December 16th, 2020 at 8:39 AM ^
Like Hoke, the problem has not been getting recruits; it has been developing them.
I see no need to get excited until we see him play well against quality opponents.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:44 AM ^
You are just a bundle of joy.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:47 AM ^
Hey, if we are celebrating success based on pre-season potential and hype, Harbaugh would have a lifetime contract by now and Milton would be a Heisman candidate.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^
I bet JJ would be super stoked to sign his LOI, stumble upon this blog and see how "excited" some of the fan base is for him to come to AA. Get a grip dude.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:59 AM ^
It's not an indictment of the players coming and their talent and potential, but the coaching staff, plain and simple. I think the play of Michigan QBs on TV has been more damning than anything on this blog.
December 16th, 2020 at 11:12 AM ^
Not sure why you are getting negged for this, because you aren't wrong.
December 16th, 2020 at 11:14 AM ^
Double post.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:00 AM ^
The media overreacts every year it's up to you to decide what to believe. If you fall for the trap of believing a QB with no starts was going to win the heisman because Detroit news has a click bait article about it, that falls on you bud.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:04 AM ^
I stopped believing the pre-season hype machine a long time ago. I'm just saying let's see results. Shea Patterson was a 5-star savior too, I didn't buy it, got called a "bundle of joy," and well...
December 16th, 2020 at 10:28 AM ^
So what was your alt screen name since you’ve been here a week?
December 16th, 2020 at 8:52 AM ^
I think the amount of players Harbaugh has put in the NFL compared to Hoke says differently
Michigan fans need to check themselves. If you expect elite players coaches and results then maybe expect better out of yourself and what you project on the Michigan community.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^
Those five 6th rounders last year are mighty impressive. We beat out Alabama!
If Harbaugh was getting paid $4 million, then I would expect Lloyd Carr type success, minus the national championship, bowl game wins, and B10 championships.
Since he's making $8 million, or elite coach money, it is totally acceptable to expect elite players coaches and results. It comes with the territory of making elite coach money.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:56 AM ^
Don't worry, he's not likely to be making that much money next year. So you can lower your expectations.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:15 AM ^
I lowered my expectations for Harbaugh already after the 2019 season, but expectations for any program that recruits like Michigan and pays a coach and assistants top $ remain high.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:29 AM ^
Wasn't 2019 the season where we fired Pep (which fans wanted), who had shown offensive improvement year over year, and replaced him with a guy that Saban let go, that had never called plays before ? And then Patterson immediately regressed?
And then the same fans who wanted Pep gone and were praising Gattis as the 2nd coming before he called a single collegiate play, couldn't decide and still can't decide if our offensive struggles were due to Gattis' learning curve or because obviously HARBAUGH IS MEDDLING IN THE OFFENSE OMG!!!11
Yeah, forgive me if I think the evidence says that our fanbase is a bunch of fucking idiots. And you all bitch and moan on this blog so goddamn much, just stfu already.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:42 AM ^
Sorry, I'm not one of those fans that blame the coordinators to excuse the head coach.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:16 AM ^
So because you're paying Coach Harbaugh more than the average coach makes, you expect him to deliver better results to you.
Oh, wait...
December 16th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
Thats great, I expect it to. My point is you don't have to take a dump on an exciting moment about a great recruit coming to play here.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^
Perhaps it's better for grown adults to treat an 18-year old like an 18-year old, rather than piling on the pressure of being a future savior before he even practices, which even a previously successful coach like Harbaugh, couldn't handle.
I hope he's successful, but I'm not anointing anyone a savior. When Harbaugh was hired, I said good, but I wasn't pre-planning celebrations for national titles and beating OSU.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:58 AM ^
I understand fans caring so much about player salaries in a salary cap sport. But why the hell do people care so much about how much is paid to the coaches? Are these results really more tolerable if he is paid half as much money? Sorry. That’s really dumb.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:03 AM ^
Because for the same money, other coaches are winning titles. That's like saying I don't get why fans are so mad that Michigan paid for a Porsche and were delivered a Ford Focus instead.
I can assure you that Michigan did not pay Harbaugh $8 mill a year to finish 3rd in the Big 10 East most years. If that was the goal, they could have found many coaches who could do it for $4 million or less.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:21 AM ^
Its actually nothing like that. It would be more like buying a Porsche and expecting it beat every other Porsche on the road without factoring anything else that might affect a race.
Are so many other highly paid coaches winning championships? because its more like 3 maybe 4.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:27 AM ^
Umm no. Every coach is not hauling $8 million a year and Harbaugh is getting paid as much as coaches that won championships, when he has never made the playoffs, let alone winning the Big Ten Championship, or even the Big Ten East.
