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Brian November 17th, 2021 at 12:03 PM

11/16/2021 – Michigan 65, Seton Hall 67 – 2-1

Eli Brooks used to be a wallflower sort of player, the kind of guy who'd get the ball in his hands and dispose of it as quickly as possible. He knew he was a basketball player and they were expected to shoot from time to time, so he did that. These shots had a certain aura to them. You could almost hear Brooks thinking "oh God I think I have to take this" as they went up.

The results followed. Brooks shot 41/25 and 46/29 his first two years. Everyone wanted to process him. Then, I mean, whatever, it was fine.

Brooks went to a place of utter solitude between his sophomore and junior seasons, and after eons of patient meditation he emerged with a turtleneck and an entire different aura. First he shot 36% from three, then he hit 40% while just about doubling his assist rate. People stopped talking about him like he was a liability, especially because Michigan tended to implode whenever Brooks wasn't available. My dude had become talismanic.

Anyway, I was thinking this last night for two reasons. One was Brooks bailing Michigan's ass out of an 0/11 streak en route to 17 points, 4 assists, 3 steals, and 2 OREBS(!). He matriculated into the midrange and knocked down pull-up jumpers with an air of confidence. It felt like the scene after the montage in a teen comedy where the nerdy guy/girl undergoes a FASHION MAKEOVER.

[After THE JUMP: need more Brookses]

The other reason was everyone else not named Hunter Dickinson giving off massive underclass Eli Brooks vibes. Devante' Jones fouled out on an absurdly obvious reach-in. Brandon Johns passed up a wide open three so he could take an off-the-dribble long two, which he airballed. The subsequent three he put up was the definition of "oh God I think I have to take this." Various Michigan players decided that pump fakes were optional against Ike Obiagu during a first-half stretch where Obiagu channeled 90s Dikembe Mutumbo. And Caleb Houstan… oof. Just generally oof.

By crunch time there were only two players I wanted on the court, which is bad because basketball generally requires five. I would have killed for Chaundee Brown to come off the bench and launch every single three that was vaguely justifiable. Chaundee Brown was ruthless and never hesitated. Michigan's current lineup is… not that.

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To some extent the departure from last year's team of generally ruthless folks and this performance is exaggerated because we are remembering the team that stormed through the Big Ten and not the one that went to OT against Oakland and scraped by Penn State by 4. There were early season problems then, as well: Mike Smith's defense, anything that put Dickinson on the bench, severely limited backcourt depth.

Michigan fought through those and became the juggernaut they were a season ago. That exact thing isn't likely to recur since a couple players are coming in way below expectations in ways that I don't think are immediately fixable. Johns's wavering confidence seems inherent to his being. Guy was passing up good threes last year when he was surrounded by other guys who could pick it up; passing them up this year is malpractice for a guy hitting at a decent clip. Houstan has major defensive issues that are being exacerbated by his matchup. He looks like a stretch four, which is a problem when Michigan has three guys to play the four and no one to play the three.

Never say never—I would have laid good odds against anyone ever saying "Mike Smith, eh, he's all right on D" last year—but going from Franz Wagner to a massive defensive hole at the 3 is going to take an adjustment period. Michigan adapting to its new shooting configuration is going to take an adjustment period.

That's disappointing, but not everything's going to go as perfectly as last year did. Unless Brooks leads some sort of retreat into the solace of nothingness. That's the ticket.

BULLETS

Hey so… who's got two sick kids and not enough sleep! This guy! Apologies but bullets didn't make it this time.

Comments

Mich1993

November 17th, 2021 at 12:21 PM ^

My fix for the next game is to swap in Williams and Diabate for Johns and Houstan.  Might help both Johns and Houstan and get Williams steady hand on the court.  Team would severely lack shooting but would be a defensive menace.  Run offense through Dickinson and then sub in Houstan or Bufkin to get some shooting on the court.

