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Brian September 13th, 2023 at 2:30 PM

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The State of our NIL. Deeply ironic that Michael Rosenberg is the one to write a story on Michigan's NIL program after the whole Freep investigation thing—which portrayed a series of minor envelope-pushes from Rodriguez as a program that was violating NCAA regulations on countable hours by a factor of three—but since he did and it has some insight into the murkiest thing in college football, link grudgingly deployed. Sounds like whatever deficiencies led Hunter Dickinson to Kansas don't apply to football:

[Corum] bought two rental properties in his home state of Virginia and invested in an apartment complex in Michigan to “make sure I have that cash flow coming in on a regular basis.” As he points out: “A lot of kids leave college, and they don’t have any money. They just have debt.”

Corum did not give out an exact number but asserted he is "in the 1%." And since NIL cannot be used as a recruiting inducement you get a lot of up front promises that are not backed by binding contracts. The result:

“I have a lot of friends from different schools and different programs where they’re getting promised money up front, whether it’s the [transfer] portal or in recruiting, and when they get to the program, they’re just not getting what they were told,” Keegan says. “That’s causing a lot of problems in other locker rooms.”

Corum says he has friends at other schools who tell similar stories: “They’d never signed anything, so therefore, they didn’t get it.”

Keegan says he made 50-70k between the Big Ten championship game and TCU and expects to bring in low to mid six figures this year. As a guard! Who is the second best guard on the team!

Also in the Blake Corum, perfect human files:

[Edwards and Corum] have done joint autograph signings and have talked about building low-income housing together someday.

Blake Corum may have opinions about downtown FAR premiums.

[After THE JUMP: Mel Tucker items.]

Mel Tucker updates. Suspended without pay, went private on twitter, waiting approximately one month for his hearing. Released a statement…

…through his lawyer that references Jim Harbaugh for some reason and asserts that the "'hearing scheduled for October 5-6 is ridiculously flawed and not designed to arrive at the truth." Certainly reads like posturing to get his buyout because not even Mel Tucker is delusional enough to believe he's ever coaching another college football game.

Even if he's innocent, his conduct in the aftermath of the complaint being filed is obviously disqualifying (he said, ignoring Art Briles being on the field at Oklahoma):

During the interview, Tucker also made an explosive new allegation: He said his associate had told him that renowned ESPN investigative reporter Paula Lavigne was investigating the veracity of the gang-rape story at the heart of Tracy’s public persona. The information, Tucker said, made him question how Tracy “goes about her business.”

Veidlinger did not address this allegation in her report, but Lavigne denied the allegation.

“Neither (Tracy's) organization nor Tracy is or has been the target of any investigative reporting,” Lavigne said in a statement to USA TODAY. “I’m perplexed that Mel Tucker would respond to a complaint of sexual harassment by involving me or ESPN.”

Welcome to an NFL quality control job.

Meanwhile Brenda Tracy asserted that she came forward to USA Today after someone on the Michigan State side of things leaked her name to the media. What motivation someone inside MSU would have to leak this now, two games into the season, instead of over the summer, is unclear. Post-leak seems worse for MSU than the previous situation by a lot, and it doesn't seem like leaking is going to help MSU as they try to get out of the buyout—seems like it would hurt, actually. Meanwhile Michigan State officials have asserted that they were aware there was a complaint but had no idea about the details of that complaint…

…which seems to conflict with Tracy's assertion that someone from MSU leaked her name. I seriously doubt anyone in the Title IX office would do that.

The LSJ reports that it's unclear what steps MSU took to monitor Tucker's behavior after the complaint was filed, which has particular resonance since Larry Nassar was given several protocols to follow after a 2014 Title IX investigation:

Those protocols included having another person in the room during procedures of "anything close to a sensitive area" and modifying procedures to have "little to no" skin-to-skin contact, according to records.

At the time, the dean was William Strampel, who was later sentenced to a year in jail following a felony conviction for using his position to proposition and control female medical students.

Strampel only told one other person about the protocols. When the university fired Nassar in 2016, following an Indianapolis Star story that detailed sexual assault claims against him, the school discovered Nassar had not been following those protocols.

Even though it's deeply unlikely that Tucker was doing crimes that would have been stopped or uncovered by additional monitoring this should be the kind of thing MSU is hyper-vigilant about. It does not appear that is the case.

On the plus side for Tucker he's got Zach Smith and Clay Travis on his side, who I decline to link. If I ever have those two people on my side, I will voluntarily go to jail forever.

