Allen Gant hired..

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What does Allen Gant bring to the table as Michigan's newest assistant coach?
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Gentleman Squirrels

February 4th, 2018 at 3:13 PM ^

No need to knock the guy. He's a former player that was hired as an intern or defensive/special teams assistant. He can learn to be a better coach under some very qualified coaches, while also using his own experience to connect with current/future players.

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swan flu

February 4th, 2018 at 3:15 PM ^

Sounds like Gant counts toward the 10 but Roundtree will not.

 

Edit- Per Dr. Mantis Tobogan and his magnum dong, Gant will not count towards the 10.

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CarrIsMyHomeboy

February 4th, 2018 at 3:39 PM ^

I believe GA numbers, like analyst numbers, are fully unregulated by the NCAA -- i.e., they do not count to the staff limit of 10 nor do they count toward some other quota. As such, a program is only limited how many analysts they can afford to have on salary and how many GAs/analysts they can efficiently coordinate/delegate responsibilities to. In that sense, I see the (GAs somewhat, but mostly the) analysts as belonging to some sort of desk job army that is the new frontier in CFB arms races. Now that almost every P5 program has plural palatial facilities and multi-millionaire coaches and several millionaire assistants/coordinators, the ability to fill several dozen cubicles with analysts and off-field coordinators (e.g., recruiting) is one of the few ways the wealthiest programs have to exercise that wealth as a competitive advantage.

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CarrIsMyHomeboy

February 4th, 2018 at 6:12 PM ^

I don't care about the points aspect of the neg, but if you are negging because you recognize that I am wrong while at the same time you have the correct information that I do not, please...you know...share it. 

I shared my best explanation for what I've seen and never had any illusions that I was an expert. So if you know better, teach better. That's a superior habit for the community.

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MGoTakedown

February 4th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^

I'm totally cool with any GA hire who is an alum. Just because a player wasn't great doesn't mean he can't be a great coach. There are many good coaches who were not that good as players. Welcome back, Allen Gant!

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Honk if Ufer M…

February 4th, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^

In the Mlive article the OP linked to in the original thread on the Gant hiring they stated he was coming in a "coaching role" and that the U confirmed it to them. They included Gant's tweet in which he self identified as an assistant coach, as quoted in the headline of the original thread here. Then they updated the article to mention that 247 reported a while ago that he would be hired as an intern. 

It certainly wouldn't make any sense to hire him as a real coach, but then a lot of things haven't made sense, that we've seen and that haven't been made public.

 

 

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Wolverine15

February 4th, 2018 at 3:59 PM ^

At a press conference this week, Bill Belichick was asked what the scouting report on himself (the player at D3 Wesleyan) would have been: "You've got a long way to go. Maybe you should try coaching." There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Gant was not an exceptionally smart football player. Not everyone has the physical gifts to excel at the P5 level. Glad to have him on the team, again.

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Joby

February 5th, 2018 at 8:16 AM ^

To your point, Wolverine15: the most talented and storied players don't tend to be the best coaches. Players who had to maximize their limited talent through learning the game's intricacies do. $1 says he's a head coach somewhere in 2030.

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Joby

February 5th, 2018 at 8:16 AM ^

To your point, Wolverine15: the most talented and storied players don't tend to be the best coaches. Players who had to maximize their limited talent through learning the game's intricacies do. $1 says he's a head coach somewhere in 2030.

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goblue16

February 4th, 2018 at 4:29 PM ^

I’m so lost with all these hires I don’t even know who coaches what anymore. What is that like our 6th hire this offseason? Although I will give harbaugh credit he’s realized there’s a problem and he’s doing his best to fix it

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Mr Miggle

February 4th, 2018 at 4:32 PM ^

It's probably a pretty good way to get started in coaching. The next step might be to become a GA, where he would actually get to coach players on the field.

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ThadMattasagoblin

February 4th, 2018 at 4:34 PM ^

Im happy for Allen Gant but he has no experience whatsoever and we dont need more defensive coaches. We need a wr coach. Hopefully harbaugh proves us wrong but it seems like hes lost his mind.

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ndekett

February 4th, 2018 at 5:38 PM ^

Well I'm glad things got cleared up for me. I saw the hire on Twitter along with Gant's Twitter bio. I thought about posting, but couldn't get any info anywhere on the interwebs to supplement the news. now I see why

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uminks

February 4th, 2018 at 7:47 PM ^

Harbaugh see's potential in Gant as a coach and recruiter. Why not give him a chance as an intern. I hope Allen can start a successful coaching career.

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Steve in PA

February 5th, 2018 at 9:40 AM ^

I have read that one difference is that an analyst cannot work directly with players but a GA can. What about video presentations? Could an analyst do a video breakdown for a particular player or group then record a presentation and stay within the rules? Personalized instruction videos that could be reinforced by those allowed player contact?

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