As stated, it's like paying for a Porsche and getting a Ford Focus. Harbaugh, like the Focus, cannot even compete with the coaches in the top tier he's paid in, or even many coaches below his pay grade.
December 16th, 2020 at 11:11 AM ^
Ok, can we stop with this nonsense? JH hasn't "put" anyone in the nfl. The players hard work and talent did that.
what should also say something about JH is all that talent that is in the nfl and our offense has been garbage.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:57 AM ^
I agree with the lack of development of both coaches with their respective players, but I find it "funny" that Harbaugh did pretty good with Hoke's recruits in 2016.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:03 AM ^
I've watched this kid play a lot. I think this will go the reverse of what you're thinking even though he may be a Shea Patterson type of player in terms of his development here and that he may not advance that much or be a star in the NFL... his style is much more Johnny Manziel very elusive very dangerous. I think his floor is high enough he'll come in and compete right away. his work ethic will put him in position to be a very effective spread quarterback by the end of year two. I'm not saying he's going to win a National Title but I could easily expect him to be the kind of guy to lead us to ten win Seasons or better.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:05 AM ^
Hopefully. I'm not down on the player, just skeptical of the coaching staff. I think this coaching staff would botch a Tom Brady if they had one.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:20 AM ^
He's got the improvisation gene in him. He can make a broken play into big play. From what i've seen so far that is also a bit of a weakness of his. He sometimes throws off foot without needing to. If he had an arm like Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes it wouldn't be an issue. But I imagine a few missed easy balls early on. Hope the staff can help him hone in on this skill. We'll see..
But I agree, Manziel/Mayfield esque in their free styling type of play.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
I think X's and O's was Hoke's problem. Not development. Look at the number of Hoke era guys playing in the league right now
December 16th, 2020 at 9:30 AM ^
The offensive coaching staff was Hoke's problem. Everything else was mostly fine if not great.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:35 AM ^
I would say Harbaugh's NFL players have been playing excellent football.
DPJ, Ruiz, Uche, Winovich, Onwenu, Gary, Peppers, Bush
All playing significant roles for their teams.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:53 AM ^
Odd then how many players Hoke sent to the NFL
https://www.espn.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/108333/looking-back-at-hokes-recruiting-classes
December 16th, 2020 at 9:59 AM ^
Pretty simple life advice I am going to give you here. Spend your time doing something that you can get excited about. In the mean time change “get excited” to “post here” so the rest of us enjoy our fandom a little more. K thx.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:14 AM ^
And here's simple life advice for you: Don't count your eggs before they hatch.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:29 AM ^
Jesus you're a cunt
Ban this guy
December 16th, 2020 at 8:39 AM ^
A slight sigh of relief now that he officially signed.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:40 AM ^
Our Savior!
December 16th, 2020 at 8:40 AM ^
He’ll come in and immediately be in competition for the starting job.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:45 AM ^
Can’t wait to see what Campbell can do with him.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:45 AM ^
Awesome signing!
Now let’s hope Michigan gets a coach that can maximize his talents.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:46 AM ^
Yay!! Welcome - finally - to Ann Arbor, JJ! Whoever you end up playing for, I hope he does you right...
December 16th, 2020 at 8:47 AM ^
What may be lost in the fact that our program is having a rough year - his signing could be the turning point! I love his leadership. Let’s hope he is the next great Michigan QB.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:50 AM ^
McCarthy, Edwards, Worthy, Harbaugh
”whole lotta touchdowns!”
Go Blue!
December 16th, 2020 at 8:52 AM ^
Worthy retweeting Bamas signing day posts.
December 16th, 2020 at 8:58 AM ^
Yeah, he gone. It’s fucking annoying and I’m ready for it to end, but Bama gets who Bama wants.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:01 AM ^
Except for our guy Dax Hill!
December 16th, 2020 at 9:07 AM ^
Poor damn Dax Hill... His freshman year was largely a waste behind less athletically gifted players (though, in fairness, they were FAR more experienced). His Sophomore year was wasted without a position coach to teach him anything. His last year here will likely be under an entirely new defensive scheme that will take 2-3 years to learn and understand - hopefully he'll be fully enabled, anyway.
December 16th, 2020 at 10:43 AM ^
ooooooo, one exception to the overall rule, impressive, really.
December 16th, 2020 at 9:05 AM ^
McCarthy, Edwards, Anthony, Harbaugh
”whole lotta touchdowns!”
Go Blue!