2023-02-11 *[GAME THREAD]* NCAAB - Indiana at Michigan + NCAAH - Michigan vs. MSU - Stream
Let's get this party started!
February 11th, 2023 at 8:17 PM ^
What a total choke job. This team is such a disappointment.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:17 PM ^
Patrick Ewing 2.0
February 11th, 2023 at 8:19 PM ^
Kevin Ollie. Howard rode coach B's system for a couple years like Ollie with Calhoun's.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:17 PM ^
That was the season in a nutshell. Ouch
February 11th, 2023 at 8:17 PM ^
Tarris Reed should have been in the last few minutes instead of Williams. That was the key to the end of the game for them
February 11th, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^
No points in the final 5 minutes is bad enough. But the management of that final few possessions was even worse. I know this team doesn’t run the break much if at all, but how you don’t instinctively push the tempo when the IU guard drives, misses and falls down is beyond me. Then you call a TO and draw up a complete nonsense play. Frustrating, as closing games out continues to be their Achilles heel!
February 11th, 2023 at 8:23 PM ^
dug is not a good point guard. he better be next year.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:24 PM ^
He better not be our point guard next year. He can't score.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:27 PM ^
he is the only hope. i hope you really don't think llewelyn is the answer.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:30 PM ^
Portal?
February 11th, 2023 at 8:27 PM ^
How are you even mentioning Dug’s name when Howard draws up that shit and Williams was about -100 yet again?
February 11th, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^
You can't win if you can't score. No points for Michigan in the last 5+ min of the game. It's been a sh!tty season. That last possession sucked, why wasn't Hunter involved-who knows.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^
SO many chances all season long, SO little to show for it.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:19 PM ^
0 points scored in the final 5.5 minutes with a cherry on-top play drawn up out of the huddle. Thank you Juwan!
February 11th, 2023 at 8:19 PM ^
The late game execution and substitution patterns continue to baffle. The plan seemed to be to force feed Dickinson at the end, but then they played 3 non-shooters around him, and they didn't have Reed who could at least threaten the middle on the double. You absolutely have to play Baker or Reed just given what your plan was at the end. But that's about what I've come to expect under this staff. No real solutions at the end of games.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
I'm sure Williams is a good teammate and works as an energy guy but he absolutely shouldn't be playing closing minutes anymore.
And I know people are going to rag on Howard for that last possession and he's had issues over his tenure with playcalls but I can't believe that was executed the way they drew it up. Bufkin ran out of a good shot and then whistled it back to Jett, who almost seemed a bit surprised.
Anyway, it's NIT season and so be it.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
If you’re going to run a game winner going toward the basket you better be sure that your player can finish through contact, because you are not getting a foul call unless he is murdered. Are you thinking it was supposed to be a Kobe pull up?
I think you’re better off going down into the post (you have time for that with 8 on the clock) and having Hunter bang through the contact. But it doesn’t matter— the preceding 5 minutes of pure clown show was far worse than that last play.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:49 PM ^
Here is the thing about set plays - the coach has to call plays the players can actually execute. Juwan seems to prefer NBA action (PNR to dribble drive) but doesn't have the players needed to make that action efficient.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^
HD dominates unathletic bigs. As soon as he plays against guys who are athletic he gets timid.
Bufkin had a bad game offensively. So many times he passes up open shot but he takes contested shots. That's coaching.
I cant for life of me figure out why Juwan plays Williams like he's Charles Oakley.
Juwan showed zero sense of urgency to win this game. He literally just let it play put. I've said it before Juwan plays Checkers. We need a coach who plays Chess.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^
We had one of those.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:22 PM ^
Juwan is our Tucker. Sorry to say.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^
Do we not have passes off cuts to the basket anymore? Teams hedge us so hard and aggressively, and we freeze or pass it into their hands.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:24 PM ^
ONCE AGAIN this team cant finish and CHOKES away any hopes of the tournament.at HOME no less. .No Heart No enthusiiasim no energy. With each passing game it looks like Howard was a swing and a miss.This is my Least favorite BB team in probably last 30 year.I Miss John Belein. I Know Howard wont be fired anytime soon so were Stuck with him for at least another season
February 11th, 2023 at 8:26 PM ^
He'll probably leave on his own back to the NBA when his boys are done at Michigan. That is where he wants to ultimately be. Good or Bad, he's not a 10 year coach at Michigan.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^
Unless he goes back as an assistant, what NBA job do you really think he’s going to be able to get at this juncture? I’m sure he had offers or serious interest after the Covid year, but I have to believe there isn’t much there now.
Again, unless he wants to go back as an assistant.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:25 PM ^
One might also note that IU only scored 2 points after the under 4 TO and those were on a totally terrible foul call. So maybe Woodson is a terrible coach too.
