Hello: Vincent Gray
On Sunday, Michigan added a commitment from three-star Rochester (MI) Adams defensive back Vincent Gray, a one-time Mizzou pledge who looked like he was headed to West Virginia before the home-state Wolverines came calling.
Gray's recruitment took off in December, when he added his Michigan offer and picked up interest from some big-time programs:
Gray seemed set to sign with West Virginia during the Early Signing Period, but that quickly changed when Michigan offered a scholarship just days before. Now he is waiting into January, where an official visit with the Wolverines is likely. He has stayed quiet on other plans, but word is other programs like Penn State, Stanford, and more have inquired.
He committed on that official visit, right around when offers from Oregon and UCLA came in. Gray is the 20th commit in the 2018 class and the fifth defensive back, joining a very lanky group of Myles Sims, Gemon and German Green, and Sammy Faustin.
GURU RATINGS
Note: added state rankings. I probably should've done this a long time ago and the elimination of Scout added some room. It's listed after positional rank. Also added Rivals rating (FAQ here).
Rivals | ESPN | 247 | 247 Comp |
3*, 5.7, #56 CB, #14 MI |
3*, 76, #82 CB, #25 MI |
3*, 86, #68 CB, #19 MI, #695 Ovr |
3*, #60 CB, #17 MI, #686 Ovr |
Rivals is most bullish on Gray, giving him their highest three-star rating and placing him 17 position ranking spots away from four-star status. On the other end, ESPN presumably fired off a rating when they added his profile yesterday; raise your hand if you think Michigan just offered the 25th-best prospect in the state.
Gray certainly fits the mold of a Don Brown defensive back. He's listed at 6'2", 179-180 pounds at ESPN and 247; Rivals has a probably outdated figure of 6'1", 165. Like everyone else, Gray will get thrown into the pile of defensive back and the coaches will figure out where he best fits between cornerback and safety/nickel; my guess is he'll be the latter.
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SCOUTING
While it took a while for Gray's recruitment to take off, he's been on the radar since at least his junior year, when he appeared at some camps. He had some of the best testing numbers at Penn State's 2016 elite camp, per 247's Sean Fitz:
Vincent Gray - CB - Rochester (Mich.) Adams (2018)
Another long corner (6-0, 163) who was at the top of the charts across the board among 2018 defensive backs.
That was with the likes of 2018 OSU signee Marcus Hooker (Malik's little brother) in attendance, so Gray had some stiff competition.
Gray caught the attention of Irish247's Tom Loy at last April's Opening Cleveland regional:
The Rochester (Mich.) Adams three-star cornerback was a pleasant surprise on the day. Gray isn’t some midwest recruit without any offers. Iowa State, Cincinnati, Purdue, Syracuse and others have offered. However, he’s still missing that marquee, top-tier offer. Physically, I like where Gray is at. He’s a legit 6-2, 180 pounds. He’s put together well. He showed good coverage skills and an ability to get up in the air and high point the football. He’s someone to keep an eye on moving forward.
He also earned mention among the underclassmen standouts from 247's Steve Wiltfong at the United Stars Chicago Showcase, where he also earned the attention of Scout's Allen Trieu:
Rochester (Mich.) Adams' Vincent Gray is a long, smooth kid who had a good day.
His play earned him some bigger offers; Kentucky, Mizzou, Boston College, and Virgnia came forward during or shortly after camp season, and Gray committed to Mizzou in July. That gave their Rivals site a chance to evaluate Gray's junior film:
Gray is a long, lanky corner with good ball skills. Has excellent height and arm length and uses both well, as he is physical with opposing receivers. Should only get more so as he fills out his frame. Has good speed, but not a burner. Has very good feet and hips and accelerates well.
My biggest concern with him is his change of direction. He has to do a better job getting out of his backpedal. Is a sound tackler downfield, but doesn't step up and make plays around the line of scrimmage.
His ability to play the ball in the air is exceptional. Has very good hands and instincts, should come up with his share of interceptions.
It'll be interesting to see what Michigan decides to do with him. He could be a Jeremy Clark-like corner who uses his size to make up for average speed/agility, or the coaches could decide his ball skills and downfield tackling play better at safety.