Mich1993

November 17th, 2021 at 2:59 PM ^

I think Johns and Williams need to morph their offensive games.  Williams needs to slow his shot down a little and/or shoot a little less while, as has been stated, Johns needs to just shoot it more often.  Agree Williams is inconsistent, but I think that would improve with more consistent time running with the starters and learning his role.

potomacduc

November 18th, 2021 at 4:01 PM ^

Agreed. I definitely do not see Williams as a "steady hand" at this point. He's an energy player and sometimes that means he hustles for a few loose balls, a couple of steals, gets loose on the break and gets a hot shooting hand. Other times it means he flies around out of control rushing passes and his shot. I like Williams and I think he eventually pulls it together to be a bit more even-keeled, but he's not there yet.

GoBlue C4

November 17th, 2021 at 12:23 PM ^

1- DJ / Brooks 30/10

2- Brooks / Zeb 25/15

3- Bufkin / Williams 20/20

4- Houstan / Johns 30/10

5- Dickinson / Diabate 30/10

Michigan needs more shooting around Dickinson and better defense at the 3. If Johns wants to keep screwing around, give his minutes to Diabate.

Pumafb

November 17th, 2021 at 1:57 PM ^

Eliminate Johns altogether. He's not good and has never been good. He certainly isn't likely to suddenly figure it out now. Give Diabate 10 min at the 5 and 10 min at the 4. Also, the comments saying "wait until Zeb is back" are weird. He was not very good last year at all. While he is likely to improve, it seems like people are saying he is the difference maker. We have no idea what he is. He could very well be a similar version of last year. 

TrueBlue2003

November 17th, 2021 at 3:07 PM ^

This is a good point.  I've been down on him as well and perhaps that's not fair.  He had solid stats last year and has just struggled mightily this year (in a very small sample size to be fair).  Even his block and steal rates are only about half what they were last year.  Everything is way down for him.

The one potential hang up is that Michigan had more shooting around him last year and he could play a more old school power forward game.  This year he needs to shoot when he's open.  And for the life of me I don't know why he's not.  Passing up the open three to take one dribble and shoot an 18 footer just inside the line is something I just can't believe a guy is doing in his fourth year in a program that is correctly very averse to shooting the much lower EV long twos.  Massive face palm on that one (along with many other shots he passed up last night).

Jones and Houstan are not yet the facilitators that Smith and Franz were last year so Johns has to be more aggressive.  That doesn't even mean creating shots for others.  It does mean taking open shots because those are harder to come by with this team so far.

True Blue Grit

November 17th, 2021 at 12:23 PM ^

Very nice writeup and summary of where the team stands after 3 games.  I think last night was just one of those growing-pains type of game that we need to expect for awhile.  Thank goodness for Eli Brooks though.  It's been a pleasure to see his evolution and development since he came in as a freshman.  He's a great example of why 4+ year players are so important to a team.  Many people forget too that Villanova really wanted him pretty badly.  So, they saw how good of a player he could become, as did John Beilein.  

I think Jones will get a lot more consistent and will learn he can't get away with the type of defensive plays he did at Coastal Carolina, several of which were very costly to the team last night.  Brandon Johns though is a big disappointment so far however.  Even with being  a starter and getting plenty of minutes, he just still can't find the confidence to become what he's capable of.  I'm not giving up on him, but Juwan may have to have a plan B ready in case he doesn't get better.

AWAS

November 17th, 2021 at 1:27 PM ^

It's such a fine line between winning and losing.  If Johns puts up four three-point shots and makes only 25% (one of them), we win the game.  Despite his offensive issues, he had an excellent defensive game which is discounted in most comments I've seen.  His shooting issues were magnified by the meltdown around him, but he was put back in the game after some really bad defensive sequences.

gbdub

November 17th, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^

Minor quibble - the absurd reach in was not Jones' fifth, it was his fourth. His fifth was an intentional one when Seton Hall picked up a rebound still up 1. But it was "spiritually" him fouling out since it gave Seton Hall 2 shots while trailing by 1, on a possession where "just play defense" was absolutely the play. 

charblue.

November 17th, 2021 at 1:56 PM ^

He picked up his closing fouls in the closing seconds. The block call on him was terrible. At any other point in the game, that is a charge every time. He had established position and was set moments before contact with the offensive player.

