247 Sports: Jim Harbaug's recruiting success
"Michigan has signed 35 four-star or five-star prospects in those two years under Harbaugh, tied for second-most in the nation with Ohio State and behind only Alabama (38), after signing 51 the previous five years (No. 12 in the country), as shown in the charts above. The class the Wolverines just signed this year featured both quantity (30 commits) and quality (21 four-star or five-star prospects), with 70% of the signees being at least four-star prospects – the best mark put up by Michigan since reliable recruiting data became available in 2002. . . . "
"What has also changed is where that blue-chip out-of-state talent is coming from . . . .Michigan has signed five such prospects from New Jersey over the last two years, including five-star defensive tackle Rashan Gary and the most in the country, and more even than Rutgers (three). That includes three apiece from California and Florida, and more from Indiana and Colorado (two apiece) than from Ohio (one)."
There are graphs and maps and such in the article, if you care to click.
Read the linked story... Harbaugh is recruiting better than Hoke, and differently. Aside from that, you don't win big games without good players. Good coaching can only take you so far - without some talent on the field, you will continuously lose close games.
Feel free to say stoopid things like "recruiting is meaningless". But also say it when defending MSU's lack of talent and subsequent losing record. After all, recruiting is meaningless and therefore had nothing to do with MSU's 3-9 record last year.
(BTW, since recruiting is meaningless, I guess its fair to expect Illinois to win 8 games this year because they have a Super Bowl winning coach in Lovey Smith...)
Uhhhhh... Lovie Smith... Super Bowl winning coach?
Lovie lost the Super Bowl as an assistant and as a head coach.
That said, I can still love a coach who lost a Super Bowl, but only if it was his older brother who beat him.
I was a Bears fan at the time (don't really watch the NFL anymore) and it was a miracle that he made it to that Super Bowl. I'm still not sure if it was really good coaching (on defense) or pure luck.
You know the old saying, "defense and a record breaking return man, win conference championships." Wasn't that the year that Grossman got injured and Orton led the team to the playoffs, only to be benched for Grossman in the playoffs?
Did you also correct Bluto when he said the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? I was on a roll, man!!
Talent matters for sure. But developing talent and putting your players in a position to succeed is more important. Prior to this last season, Dantonio arguably did that better than anyone else.
is better than Patterson and Whittingham. Peterson is proving at Washington that what he did at Boise wasn't just being a big fish in a small pond.
I'm sure Mork would be happy to show Patterson and Whittingham MSU's college football playoff appearance, 3 conference titles, a Rose Bowl win and a Cotton Bowl win.
If recruiting is meaningless, boy should Meyer be embarrassed for literally doing everything except nobbing off 17 old kids. Well it has'nt been proven.
agreed 110%
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thrashed in the 1st meeting vs the arch rival
choked away a victory last year .... I know, I know, the spot ....blah, blah , blah ...should never have been in that scenario after having a large lead
UM can be great .... having said that, gloating on 2nd fiddle to osu is sad ... they are far and away much better perceived than UM right now .... the only way to undo that is win the damn game!
GO BLUE FROM GOD'S COUNTRY!
Signature wins are much more likely to occur AFTER landing better recruits. Seems simple, right?
MSU would disagree. I know they're a flaming heap of dogshit right now, but they beat arguably the greatest OSU team ever assembled on the road with a backup QB, and they had nowhere even close to the talent level/recruiting stars that OSU had.
I don't disagree that better recruiting helps. But it's hardly a rule. Developing your players and putting them in a position to succeed is, in my opinion, far more important. Something the previous regime here could never seem to figure out.
Are you a MSU troll? You sure do sound like it!
MSU's run is definitely an exception to the rule and my head will explode if I have to try to convince you that teams are more likely to succeed with better talent.
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The law of averages caught up to them.
would certainly agree with your last sentence.
I agree 100% with all of this. I don't understand people who talk about pressure to win or talk about what happens if he doesnt beat OSU. If Harbaugh can't do it than we are just shit out of luck because we arent getting anyone better, any talk about what he needs to do is pointless. And in my mind he is 1-1 against Urbz, that was not a 1st down.
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We found the missing "h." Yay!!!
Sparty is not a big game.
Dude, it's BARELY 6 months into the recruiting year. Give it some time - most of the really good players wait it out until Dec-Jan before committing. Lighten up, already...
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The size of the class will be down, but the quality of players will be juuuuust fine... it's extremely early to be concerned about recruiting updates - not just for commitments, but for the scouting services to shuffle their player rankings based on camp evals, senior year tape, and offers/interest from major programs. Don't believe me - see Alabama's #51 ranked class. Something tells me they won't end up there. Guaranteed we land a few impact players that aren't widely considered UM leans right now by the recruiting services, and we'll lose a commit or 2 along the way too. Happens every cycle.