MSU Suing ESPN Over FOIA Request
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2017/05/02/msu-sues…
Basically, ESPN filed a FOIA request with MSU "seeking all police reports containing allegations of sexual assault since December 10, 2016," and MSU withheld some of the documents, claiming that the Ingham County Prosecutor specifically asked that those names not be released until the decision to bring charges (or not) has come. They're obviously seeking the names of the three accused/suspected football players in the long-lingering January case.
I am not an expert on FOIA statutes, but it seems unlikely to me that MSU will win this case. Can a large state institution really withhold information because a local government official asks them to do so? I could be wrong, but that seems not right to me...
What the fuck is the deal with this case? At first it seemed like MSU was being fair to the defendants, but now it's just kind of ridiculous.
Has anyone seen a case where it took this long to produce names?
"Has anyone seen a case where it took this long to produce names?"
Yeah: Wonders Hall. We all know who did it, but the names never officially came out.
At what point do they do what's fair for the victim?
This doesn't really have to do with "winning" the case. MSU is basically asking a judge to tell them what to do because they're stuck in the middle. They're not seeking compensation.
ESPN won a similar case against them in 2015 that set precedent. However, now the Ingham County Prosecutor is trying to keep the files sealed until the investigation is over.
My personal opinion is that the new prosecutor is in over her head. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt at first considering who she replaced, but this is just ridiculous at this point.
Yeah. It's not MSU trying to get compensation for a loss, but simply asking the court for an exemption to the usual FOIA requirements that ESPN already successfully sued them over. And in this case, I don't completely blame MSU - they either have to comply with the FOIA and possibly divulge information relevant to an ongoing investigation, or fail to comply and (probably) loss another lawsuit with ESPN and have to pay damages.
I think you are both right. Of course, this case - or one virtually identical to it - has already been litigated between MSU and ESPN, and MSU lost. Why do they think this time will be different? It seems to me that there is a fine line between "we want guidance so we do the right thing" and "how can we drag this out as long as possible and hopefully keep more stories out of the news". Let's face it, 3 months is a long, long time for a prosecutor to decide on bringing charges, and with everything else MSU has going on that is so public, I am sure they would love to see this one just go away with no charges, the players back in school and on the team, etc.
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They're playing CYA... at the expense of the Michigan tax payers.
Yo_Blue never said they were. It's not arguable that it isn't at the expense of the taxpayer. There is literally no one else that provides funding for that office (or the court). Whether the taxes go up or down, or not, isn't the point. The real issue is that it diverts already appropriated (scarce) dollars (and human resources) away from other cases.
FWIW, it's possible that part of their funding is derived from fines. California has jacked up the penalty for traffic violations and dedicated part of the ncrease to various parts of the criminal justice system.
The Ingham County Prosecutor's office is starting to look REALLY bad. There is a victim out there who has been waiting three months for them to act on this alleged assault case, plus we learned that they were part of sweeping under the rug a very serious allegation against Larry Nassar way back in 2014.
The Ingham county prosecutor Carol Siemons is controlling this and for what reason?. Is she foul, incompetent or being told what to do by some outside influence. To me there is just to much smoke to not issue warrants. How long did it take to file charges against Robertson?. This case stinks to high heaven and Carol Siemons needs to be called to task. I have a feeling Carol Siemons may be the one investigated before this one is done. Charges should havebeen filed months ago.
I don't think she would have gotten the job if it was over her head, too much similarly educated competition. More likely she didn't have a whole lot of choices.
Similarly educated does not mean that the person has the requisite experience to do the job.
Carol Anne Keane would have them locked up already.
If they really wanted to do a story they should request all records back 5-10 years to look for a larger trend at MSU. (IF one exists)
Sooo...... what are the names?
And they'll probably suit up next season with no major reprecussions.
This may be red-locked but I have the code for that. Leading Receiver from last year - Highest 247 rated recruit from 2016 - Cass Tech Safety that rhymes with "chance"
Someone's jealous cat log on?
There's some people who are really tired of the 3 and 9 jokes on this board and neg whenever they see the joke made. I'm not sure how many exactly or which users, but I'm pretty sure there's like 3-9 of them.
Damn near spit my food out on that one!!!
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Or 23-32?
I am pretty sure my cats would take a flamethrower as opposed to a hose to anyone and anything anyway, but it certainly was not my cats, all three of which are currently occupied with finding a suitable manner of death for the dog.
this is such a great gif. i'm a little biased since i have a 100 pound black lab myself.
me too!!!!!!
I believe the FOIA officer in EL is simply citing municipal code 3:9 in denying the request to release.
will the 3-10 jokes be the new meme?
A quick review of Michigan's FOIA indicates that such records need not be turned over it doing so might interfere with a police investigation.
The Lansing PD offical report. the MSU internal police report, the Lansing Journal investigative report AND the Freep's crack investigative report all in one place for your reading enjoyment.
At the "shape" website.
As one gets ole it is easier to get out to shape than in shape.
Especially at 72.......so I look at most of the guys from my MLaw group who subscribe to the former rather than the latter.
I really admire the women who work to keep it slim after child birth.
Why has'nt MSU not been charged with, Failure to control by NCAA. These sex crimes have to stop. What a Cluster Fuck!
My eyes! MY EYES!!! OUCH!!!!
Don't even get him started about his shift key.
The previous sheriff lost a bunch of evidence in previous cases. It's kind of a mess in Ingham County.