UM had 5 points in that time that the refs took away. 2 on HD’s last drive to the bucket that was a solid foul. Twice on Dug’s drive. A) far more contact on the shot than Bufkin’s foul, B) obvious goaltending. Ok, so that’s a 3 point play if called correctly.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:26 PM ^
What a gutless last 5 minutes. Nobody could hit a shot when they needed one, and nobody looked like they even wanted to take one. And someone will have to explain how Jett Howard is considered to be a one-and-done with shitty shots like his last couple that hit next to nothing.
No dance this year, which is fitting. They don't deserve to go.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
Jett should not be a one and done. He does not have a complete set of skills at this point. Not even close.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^
Careful. Any objective analysis of the team will get you told you know nothing about basketball. While this team keeps flailing away..
100% agree that nobody looked like they wanted that last shot... For the last 5 minutes
February 11th, 2023 at 8:26 PM ^
I have been looking at the kids shooting recently. Jett, Dug and Kobe combined to go 11-32. Kobe had a good first half and then disappeared. 11-32 is not going to cut it. Meanwhile, the guy who should be in the conversation with TJD and Edey got 10 shots. The offense is just broken.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:27 PM ^
I was just thinking about how Jett took a couple of I'll advised shots late in the game. And he's a coaches son. Just tells you that Juwan is really not a 'coach'. He's a guy who played Basketball forever.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^
This game reminds me of the Iowa game and Virginia. Just Juwan folding his arms and rolling the dice. He literally had zero sense of urgency, either that or he has no other ideas. Any blind fool could tell Reed was causing havoc. INDIANA couldn't handle him. Offensively or defensively. But Juwan thinks Williams and Baker is the answer 🤣
February 11th, 2023 at 8:32 PM ^
Big Ten Tournament auto-bid or bust.
Has that ever happened, where a surprise Big Ten team won the BTT and got the auto-bid that got them into the dance when they would have been left out otherwise?
February 11th, 2023 at 8:34 PM ^
My only beef with Nook is playing TWill so many minutes. It doesn't matter if he's the best practice player in history, he gets in games and doesn't just play poorly - he plays selfish basketball full of mistakes. It only makes matters worse knowing that if he actually played with more effort and focused on boards/D, he could be a big help to the team. Instead - 4 turnovers, 2 bricked threes, poor defense and 2 less boards than our 5'9" PG. There's no reason to keep giving major minutes to a guy who is the team's biggest liability.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:36 PM ^
If you put me out there and had me just stare at the rafters, I would do less damage to the team than TWill does.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:44 PM ^
You must be one of the Fab 5 calling him Nook 😂. Literally no one outside of his close circle calls him nook.
February 11th, 2023 at 9:10 PM ^
Lol. Nah, former 3rd rate IM baller here. I came onto campus with the Fab 5. His nickname (as for each of theirs) would be posted on the scoreboard after each made basket. So, pretty much any student of that era (who went to games) would know him as Big Nook.
February 11th, 2023 at 9:30 PM ^
Oh yah I know. I was around in those days at the CCRB. I even went to the same barber in downtown Ypsi as Juwan. They use to all hang out LA's Club Cafe.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:49 PM ^
Juwan is a players coach, he said it himself. He won’t sub out T Will because he’s an upperclassman. It’s costing them games and he just won’t realize it. Kobe, Jett, Baker, Reed and Hunter on the last play would’ve been the best roster for that last play. Go into Hunter and he has options one on one, kick out for a three or a pass down low to Reed.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:52 PM ^
He was part of the fab5 he should realize play your best players not upperclassmen.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:53 PM ^
He doesn’t though
February 11th, 2023 at 8:37 PM ^
You might think even a young team would get better at closing games by the time the regular season comes to a close, but here we fucking are.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
Juwan really needs to be able to recruit or Portal a top level point guard that can run the floor, distribute, and be a threat to score. Not having that makes Michigan much too easy to defend.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:45 PM ^
Let just hope he doesn’t portal another mediocre dude, hurting depth while the new guy spends 2/3rds of the season learning to play with the team (last season) or gets hurt (this season).
February 11th, 2023 at 8:51 PM ^
No good point guard wants to come play for Juwan. Would you send your 4* or 5* son to play in this basic offense?
February 11th, 2023 at 8:51 PM ^
I’ll give Dug a pass as a freshman, what’s T Will’s excuse? Kobe didn’t do much in the second half either. The game changed was up 3 and T Will guns a brick that could’ve used one more pass for a better shooter. That would’ve put us up 6.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:49 PM ^
Can someone explain Juwan constantly motioning his team to run? Does he think this is 2nd coming of the showtime Lakers? He wants a bunch of bad dribblesr and passers to constantly run fast breaks. He was all up in Dugs grill to run at halfcourt when it was clear we had no numbers , I thought for sure Dug was going to dribble it off his foot but he smartly pulled it back. This team can't run. Like literally sloppy and bad concepts and spacing. Anyone remember the 2 on 1 fast break Baker and Bufkins tried? Literally they look like they have never practiced fast breaks. Yet Howard is always motioning the team to run.
February 11th, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
They do need to run more when they have numbers but I really think Juwan gets too emotional and lost in the game. That is also where your assistants come into play but ours just sit over there and don’t say anything