And it was called from behind by the trail official instead of from the sideline where the official normally would be positioned after moving with play flow as the ball crossed midcourt and his officiating partners had established location of their center and lead officiating angles. The call was made primarily, in my opinion, because the player collision occurred moments after a takedown of Dickinson in the middle of the lane at Michigan's offensive end, with no call ensuing.

No player on either team were called for as many fouls as Jones was in the final minute of the contest at any other point in the game. But even then, the crew wasn't sure Jones had fouled out on this fifth until the crew was about to administer free throws and the table alerted the calling official of Jones disqualification. Jones final fouls were designed to get the ball back after he was penalized on the prior block foul call. I have no issues with a guy trying to make plays to help his team win in that instance.  

carlos spicywiener

November 17th, 2021 at 12:36 PM ^

Id like to remind everyone of the last elite defensive buzzsaw - the Final Four team in 2017 - and how poorly they started the season

Zavier Simpson and Charles Matthews were scapegoats at first, by the tourney they were indispensable.

If we have to win a bunch of games 70-67, so be it. By the tourney we'll be a tough out.

JeepinBen

November 17th, 2021 at 12:47 PM ^

Great point about the Oakland & PSU games last year. Basketball teams take time to gel and learn to play together, especially one with all these new moving pieces. Last year the main new players were:

  • Dickinson, who didn't start and got better throughout the year
  • Brown, who didn't start and filled his role amazingly by the end
  • Smith, who had a ton of defensive improvement throughout the year
  • Williams, who didn't have a huge role

This year they're folding in new starters in Houstan and DJ, plus two of their first 3 off the bench in Moussa & whichever guard is coming off the bench. This is a super talented collection of players who are going to be a much better team after some more time. 

Gustavo Fring

November 17th, 2021 at 12:47 PM ^

Three fixes:

- Swap Eli and Jones’ roles on offense.  Eli looked significantly more comfortable out of pick and roll.  He got basically wherever he wanted, he was able to score at three levels, and he can hit every pass.  The lack of shooting hurts but Michigan is hurt more by a lack of drive and kick game from Jones.  Eli can boost that.  Jones in comparison seemed  to struggle on ball.  He often had to turn his back to the hoop from 45 feet to deal with Seton Hall’s ball pressure.  His passing lacked juice and aggression.  As a passer compared to Eli he looks like Jake O’Korn compared to Wilton Speight.  But he did hit a big three and can slash.  Simplify his role, let him attack rotating defenses off Hunter post-ups, Eli pick and roll kick outs, and defenses overreacting to Caleb-Hunter DHO (btw, this needs to be emphasized more).

- Reduce Johns’ minutes with a combination of Williams, Houstan, Moussa at the 4.  If Houstan is a stretch 4 (personally, I don’t think that’s the solve as Michigan’s already struggling on the glass and he needs time in the weight room) play him there, Kobe at the 3 and we can get some real spacing.  T Will is no elite shooter but he’s shown himself to be willing and capable of shooting and slashing and when your team can only get 15 3’s up, you take that. And Moussa simply needs more minutes.  He’s a non shooter, but so is Johns and Moussa is more threatening off the dribble and on the glass.  And you can’t take Hunter off the floor for more than 10-15 mins per game.

- When Moussa is in the game, run.  Take the ball out of the hoop even in made baskets and run like hell.  But they can’t keep up with him in transition.  Trapping in half court seemed to work well as well.  Also, more PnR with Houstan (kinda like Stauskas’ role as a freshman) would be welcome too.  He might be the best passer on the team. Everyone will focus on the shooting and defense but he had 3 assists and 1 turnover; you’re lying to yourself if you think his struggles are the same or as likely to continue as Johns’

TrueBlue2003

November 17th, 2021 at 1:24 PM ^

Agree with all this, and I'm not worried about rebounding without Johns.  I even reject the premise that they're struggling on the boards.  They haven't given up more than 30% Orebs in a game and that was against Buffalo which was the #5 Oreb team in the country last year (i.e. they get after it). A front court of Houstan-Williams/Diabate-Dickinson will be plenty capable of rebounding.  Especially when Jones is getting in there and grabbing double digit boards!!

