 mile radius of southeast Michigan.

Yes, it's exciting what is going on with our program, yes it's exciting to see the effort from this coaching staff and the energy they are bringing. Yes I believe national championships are within our grasp in the very near future, no, I don't think we have any right to be spiking the ball and dancing in the ends one yet. Regardless of how we feel about the SEC they are the undisputed champ until someone knocks them off on a consistent basis. Our win over a depleted Florida team is great but it isn't evidence that we can claim superiority over anything in regards to the SEC stranglehold on college football dominance yet. Win on the field and then act like you've been there before. Don't sit around and gloat when you have nothing to gloat about, it just looks stupid.



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UMgradMSUdad

May 12th, 2016 at 1:47 AM ^

This whole thread is based on SEC fans sowing their ignorance through crowing and gloating about Harbaugh "getting a taste of his own medicine" because Saban is showing up to the SMSB camp. Others have already pointed out the lunancy of this response. Yes, Saban is a great coach, but that certainly doesn't mean he or the SEC fans are above ridicule when they're acting like fools or hypocrits. 

This is what fanbases do.  They make fun of their opponents, especially when the material is so readily supplied. I'll point and laugh anytime an Alabama, OSU, or Sparty fan, player or coach says or does something silly or stupid.  Winning a lot of games doesn't place them in some honored state where they're beyond ridicule or criticism.

Wolfman

May 12th, 2016 at 5:50 AM ^

and also not as intelligent as you lead on, especially if you lived there of your own accord. I am sure you have checked my assertion by now, and can now agree, Saban is a great coach while at Bama. Who among Saban, Dabod, Harbaugh, Meyer and about ten others wouldn't be?

Coaching is when you can and do it everywhere. We got a coach like that. Bama, right now, is making sure the best players in America get their checks on time and like the coaches, get paid for that fucking O.T. No one said a damn thing about anything over ten hours a week. I'm watching MI games only this season. Wake me up when Saban goes to Kansas and begins winning.

NRK

May 12th, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^

Thanks for the honest answer. I understand the point you're making - I've seen that complaint on other threads, but I didn't really read that into this thread.

It is the offseason, and in a particularly quiet time period during the offseason, so there's going to be a lot of threads on less important things. We have a thread about a hish school relay team using a high jump pole. No way that happens, or remains on the front page, during the season (or even nearing the start of the season).

Regardless of that fact, I don't think having some joy at the expense of UM winning the "satellite camps" battle means you automatically are acting like Michigan has won anything on the field. They are not mutually exclusive.

That being said, Harbaugh has also only been here one season. So yes, we all agree Harbaugh can do good things (and likely will), but we can't fast forward, so we're stuck with only having one season. That shouldn't forbid us from what is going on related to Michigan football, including some of the silly off the field stuff that is a "win" - but not an on-the-field win. Yes, we need to keep it in perspective, but I didn't see too much of that being blown out of perspective below.

I think you're probably reading a little too much into people having some fun with a small victory and the SEC looking hypocritical due to their faux moral outrage at the camps when they supported the ban. I'm sure almost all the posters on here will agree that the SEC will simply adapt and that they're not scared of Michigan (they were acting in self-interest, regardless of fear). I also don't think most posters on here assume that Saban is quaking in his boots over coming up here. Most people see the irony in the fact that he was saying camps were useless in an attempt to perserve their southern strategy, but not actually meaning it.

I didn't read every comment, but the vast majority that I read were having some fun with it, not suggesting it suddenly makes us the king of the college football world. Certainly it doesn't, but that doesn't mean we can't have a little smile about it, right?

I Want To Believe

May 12th, 2016 at 4:08 AM ^

My hatred for the SEC began in 2006 when ESPN began the push to use massive propaganda to promote SEC dominance. Every time I turned on college football live or even sports center every other story was about the SEC. The bias became so bad in 2010 that I haven't watched ESPN since and I never will. I can't wait til Saban, and Miles retire and both teams go through a transition. The fans of SEC schools are sometimes worse than buckeye fans, and that's saying something.

griffinm9

May 12th, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^

I'll take that. (Almost) All publicity is good publicity and every time this happens Jim Harbaugh and Michigan get more national exposure. Besides, let Saban spend his time recruiting in Michigan. Michigan isn't exactly a football recruiting hotbed. We spend time in the south; they spend time in the north. This just takes Harbaugh's win and makes it even more of a win.

Larry Appleton

May 12th, 2016 at 1:44 PM ^

Alabama's representative at SMSB will be . . .

BOBBY WILLIAMS.

SEC!  SEC!  SEC!!!!!