10 AP Voters and 4 Coaches (i.e. GAs) rank MI #1. Ohio drops to #6.

Submitted by MacGyver on November 26th, 2023 at 4:07 PM

Will the CFP Committee drop Ohio below Texas and/or Alabama?

Michichick

November 26th, 2023 at 5:55 PM ^

I have to disagree with Go for two, too. Warde Manuel is on the CFP committee - that means something. Despite the events of the last 1-1/2 months, it seems to me that the CFP committee will love having Michigan in the playoff, and the B1G absolutely would not want Michigan to be excluded from the CFP.

These committees and conference governing bodies, etc., are as much about power and money as about their allegedly core mission to crown the undisputed national FB champion. Follow the money. Michigan has one of the largest bodies of living alumni and fan bases that care and travel in the country. Michigan in the CFP means greater attention, more revenue from countless sources (gate-TV-ads-merch), and maybe even more this year especially with all the attention since mid-October. People also love to hate on Harbaugh - they will watch just to see him. Negative attention is still attention.

Same with the B1G - with Michigan in, all 14 teams make bank. The B1G would love to have as many conference teams in as possible.

1VaBlue1

November 26th, 2023 at 7:53 PM ^

What you write is true, which is why the league doing what it did was so baffling!  It makes no sense other than they expected OSU to be in and would therefore still get the same payout.  The league - all 13 other teams and the administration in Chicago, wanted OSU to win that game.  They didn't not care about which one - they cared plenty.  They cared so much that they fabricated a line of bullshit and fucked us over.

Michigan needs to remember that forever.  Michigan needs to stop rolling over because of that.

aiglick

November 26th, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^

I don’t think there’s anyway FSU should they make it in not get the 4 seed. They would need to throttle Louisville who is much better than the team FSU just struggled with.

UMForLife

November 26th, 2023 at 4:13 PM ^

I am curious to see how CFP committee ranks OSU tomorrow. Behind Texas and Bama or in front of them. Behind Oregon or ahead of them.

Regardless, glad to see the signgate crap is winding down.

BornInA2

November 26th, 2023 at 4:16 PM ^

As I posted in the other thread, after beating 7-5 Maryland by 8 points we dropped from 2 to 3 in both polls.

After kicking a walk-off field goal to squeak by 5-7 Washington State, Washington moved up to 2 in both polls, up one in the AP and two in the Coaches.

The cognitive dissonance is thundering.

rc90

November 26th, 2023 at 4:39 PM ^

They jumped Ohio State, who lost this weekend (at least until Gene Smith gets the Big Ten to clean the matter up), and they jumped Florida State, who recently lost their starting QB and then this week were trailing the carcass of 5-7 Florida in the 4th quarter.

funkywolve

November 26th, 2023 at 6:49 PM ^

For teams not in the playoffs bowl games are interesting more to see who sits out then the games.  I'd be stunned if Harrison plays in a bowl game if they miss the playoffs.

Iowa and LSU have a pretty good chance of being paired in the Citrus Bowl.  Watching the LSU offense go against Iowa's defense would be fun but I'm guessing Jayden Daniels has played his last game for LSU.

crg

November 26th, 2023 at 4:21 PM ^

One AP voter (Scott Springer, affiliated with Cincinnati) ranked a 9-3 Notre Dame at #10... ahead of Ole Miss, Penn State, Oklahoma, Iowa, Louisville, LSU, Ok State, Tulane and undefeated Liberty.

Quite a choice.

Hensons Mobile…

November 26th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^

The CFP will keep OSU ahead of Bama and UT because they would rather have a 1-loss OSU in the CFP than a 2-loss non-champion. But they won't want to look dumb for promoting a team that benefited from not playing.

umfan83

November 26th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^

I hate that during this whole era of dominance where we're 37-3, 3 wins over OSU, a win away from 3 straight Big Ten titles and CFP appearances, we haven't been able to crawl into the number 1 spot even once. And unless Georgia loses to Bama we won't this year unless we just go and do something crazy like win it all!

True Blue Grit

November 26th, 2023 at 4:28 PM ^

Gotta root for FSU against Louisville.  FSU losing is the only plausible way I see that OSU gets in, barring some unlikely outcome in either the Big Ten and SEC title games.  No matter what happens in the Pac12 title game, one of those teams should be in.

bacon1431

November 26th, 2023 at 4:29 PM ^

I imagine the CFP will look the same. And that’s good if you don’t want OSU getting in. Texas and Bama might be behind, but they have ways to improve their resume. OSU can’t. 

Hensons Mobile…

November 26th, 2023 at 4:39 PM ^

And that’s good if you don’t want OSU getting in.

If I don't want OSU getting in (I don't), how is them being ranked above other teams a good thing?

It's true that Bama and UT would jump them with a win next week, but they would 100% stay behind OSU if they lose. If they start out above OSU, you might have a chance they'd stay ahead of OSU despite losing in a championship game.

EGD

November 26th, 2023 at 7:01 PM ^

There’s the argument from at least Alabama win its division (OSU didn’t win jack), and you shouldn’t penalize Alabama/Texas for playing in a CCG and reward OSU for sitting at home watching. 

I agree with you it’s more likely OSU would be selected than a two-loss team, but I don’t think it’s beyond argument.

bacon1431

November 26th, 2023 at 8:24 PM ^

They punished USC for playing an extra game last year. If the number of losses is equal, I don’t think they punish a team for the extra game. So Georgia and Washington might be ahead of them even if they lose like TCU was last season. Not so sure on FSU as their Qb is out for the year and they don’t have as high quality wins as any of the other potential one loss teams have. 

turtleboy

November 26th, 2023 at 4:35 PM ^

Ever since divisions were announced it has amazed me to no end that the West was consistently up for grabs, if teams could rise to be only just slightly better than mediocre, and yet every year without fail they'd not only refuse to find any success on the field, they'd seemingly have competitions to see who could be the biggest embarrassment, leaving fucking Iowa to win by default every season. Once upon a time Wisconsin could be relied upon to rush for 300 yards a game, Nebraska still played actual football, Illinois got a handful of players drafted every year, now they're devolved into doormats.