RobSk

October 26th, 2015 at 12:01 AM ^

If MSU is a fake, what does that make Michigan? We lost to them at home! And even without insane end of game badness, it was a 2 point game with 10 seconds left at home. Fake? In my opinion, MSU is a damn good team, which makes Michigan's ability to stick with them more impressive. Insulting MSU (as a team) at this point insults Michigan, it seems to me.

    Rob

jmblue

October 25th, 2015 at 2:46 PM ^

 

The point is that Sparty started out the season with a higher rank

 

And I hate this point.  Preseason rankings should have zero effect on the polls by this point in the season.  

You can make a case for MSU over Iowa, but it's not an airtight one - their only really impressive win is over Michigan, and that was due to a crazy fluke.  Iowa's 30-point blowout of Northwestern was probably the best performance either of the two teams have had this season.  There is no good reason for MSU to be four spots ahead of Iowa.   

Gofor2

October 26th, 2015 at 8:05 AM ^

It hasn't beat anyone. It hasn't beat a team that has finished ranked in 5 years. It's best win is against BYU. That is the biggest fraud in the rankings. What a joke. In other news No.1 OSU is now 46-3 with UFM at the helm and has the longest winning streak in America. Uploaded with Imgupr

UMForLife

October 25th, 2015 at 2:25 PM ^

A lot of respect for M and Harbaugh. This is the kind of respect I am used to. Let us finish the season strong and sacrifice some souls along the way to get lucky.

nMkaczor

October 25th, 2015 at 2:30 PM ^

I'm ok with this. Considering that at the beginning of the season I thought we wouldn't make it into the top 25 until November, so this is good. That being said, Memphis, Toledo and Temple are total bubble teams. If any of them loses a single game, they're out. Obviously MSU is overrated. We know what happens when they play a good defense. Ohio State is doing the typical Ohio State thing where they sandbag the first half of the season then start blowing out teams just in time for the Playoff Comittee to notice. I think this was Urban Meyer's plan all along. Keep JT healthy by starting Jones in the first half of the season, then unleash JT just in time to ensure a #1 ranking when the CFP rankings come out. 

lilpenny1316

October 25th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^

I think the only team we would jump in Memphis, if it's a blowout.  Also, if Temple beats ND, they will likely jump us.  ND would probably fall behind us, so I think there's no net gain on that outcome.  

I think the best we could hope for, long term, is to make it to the Top 10 by the week we play PSU.  If OSU beats MSU (more likely with JT finally starting at QB) and we win at PSU, we likely are set up to jump both teams with a win and win the tiebreaker for the B1G title game where hopefully an undefeated Iowa team would be the opponent.

Danwillhor

October 25th, 2015 at 4:19 PM ^

is that we have to hope the assumed osu loss by msu is one of two. osu alone doesn't help us. We need Neb or psu to really not beat themselves like every other msu opponent. Iowa? They don't play anyone in conference but have (mostly) shown well. I think they'd beat the msu we've seen all year but that's not a sure thing. Right now the best 3 of the 4 best teams in the B1G are all in the East. Iowa is currently (not going on record but what they appear to be) 3rd or 4th, IMHO. They deserve their rank on record but they seem very similar to msu in that they haven't wowed me. The beating of NW was solid but I think they're all defense anyway and it's not all that great.

Perkis-Size Me

October 25th, 2015 at 6:24 PM ^

It's going to be tough since Minnesota is a pretty bad team right now. Nebraska beat them up pretty bad, so that should tell you that beating them wouldn't move the needle very much.

The only W's left we could get that would really move the needle are the OSU game (obviously), and if we go into Happy Valley during a white out night game and curb stomp them into oblivion, then I could see us moving up a few spots. Otherwise, I don't see a whole lot of movement for Michigan over the next few weeks even with W's unless a few one loss teams ahead of them start dropping some games.



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UMForLife

October 25th, 2015 at 5:40 PM ^

Alabama is still very stout up front. Their trouble is their QB is not that great, but even he can hit over the top. So, I wouldn't bet on MSU beating Alabama. And Alabama is pretty good in Special Teams. It is too bad we don't have many good teams in B1G. Except for M, OSU, MSU, PSU and IOWA, I don't see any good teams. MSU won M by a lucky play. Let us see what they do against PSU and OSU.

LSAClassOf2000

October 25th, 2015 at 3:13 PM ^

A few people have alluded to it already, but it seems like we're more or less maintaining from here unless there is some chaos among the 14 teams above us. Not saying that we'd just stay at 15, of course, but definitely in that neighborhood if we can go 9-2 into OSU and other teams maintain. 

That, and it has been a nice year for the AAC and MACthus far - that doesn't happen every year.

SharkyRVA

October 25th, 2015 at 4:39 PM ^

Iowa will be ranked ahead of MSU soon enough.  Their toughest remaining game is the last one at Nebraska.  MSU will lose to OSU.

Skunkbearcat

October 25th, 2015 at 5:03 PM ^

Michigan is in a weird spot; as the highest-ranked two-loss team, they probably won't move up much each week, even if they win. There are six one-loss teams ahead of Michigan (Alabama, Stanford, Notre Dame, Florida, Utah and Oklahoma), three one-loss teams behind Michigan (FSU, Duke and Pittsburgh), and four undefeated teams behind Michigan (Memphis, Houston, Toledo and Temple). So there are seven teams that have the potential to jump Michigan, and six teams that Michigan may or may not jump even if those teams lose and Michigan wins. I could see Michigan winning at Minnesota next week and not picking up any spots at all.