Johns only had one defensive rebound last night in 27 minutes.  One!!! His presence out there is killing Michigan.

mi93

November 17th, 2021 at 12:49 PM ^

Like they say in football, the game slows down over time.  Right now the freshmen and Jones haven't stepped up to college (or P5) speed.  It'll come.

I like the thoughts of the first two commenters.  Reshuffle the minutes a little for a few games.

Good luck with the kids, Brian.

bronxblue

November 17th, 2021 at 12:58 PM ^

Good luck with the kids.

This was a game where UM played about as badly as they could offensively for long spurts and then made a series of dumb plays on defense and still almost won.  It's a young team, and they're figuring out their lineups as best as possible.  Johns is who he is, and maybe he'll turn it around but he's had years to do so and expecting this horse to morph into a zebra at some point feels unlikely.  Jones will get better; like Smith he's figuring out what he can and can't do at this level, but I think he'll be solid.  Houstan is a defensive liability who can't shoot right now, but it's also 3 games into a career so obviously more patience.  But otherwise it feels like a team that is going to be janky for a while before, likely, turning it on in conference play.  I'm interested to see how they bounce back against UNLV in a weird road game after midnight.  UNLV beat a bad Cal team so they've at least played a P5 program with P5-ish talent, and they're 3-0 as well.  I think they'll come out strong.

BuddhaBlue

November 17th, 2021 at 1:08 PM ^

This team is going to take awhile to jell, longer than most expected. There's going to be a few losses to teams with experience and P6 level talent

Key will be to get the not-yet-dependable-but-experienced guys like Jones, Johns and TWill going, they should be ready to take a leap before the freshmen, as talented as they are, we have also seen how raw they are

The team will get it going, I trust in the coaching and the talent level, but simply not enough experience in general and time together because it's game 3

TrueBlue2003

November 17th, 2021 at 1:13 PM ^

Great write up.  I had the same feeling about Brooks.  He also was the guy that calmly and confidently snapped a scoreless drought in the first half when M was stuck on 15 for a while when he drained a jumper.

One thing missing in this story arc is the fact that he came in as a confident freshman and won the starting PG role over grad transfer Jaaron Simmons and Sophomore Zavier Simpson only to lose it about 8 games later as Simpson came into his own.  Seems like it took him a year and half to get his confidence back.  I remember in the 2018-19 season saying that for some players its hard to come off the bench and know you're going to get 1-2 threes cold and you put so much pressure on yourself to make that one shot because you know you have to to get more minutes.  My guess is he had to work through that.

And he's been a great leader/glue guy/three and D guy but last night, yup, he was clearly one of the two players that were head and shoulders playing better than the rest.  I was like wow, Eli is a very good player right now.

As for the rest of the team here are my bullets (er, numbers/Deuteronomy):

1. I'm glad you brought up Oakland last year.  I thought about that game as well last night.  For perspective, that Oakland game was scored a 49 (out of 100) on Bart Torvik.  That is baaaaaad.  Luckily the opponent was so bad we escaped with a win, but Chaundee was 1-10 (!!!!!!) from three, Smith had 3 TOs and 4 fouls in a terrible 18 minutes.  It looked like the transfers weren't adjusting and I even wondered if the previous season was a Wile E. Coyote year and that Michigan had lost the Beilien discipline (they had 20 turnovers against Oakland!!!).

But it was a blip and the transfers adjusted and were just fine.  Michigan's game score last night was an 88.  It wasn't even a bad game.  They lost a close game to a good team.  It's ok. There's a lot of room for improvement like:

2. Jones needs to realize that he doesn't need to be a hero and get the steal, just play sound defense.  He'll adjust, the coaches are too good not to coach that out of his game.

3. Brandon Johns is a mess and clearly is who he is at this point, but given the depth at his position, I think it's easily fixable.  Juwan just needs to do the difficult thing and bench the senior.  Start Williams and put him on the opponents best wing player so you can hide Houstan a bit more the way we did with Duncan.  I'm also not as down on Houstan's defense as most.  He's a true freshman usually checking the opponents best player.  He's not ready for that yet but he'll be fine.