How the Worthy thing went down. From Xavier Worthy's perspective, anyway:

When he first picked Michigan, Worthy planned to be an early enrollee. His school district didn’t allow seniors to graduate early. Jones got creative. She got him enrolled in Apex Learning Virtual School, an online program, for the fall of 2020. It wasn’t easy to get that plan lined up without guidance counselors, but Jones ensured his class schedule met all graduation and NCAA initial eligibility requirements.

In early January 2021, two weeks before Worthy would move to Ann Arbor with J.J. McCarthy, Donovan Edwards and the Wolverines’ freshman enrollees, a problem emerged. Michigan has strict admissions standards for midyear enrollees, one former staffer said, and wasn’t able to get Worthy admitted into school. He was told that based on his academic profile, it would be better to enroll in June for U-M’s summer bridge program. His mother was stunned.

“For me, that didn’t fly,” she said. “I turned in all of his academic paperwork and applications in September. As far as I had been told, up until two weeks before, he was on track to enroll early. There was nothing missing, nothing short, they’d waived the SATs. It didn’t make sense. Something wasn’t right. What’s the problem and why am I finding out about this now?”

I can understand why Michigan isn't taking online high school courses, which the Bishop Sycamore wafts off of. For Michigan not to make it very clear to Worthy that Apex Learning wasn't going to cut it before it was time to enroll is not great. But then Worthy decommits and goes to Texas… where he enrolls after spring practice. So that didn't actually accelerate anything. Worthy and his mom cite broken trust between Michigan and themselves, which is fair. But frustrating.

Speaking of. Interesting film breakdown of Texas's bombs against Alabama by Dan Orlovsky:

As a resident of the state of Michigan I am obligated by law to mention that Orlovksy once ran out of his own endzone for a safety. Sorry, Dan, I don't make the law.

The Big Ten East needs a wealth tax. The inequality is out of control. Week 2 SP+:

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The next-highest Big Ten East team is #34 Maryland, which SP+ would make a two-touchdown dog against anyone 2 through 4.

Etc.: Joe Milton arm hagiography. OSU makes McCord the starter. Sixth year Iowa DT Noah Shannon has a year-long suspension upheld for gambling on a different Iowa team. Now we are the hunted. Mike Elston thinks his DL is good.

Comments

EGD

September 13th, 2023 at 3:17 PM ^

[Edwards and Corum] have done joint autograph signings and have talked about building low-income housing together someday.

As an advocate for low-income tenants, including through the preservation and expansion of affordable housing, I be like dang. 

(I should add that am also a former legal aid attorney and Harbaugh has been an outspoken advocate for legal aid funding, so AFAIAC this Michigan team is the greatest ever)

ST3

September 13th, 2023 at 4:52 PM ^

From the non-professional point of view (I.e., Mel Tucker’s) people aren’t required to testify under oath, Mel can’t submit evidence of innocence, there’s no opening or closing statements or opportunities for Mel to explain his case. 
He claims this is not a Title IX issue, merely a policy violation. He claims MSU admitted there is no Title IX jurisdiction. This seems easily refutable, but I haven’t seen a follow up response to his statement.

XM - Mt 1822

September 13th, 2023 at 7:15 PM ^

the matters are very serious, but handled by people who are not remotely qualified to be handling something like that, even assuming the best of motives (and that's not always true).  beyond that, the rules are totally inappropriate for handling matters that serious, the truth testing of cross examination is usually not allowed, and the procedural irregularities make it, candidly, kangaroo court.  this is a comment solely on the process, not the merits of anyone's position. 

curious where you get your comment about 'rule the world' from in terms of Title IX hearings.  how many have you done?  what part did you play in the various hearings?  or was that more an expression of emotion and general resentment toward men?  

JBLPSYCHED

September 14th, 2023 at 9:06 AM ^

Thanks for your response—very interesting. I am not a lawyer and have no experience with Title IX which is why I asked. My comment about men was about how, in my opinion, men have downplayed the rights and needs of women in and out of the workplace. Hence the obviously broad generalization that in discounting the inherent equal value of women we seem to think we’re in charge, ie. “rule the world.” 