Trieu caught up with Gray's coach to get his assessment following his commitment:
“He’s been great,” Rochester Adams head coach Tony Patritto said. “He’s been on varsity since his sophomore year and has obviously been a good representation of our program and our whole team. We like to play fast on defense and he is an integral key to that, because we can put him on any team’s best wide receiver and felt good about playing him man to man the whole game. He was very selfless. He played offense this year and became a real good dual threat. We did not throw the ball a ton, but as a blocker, he was really, really good, and that selfless nature really stood out for me as a coach.”
He's a good candidate to make an early impact on special teams while he's working his way towards the two-deep in the secondary.
OFFERS
Gray eventually wound up with a pretty solid offer sheet that includes Oregon, UCLA, Army, Boston College, Cal, Central Michigan, Duke, Iowa State, Kentucky, Mizzou, Purdue, Syracuse, Temple, Virginia, Washington State, Western Michigan, and West Virginia, among others.
HIGH SCHOOL
Rochester Adams has not been a major talent producer in the state. Adams in the second three-star prospect from Adams in the Rivals database, joining Michigan State tight end Matt Sokol. A couple others have signed with Central Michigan. Former walk-on receiver Joe Reynolds, one half of JDK and Rey, is the only other Wolverine in the Bentley database listed as hailing from Adams.
STATS
MaxPreps lists Gray with 19 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 INT, and a fumble recovery in eight games as a junior, as well as 16 receptions for 184 yards as a receiver. No senior stats were readily available.
FAKE 40 TIME
Gray has SPARQ-verified combine numbers: 4.76 40 (zero FAKEs), 4.26 shuttle, 33.4-inch vertical, 38.5-foot powerball throw. Those numbers indicate he's probably better suited to safety than corner unless he plays faster than he tests.
VIDEO
Senior highlights:
Junior highlights and single-game reels can be found on his Hudl page.
PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE
Gray will be in a pile of young, talented defensive backs taken one class after the coaches added five freshmen to the secondary. As one of the more raw prospects, not to mention one facing a significant jump in competition, he's likely to redshirt unless he's a standout on special teams. Before seeing the field, he'll have to determine if he's a corner or a safety/nickel; the quicker path to playing time is at the latter.
I like Gray's senior tape. Taken in conjunction with his late offers, he looks like a player who's got a good chance of exceeding his middling recruiting hype.
UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS
Michigan is now at 20 commits in a class that should add a handful more prospects. Gray's recruitment should close out any need for another member of the secondary. The coaches will focus on a select group of top targets that includes OTs Nicholas Petit-Frere and Jarrett Patterson, WRs JaMarr Chase and Chris Olave, and DTs Michael Thompson and Rick Sandidge.
Here's the class as it currently stands:
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:24 PM ^
GO BLUE
January 22nd, 2018 at 9:45 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:38 PM ^
He's got good hands as a receiver.
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:38 PM ^
Is it sad that I'd be happy if we got even one or two of those guys?
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:43 PM ^
no because half those guys listed are not a real option
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:48 PM ^
One or two is the most realistic. Patterson might actually be the only one.
One of the DT's would be a nice add.
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:19 PM ^
and Anderson, the grad transfer OT. Anderson is visiting next weekend and the news about Reese has turned more positive.
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:38 PM ^
are the coaches really still focusing on thompson and sandige? i haven't heard those names in months.
January 22nd, 2018 at 8:54 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:47 PM ^
I like all these long DBs... I just hope some of them can run. I think that's our problem at saftey. We don't have the guys that can run or have the quicks to stay with a 6 foot slot.
Should be a good long group.
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^
"MaxPreps lists Adams with 19 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 INT"
MaxPreps lists GRAY with 19 tackles...
January 22nd, 2018 at 3:58 PM ^
Sigh.
Fixed, thanks.
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:04 PM ^
Erm, one more?
"Rochester Adams has not been a major talent producer in the state. Adams in the second three-star prospect from Adams in the Rivals database, joining Michigan State tight end Matt Sokol."
Maybe "Gray is"?
I hate that I noticed. Sorry Ace.
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^
He's a bit of a project, but he's got good raw size for what Don Brown wants. Glad he signed.
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:44 PM ^
OK, hate to be a stickler, and obvsly home state Michigan is NOT Mizzou or WV, but...
he hasn't signed, not yet.