4. Speaking of defense, mannnn it's obvious that Hunter Dickinson is not going to be close to a viable NBA defender.  He allowed at least three layups to guards - guys a foot shorter than him! - that just took it right at him and he couldn't alter shots.  He has the Moe Wagner syndrome where he simply cannot contest shots. Sometimes I'm left wondering if the ball goes right through his arm as if he's a ghost because it's like how did that guy shoot over you?

What an incredible offensive player though.  And his size means he can keep posts away from the basket enough to do well on his own man, but wow, awful help side rim protector.

5. I get the Kobe Bufkin hype.  That guy is probably going to be an absolute star.  That drive he had for the layup and near and1 was eye-popping.  Remarkable athleticism and body control.  Between he and Diabate, there is so much potential.

The pieces of this team don't fit together perfectly right now. Namely, there's a lack of wing defense (losing all of Brown, Wagner and Livers hurts a lot) but theres a ton of talent.  And I still think Houstan could be adequate, and if so, he and Williams could be fine as wing defenders.  Maybe Bufkin emerges as well.  The path to truly elite is for those guys to improve and get more minutes and Johns to drop to a 10 min per game guy.

 

GoBlue96

November 17th, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^

Agree on Hunter and I thought he could have given a little more effort for some of those rebounds late in the game.  

Disagree on Williams.  I don't see him doing anything much better than Johns.  They have the same strengths/weaknesses except he's maybe more likely to shoot more but at an even lower percentage.

TrueBlue2003

November 17th, 2021 at 3:15 PM ^

Williams is a much better wing defender (the best on the team right now) which is something Michigan is currently lacking.  He came in and shut down Jeenathan Williams of Buffalo.  Houstan isn't ready to guard the opposing teams best wing and Johns isn't capable.

And yes, Williams won't be as timid on offense.  I also don't agree that he'll shoot a worse percentage.  Williams is 4-8 on the season from 3.  Even if you take out the banked and1, he's 3-7.  His shot does look much improved.

UM Indy

November 17th, 2021 at 1:35 PM ^

"By crunch time there were only two players I wanted on the court, which is bad because basketball generally requires five."  In response to this assertion, I give you Coach Norman Dale.  "My team is on the court."  

Blue Vet

November 17th, 2021 at 1:40 PM ^

Confidence is a weird thing.

We all know the Tom Brady Saga™ and see how he's a throwing, walking-almost-running embodiment of confidence. But what if he doesn't land in the right spot for him as a pro, if that pass in the snow playoff game was ruled a fumble? Does he still succeed thanks in part because of his confidence or does he become another one of those athletes drafted ahead of him who are left telling themselves and others that they too could have been stars?

Does Michael Jordan become MICHAEL JORDAN if he misses that shot in the NCAA championship? Does Jordan Poole become a major contributor as a pro if he misses that playoff shot?

How does an Eli Brooks emerge? Is he a unicorn or an example of how hard work, innate intelligence, strong background, and—yes—confidence combine in stellar play?

WalterWhite_88

November 17th, 2021 at 1:52 PM ^

I'm worried about Houstan. All the hype about him was that he was a sharp-shooting, knock-down 3 point shooter... but his shot so far has looked way off... reminds me more of the way Franz shot 3's. An inconsistent stroke that leads to around a 30% 3 pt percentage. Hopefully it's just a funk and he'll snap out of it.

stephenrjking

November 17th, 2021 at 1:55 PM ^

The only thing colder than Michigan's shooting last night was El Tri's flop at Iceteca in Edmonton.

That said, disappointing to look so flawed in specific areas, but there's a lot of room to grow here. Brooks and Houstan are still getting used to the environment and their roles in the team, and Kobe Bufkin is very early on. You have to hope/figure someone will emerge and really start to establish their role. At this point last season Hunter wasn't even starting.

