2018-2019 UM-OSU outliers in terms of points scored by OSU.
https://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/umosu/results.htm
Ohio State managed to score 62 and 56 points in the 2018 and 2019 games. These were the most points scored by an OSU team vs Michigan all time. The scores immediately prior to the 2018/19 games were 31, 30, 42, 42, and 42. The games after 18/19 saw 27 and 23 points scored. A much more common point range for OSU in this series when you look at the games.
If I am Michigan I am going back to those games and doing some digging. We know OSU has a legacy of cheating. We know that they will go to great lengths to hurt Michigan(Steinbrenner signing away Henson).
Ohio State has deemed it fit to attack Michigan’s integrity. Okay, we can and ought to do the same. Time to fight dirty.
October 24th, 2023 at 12:15 PM ^
I'm sticking with the narrative that if you don't change your signals/signs from game to game or even series to series, then you're an absolute moron. If you tip your hand at the poker table, no one is going to feel bad as they relieve you of your money.
October 24th, 2023 at 12:28 PM ^
Not on Twitter but one of my friends sent this along to me. Looks like the digging has started and allegedly may involve this year's Notre Dame game.
October 24th, 2023 at 12:43 PM ^
Without rendering judgment on the meaning of this exchange, people do know that they can make Venmo payments private and also don't have to enter a note--certainly not a meaningful note--right?
October 24th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^
They should, but people can be really dumb about this, or maybe they don't mind the risk of getting caught.
October 24th, 2023 at 2:21 PM ^
Seriously. Using his real name when creating an online handle? Putting the real purpose of the transaction on the needlessly public Venmo note?
I figured anyone who grew up in the good'le days of the interwebs knew better than that. This guy is like your well-meaning aunt and uncle who leave comments under your fbook profile pic like: "HELLO I AM SORRY TO SAY OUR DOG DIED BUT IT IS NICE TO SEE YOU WE HOPE YOU ARE WELL PLEASE WRITE SOON"
October 24th, 2023 at 12:40 PM ^
Sure. Let's see if anyone on Ohio State's staff from 2018-19 bought tickets in their own names to our games in those seasons before our games with OSU. We'll have to see if we can also check with all the away teams from those years as well, if we can get the other teams to cooperate on that.
Then if we find out they did buy tickets, let's check the surveillance cameras on those seats and see if people were using iPhones for extended periods of time.
If we can gather all that, by all means, hand that over to the NCAA.
My guess is we won't find that. But it's worth a look.
If we don't find that, there's nothing to do. Saying "But they scored a lot of points against the world's most predictable defense!" is not evidence.
October 24th, 2023 at 12:47 PM ^
I'd sort of. . . make the case and then fight dirty? You're suggesting that those scores want investigating--do it!
October 24th, 2023 at 1:48 PM ^
You have to have proof. More likely Don Brown refused to stop playing man press when it was getting us killed.
October 24th, 2023 at 2:33 PM ^
I am still annoyed that the problem surfaced during the previous Indiana game and wasn’t corrected
October 24th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^
You can look, but I doubt anybody will leave a trail as obvious as Stalions supposedly did. Buying tickets in name, leaving venmo public, not giving PSU/OSU tickets away just to fill the seats, etc. At this point I wont be surprised if he handed over his laptop to the NCAA and he has files titled "How to scout future opponents in person without getting caught".
Im also wondering why Stalions didnt stop after it started becoming obvious to other teams that he was doing something suspicious. He allegedly got confronted at one point by an opposing staff member and Im also sure he had to have noticed opposing teams were suddenly disguising their signals more than usual. The dude was too ambitious for his own good.
October 24th, 2023 at 2:15 PM ^
We know that Disturbin' Urban had a dedicated scout spying on Michigan, so there you go.
Also, you will never convince me that Urbz and Trezzel weren't getting their players hopped up on cocaine before the Michigan games.