XM - Mt 1822

September 14th, 2023 at 10:47 AM ^

got it.  

and let me put a little more context into my remark.  imagine that you and i are the best new referees in pop warner football.  we've only done it for a few games, but we are smart, quick decisions, fair, etc.   now imagine after, say, our third game at pop warner we suddenly get picked to referee the U of M v. ohio game.  or an NFL game.  and make it so a lot of the rules on how we ref are kind of optional, or not observed.   how would we do?  not great, and it has nothing to do with our ability or motivation, but simply lack of training and experience, made worse by strange rules.   

Needs

September 14th, 2023 at 12:18 PM ^

For what it's worth, I've worked fairly closely with Title IX administrators in a university setting and the idea that they lack training, experience, or professionalism has been the opposite of my experience. They may be working within structures that do not follow the adversarial practices of the legal system, but any shortcomings in the structures are those of a relatively new system set up to answer to new kinds of conflict with uncertain standards, rather than the people working within them, who have never been less than discrete and incredibly professional.

kyeblue

September 13th, 2023 at 3:20 PM ^

For the Worthy story, I am surprised that Michigan doesn't have a point person to advise recruits on meeting admission requirements. Does NCAA restrict contact between admission office personnel and student athletes? 

BornInA2

September 13th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^

“A lot of kids leave college, and they don’t have any money. They just have debt.”

And their parents and grandparents and anyone else who helps them, which is why I find it gross that a handful of eighteen year-olds become millionaires at state-funded universities while 99.9% fall into massive debt that takes decades to dig out of.

If sports are generating that much extra cash it should be used to provide scholarships or otherwise reduce the cost of college for all students, not a tiny, tiny percentage of them who were already getting a free ride +.

GoBlue1530

September 13th, 2023 at 3:39 PM ^

This money is not coming from a pot of money from the university or the athletic department. It's either coming through actual NIL deals with Bosse + Wolverine Boots, etc. or through wealthy donors who are giving to the student athletes because they are good at football and wouldn't be giving that money otherwise. 

 

Yes, college could / should be cheaper, but it's not because Blake Corum is making $500,000+ that the price of tuition is as expensive as it is. 

Carpetbagger

September 13th, 2023 at 3:43 PM ^

So an athlete, whose earnings lifetime in athletics is about 4 years, assuming they ever see a professional contract at all, should pay the freight for those of us who got a degree that will pay us back over 40 years?

I understand athletes can do both, but being an athlete at a college level is almost a full time job.

I also understand people go to college and don't get degrees that pay off over their lifetime, but that's on them.

Markley Mojo

September 13th, 2023 at 6:37 PM ^

Just to underline this, the athletic department reported $215.1 million in operating revenue for fiscal year 2023. Meanwhile, net student tuition was $1.59 Billion-with-a-B, and overall university revenue was $9 Billion, according to the FY22 financial statements.

Athletics is a marketing program for the real business of the university.

PopeLando

September 13th, 2023 at 4:37 PM ^

Are you serious? Are you really arguing that people who make their employer a lot of money don’t deserve a lot of money?

Do you also argue that if NFL teams make so much money, that maybe instead of paying their players they should give the money to city residents?

I agree that university tuition is ridiculously expensive. But I’m scratching my head about why you’ve identified football as the responsible party to solve that issue.

BornInA2

September 13th, 2023 at 5:15 PM ^

Because money is getting dump-trucked into it (and basketball) and it's going to a tiny fraction of the students. You can argue paths and pots all day, but that's nothing but a convenient veil. To me it's no different than CEOs making 2000 times the average pay of their employees.

And yeah, I'm personally bitter because my Summa Cum Laude kid got her assistantship revoked during COVID while the sports-ballers and all their coaches and staff stayed on full scholarship/pay. Because why? Revenue. Completely, uttterly fucked up that schools did this.

They aren't academic institutions with sports anymore, they are sports businesses that bankrupt kids on the side, and I think that's wrong and entirely changeable.

PopeLando

September 13th, 2023 at 7:35 PM ^

Here’s something that I think about a lot:

Once upon a time, I was talking with a friend about my job in the retirement industry.

She asked about the size of the trust I helped manage, and when I told her, without a second’s hesitation, her response was “think how many people that could help!”

And I was like “yeah, half a million: all the active and retired members of the system. And their families.”

See, it never ONCE entered her mind that the large amount of money in the trust was already part of the employees’ and former employees’ deferred compensation. She didn’t once think about whether those people had earned the money and the right to a secure retirement. She IMMEDIATELY went to how OTHER people ‘deserved’ that money.