BJJ is more of a concern because this is exactly what he was in his toughest stretches in previous years, except now he's playing starter's minutes and it hasn't really clicked for him. 

Yet, anyway. Yes, he probably is what he is. But Duncan Robinson was a "he is what he is" guy on defense as a senior and look what happened to him

TruBluMich

November 17th, 2021 at 2:00 PM ^

I was begging for Eli to take over the PG duties from Jones about 10 minutes into the game.  As for Houstan, I can not remember the last time I watched a train wreck on defense like that.  But the good news is that it is fixable (I hope), and the young man clearly has a ton of talent.  Hopefully, he stops letting "the last mistake" create more mistakes.  It just appears that he is trying too hard to make up for it with a spectacular play.

AlbanyBlue

November 17th, 2021 at 2:12 PM ^

Adversity early in the season is fine. Assuming this team learns from it -- and I think they will -- then it's OK. Just be ready with the right lineups, subs, and aggressiveness for Big Ten play.

ALeafOnTheWind

November 17th, 2021 at 2:57 PM ^

I'm a deeply pessimistic person, and even I can't understand why some people seem to think the sky is falling already. It's college basketball. They're a young team, they don't have a lot of minutes together, they'll move on and get better. Thanks for the write-up!

mgoecon

November 17th, 2021 at 5:45 PM ^

Last night looked like an 11-seed upsetting a 6-seed in the NCAA Tournament.

One thing that jumped out to me during the game was missing a lot of opportunities to get buckets by good passing, both in transition (the one from Caleb to Kobe was exceptional) and in the pick-n-roll. I’d love to see this team develop the lob pass to Diabate and Dickinson.

This season is gonna be a bumpy road, but such is life. It’ll be interesting to watch their development.

Brayden09

November 17th, 2021 at 7:22 PM ^

Even before last nights loss.... I think anyone who watched Michigan last year can feel a leadership difference in this team. It lacks cohesion. It lacks crispness. I'm not even trying to be the negative M fan. I want to re-adjust my expectations. I see now Jones is not an immediate replacement at PG. I feel that has more weight than even Johns laying eggs to start. Can Jones get there? I hope so or maybe one of the talented guys behind him even. 

PublicSector

November 17th, 2021 at 10:57 PM ^

I'm sorry for a negative comment on a freshman who is high school age but I would guess that was the worst game Houstan has ever played in his life. I think there's evidence he's going to be really good and may never have a game that bad ever again. He played 39 minutes - just way too much given his production. On the other hand Bufkin only played 9 minutes and flashed some brilliance - looks exciting too, that extra pump fake at the rim around the shot blocker was awesome - get 20-25 minutes I think he'll make a difference.

ca_prophet

November 18th, 2021 at 3:17 AM ^

Kids generally bounce back much faster than adults; hopefully yours are already shedding their illnesses and feeling better.

Before the season, one of the big risks called out for this team was that our outside shooting never came together.  Last night we saw what that might look like.

In the long run, I'm sure we'll be fine - talent will out, and we have the coaches to maximize it - but I foresee some rough patches while we work out a defensive rotation and balance out our outside shooters.

 

HollywoodHokeHogan

November 18th, 2021 at 12:49 PM ^

Houstan will improved markedly, it’s the older guys that are a concern.  Jones probably just needs to get comfortable.  I’ll bet he’s a high foul rate dude (for a guard) all season, but stuff like the 10 second call other moments where he looks lost will be become much less frequent.

I can’t justify starting John’s over Williams at this point.  Williams is younger and hence has more potential to improve (and help us again next year), plus he seems like a better shooter, which we need.  I’m not sure how much more we can expect Johns to develop, and right now he’s not consistently good/solid.  Williams at least has the potential to be that.  You can always give Johns more run off the bench if he’s playing well, which he is capable of.  
 

I know it’s temping to psychologize Johns and talk about maybe it’s about confidence or pressure, but that’s a fool’s errand.  For whatever reason, he just hasn’t played well.  Last night he was uncomfortable on the perimeter and frustratingly skittish under the basket. He isn’t a mid-range maven so that pretty much exhausts the possibilities.