Just "committed" so far...
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:14 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:54 PM ^
And the bar for happiness keeps getting lower and lower. Meanwhile go look at how Bama, Clemson, UGA, OSU, and PSU are going to close. I expected so much more in Year 3 under JH. Maybe that's my own fault.
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:57 PM ^
We get it, you don't like this. Maybe just let that be until you have something new and/or interesting to say.
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:57 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^
It's not your own fault you suffer from OCPD (obsessive-compulsive posting disorder). It's an affliction that anybody can acquire, but the good news is that it's amenable to therapy and medication.
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:24 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 7:43 PM ^
Harbaugh may have to turn away 4 and 5 star kids there will be so many wanting to come here. Face it, it takes a while to bring back a program after 10 years of spotty recruiting and player development. But things will improve.
January 22nd, 2018 at 9:59 PM ^
Actually history shows with the right coach it doesn't. Most UM coaches have been able to fall out of bed and sign a top 10 class, so this year is incredibly disappointing. The fact that JH went out and hired guys like Enos, Washington, and Moore shows he probably agrees.
January 22nd, 2018 at 11:44 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 11:48 PM ^
They are tall and lanky, good for going single coverage in our secondary.
January 23rd, 2018 at 12:44 AM ^
January 23rd, 2018 at 11:38 AM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 9:24 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 11:06 PM ^
No. It was always expected to be a lower rated class because of numbers but there was no inherent reason why we would miss on so many targets like Friday.
January 23rd, 2018 at 1:07 AM ^
January 23rd, 2018 at 11:56 AM ^
Just looking at the guys who were offered:
Kamryn Babb, Emil Ekiyor, Luke Ford, Brevin Jordan, Will Mallory, Marquan McCall, Micah Parson, Jeremy Ruckert, Rick Sandidge, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Michael Thompson, and Taron Vincent.
It's not just about stars. I think the class needed OGs and DTs and they aren't well represented. I would also have liked to see Sampson in the class.
January 23rd, 2018 at 8:33 AM ^
Weren't you banned? I don't understand, I can see people returning under different user name after banning, but how are you back under the same one? Not mad just curious.
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:20 PM ^
Welcome back!
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:22 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:26 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:48 PM ^
that would be awesome.
Thanks Ace, good to see you back on Hello duty - hopefully there are more good tidings to write thru NSD.
January 22nd, 2018 at 4:49 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:02 PM ^
ace, how was your appointment?
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:34 PM ^
Welcome to Michigan, Vincent!
Sounds like a good athlete and talent. Another lotto ticket for the secondary. Possible coaches are doing prep work for Hill and Long going early? Just curious.
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:35 PM ^
Trust the coaches
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:42 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 6:51 PM ^
At least on the defensive side they have earned it
January 23rd, 2018 at 2:48 AM ^
I'm a little concerned about the amount of DBs they've recruited at the expense of other positions, but I'm really not worried about the rankings. As String mentioned, they've earned it. These guys obviously fit a mold that Brown is looking for. Besides, there's good reason to think Gray has a ceiling well above his current ranking.
January 23rd, 2018 at 5:41 AM ^
Probably getting a couple extra guys on campus early to prepare for the potential of Hill and/or Long entering the Draft after next season.
January 22nd, 2018 at 5:50 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^
January 22nd, 2018 at 7:41 PM ^
Not that I am in the Maizen camp of always bishing but it is most annoying when people keep saying "trust Staff evals" over the star system knowing full well stars correlates to actual wins.
Wins ... something Harbaugh to date has few of against his main competitors or in Bowls. Games that matter ....
1-2 Bowls
0-3 OSU
1-2 MSU
2-1 PSU
1-1 Wisc
2-1 Colorado/Utah/Florida Regular Season
7 - 10 in games that mattered. Take away pathetic Florida .. 5-10.
... so I say there is a ton of criticism that is quite justified over the 2018 Class and Harbaugh's Coaching / Staff since 2015.
3-0 v Rutgers is not something to even be remotely proud of.
January 22nd, 2018 at 7:47 PM ^
You're not proud of being 3-0 against our main rival?
January 22nd, 2018 at 7:47 PM ^
I have inside information that Blue1995nyc IS in the Maizen camp. He's always bishing. Always.
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