That’s you, I think, except you have more bitterness and less altruism. I’m sorry that your daughter lost her financial package. It’s really weird that you’re blaming the football players.

yossarians tree

September 13th, 2023 at 3:43 PM ^

Mel's going down for this, but they will settle out of court with him to avoid any kind of dragged out thing. Mel's statement brings a lot more context to the story. The original complaint from her was to the effect of "I was on the phone with the coach and all of a sudden he says "Oh, hey I'm jacking off right now." That doesn't sound plausible. It sure sounds like they had some sort of affair for at least a little while. I know it's not "correct" to suggest that it's possible that after it ended she saw an opportunity to shake him down. But, I've lived in the world.

bronxblue

September 13th, 2023 at 3:59 PM ^

I know it's not "correct" to suggest that it's possible that after it ended she saw an opportunity to shake him down. But, I've lived in the world.

Sure, and I've also lived in the world where a rich guy thinks every woman wants to have sex with him and would absolutely take any sign of normal human interest in him from a woman as overtly sexual in nature and proceed to crank it while on the phone.  That's also just as likely.  We'll probably never know for sure but she hasn't, AFAIK, filled a lawsuit against Tucker or sought any financial gain beyond Tucker's claims her lawyer told him it would cost a lot to keep her quiet, which given the other unsubstantiated claims (as well as easily found false ones) he made throughout that letter gives me pause.

Now maybe Tracy is trying to "shake him down" but considering shaking him down would be reliant on her not talking about the affair and she instead wound up filing a Title IX report with his employer, that feels less likely at least to me.  

kehnonymous

September 13th, 2023 at 4:19 PM ^

Mel Tugger's (I'm going to just use that from now on) statement reminds me of this classic quote from Carl Sandburg:

“If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”

― Carl Sandburg

Be that as it may, the mere fact that Zach Smith is on his side is all that needs to be said.

SalvatoreQuattro

September 13th, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^

It’s equally possible that they had a platonic relationship that he misconstrued as having romantic overtones. We live a world where men do that constantly.

Our culture is still deeply misogynistic as seen by the responses to this incident. People, mostly men of all colors, refuse to accept with an open mind claims from women of sexual harassment. 

I can’t say Brenda Tracy is telling the truth because I wasn’t there. But I also can’t say she is lying either.

I do know that Tucker has lied about leaving Colorado and where he was when he jerked his gerkin. I do know that he admitted to that act. I do know that he has bizarrely invoked Harbaugh and Paula Lavigne in what seems like a drowning man flailing about for a life raft.

LSA91

September 13th, 2023 at 5:24 PM ^

If you put their stories together, you could kind of make them match by guessing that they had a kind of friendship where Tugger thought he had a chance, and Kelly thought she was letting him down easy by deflecting him when he started flirting.

Still, even accepting Tug's story for the purpose of argument, it's crazy to hit on a sexual assualt victim's advocate that you have a business relationship with. IMHO, that's enough to fire him with cause even if you believe him, which I don't.

MGlobules

September 13th, 2023 at 5:27 PM ^

A woman is allowed to be in an affair with a guy, to consider one, to think she's on the road to one, to be attracted to him--none of those place her in legal jeopardy or make her complicit in any ugliness he manifests toward her subsequently, except in the view of dudes who don't get it/don't want to. Whipping it out and whacking it, when a woman doesn't want you to, is the firable, unacceptable offense here. People have been pointing this out for three days on this site and waves of guys who don't get it keep piping up to suggest she was {insert something like "herself complicit"} because she was interested, liked him, had been involved/had a history with him, etc. No, she wasn't. The parallels to sexual violence and how it's been justified for forever should be obvious to thinking people: No means fucking no. No means no fucking. No means don't fuck with a woman who says no. 

Happily, Mel dicked himself. Out of a lot of freaking money. And is gonna get laughed at for the rest of his days. 

bronxblue

September 13th, 2023 at 3:45 PM ^

I doubt we'll ever really know but the fact that MSU apparently didn't deploy reasonable measures and protocols to monitor Mel Tucker's behavior with Tracy leads me to side-eye the claims Haller and others made that they didn't know the details of this investigation.  I'm sure they'll claim they didn't know and the Title IX office should exist outside of the school's purview but...people talk and stuff gets out.  The Mel Pearson report apparently got leaked as well, and (I believe) that was similarly part of a Title IX investigation.  Maybe Tracy leaked it but if you're asking me who to believe amongst Mel Tucker (buttressed by chodes like Zach Smith and Clay Travis), MSU (who hired John fucking Engler as their president and then saw him shit himself in public multiple times when dealing with the Nassar fallout) and Tracy, I'm going with the latter.  

On a lighter note, I'm really happy that UM seems to have a sustainable NIL program.  I've read posts heard stories about guys who were lied to about NIL as recruits and it seems immensely predictable, so whatever UM has going on seems to be working.  Yes, winning helps but I also think treating these athletes like adults is better than trying to trick them.

Thought Texas had a nice gameplan against Alabama but both of those plays mostly relied on Alabama not having a pass rush and Texas WRs getting huge runways.  So yeah, solid play calls but "it worked so here's why it worked" analysis felt a bit reductive.  And most of Ewers's throws outside of those bombs were little screens and dump-offs or were off-target.  It worked and kudos to Texas for winning but had Alabama gotten even an average QB performance that is a closer game, if not a win for the Tide.

As for this league, it is super top-heavy and I sort of wonder if that really changes.  Maybe Wisconsin figures it out but beyond them everyone else has a ceiling that is "top-25, sometimes".

 

los barcos

September 13th, 2023 at 4:33 PM ^

Re the S&P rankings - this is why I have no problem with Michigan playing a bunch of meatballs in the OOC. At the end of the season, they're still going to have one of the hardest schedules in the country.  The fact that the BIGEAST has 3(!!!) of the top 5 teams + a Maryland team that may wind up around a top 25 team by the end of the year + 1-2 other bowl bound teams means any trip up OOC would essentially torpedo their playoff chances.

If OSU loses to ND, that puts them on a razor's edge in the toughest division in football - meaning every game is must win.  After all, this is still a bunch of 18-22 year olds and anything can happen.  No thanks.  

Blau

September 13th, 2023 at 4:33 PM ^

Thoughts on the NIL stuff:

- I'm happy the players are getting paid through their NIL packages and by all accounts, UM is being upfront about expectations by not making outlandish promises. I can't help but wonder what teams like Texas A&M conjured up in the infant stages of the NIL Wild West.

- With that said, I'm crazy jealous/curious at the sheer amount of $$$ the players are receiving. Don't get me wrong, my career pays well and I love my job but damn if it wouldn't be great to set investments up as reported above and be able to give back the way Corum & Co. have.

- The 1% tier of NIL packages for top players will be an interesting study going forward i.e. Caleb Williams considering not declaring for the NFL Draft because he's getting paid well at USC and doesn't want to go the Cardinals or a for-the-moment bum NFL team. He does realize that teams trade up for QBs all the time and those teams picking first usually have an abundance of draft capitol at their disposal, right? $30+ million guaranteed is more than ~$5 million last time I checked.

- I can't help but think back to Fab 5 documentary when Jalen Rose and Jimmy King were discussing how players were lucky to scrape enough change together to get fast food here or there. We're about 30 years too late on this one it seems. 

- Lastly, and this is just my opinion, I think we're not far off from potential recruits/commits having to sign contracts (not be confused with LOI) with schools with stipulations on things like transferring or leaving the team. I can't imagine donors and sponsors handing out cash and getting little in return. 

LSA91

September 13th, 2023 at 5:17 PM ^

One possible motive for a leak: Mel's contract provides that MSU can fire him for cause and avoid the buyout if he:

engages in any conduct which constitutes moral turpitude or which, in the university's sole judgement, would tend to bring public disrespect, contempt or ridicule upon the university.

I'll grant that the contract allows MSU to decide whether conduct would "tend" to bring public disrespect, contempt or ridicule," but surely it helps their case that half of the internet is now busy publicly expressing disrespect, contempt and ridicule for their program...

MaynardST

September 13th, 2023 at 6:53 PM ^

It's interesting that Rosenberg focuses on why Michigan's NIL works for football.  However, it's not only the process.  It's also because Michigan is usually recruiting smart players with great character. The article makes me feel that every NIL decommit is a positive because the player is going to a place where he will make the team chemistry worse.  Meanwhile, most Michigan football players will be successful in life, which has been the case for many years, maybe at least since Willie Heston played. One thing that has helped is a connection with former Michigan players. It will no doubt be an honor to work for Blake Corum some day.  Now it's time to fix NIL for basketball.

Communist Football

September 13th, 2023 at 9:22 PM ^

FYI Brian, it has been reported that MSU is investigating Tucker through an internal “Relationship Violence & Harrassment” policy, not Title IX, which may explain why some people at MSU knew who the complainant was.