Former Michigan OL Dan Samuelson Latest Victim of Awful NCAA Rules
This was posted yesterday by Jake Butt. Is there a worse American sports institution than the NCAA? I'm specifying American because FIFA seems to take the cake internationally.
Posted by a former teammate. Can the NCAA get anything right? Probably not. Common sense? Zero. pic.twitter.com/IK1ZT8rFev
— jake butt (@JBooty_88) December 7, 2016
December 8th, 2016 at 9:52 AM ^
This will definitely not go viral, and it definitely will not result in the NCAA reversing this decision. Nope, no way.
December 8th, 2016 at 6:42 PM ^
My thoughts exactly...here comes the pressure, as it should.
What, NCAA...you think he's just getting his brains bashed in on the scout team for fun?
HE'S ON THE OFFICIAL ROSTER!!
http://www.emueagles.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=7238&path=football
Every walk-on, every scout team player, every team manager should be on the flight to the Bahamas.
You don't want to pay players? Okay...fine, that's another topic for another day. But use that money that people want to use to pay players to take care of shit like THIS! (note for those that don't know...the NCAA pays/reimburses for travel and expenses for postseason play...all sports. They can't afford to bring everyone just like they started paying more for families to travel in post season play after Calipari complained).
December 8th, 2016 at 9:53 AM ^
but yes, totally ridiculous. I said it there and I'll say it here: Jake Butt would make a great NCAA President some day!!
December 8th, 2016 at 9:57 AM ^
Good call.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:00 AM ^
a requirement to be NCAA President that you were a student athlete in college.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:59 AM ^
That seems far too logical for the NCAA
December 8th, 2016 at 11:08 AM ^
than a bunch of boobs.
December 8th, 2016 at 9:56 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 11:04 AM ^
We need more of these things to come out. I was hoping the Power 5 would blow up the NCAA and start something more modern and beneficial to all.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:00 AM ^
Back as an undergrad at CMU. We had to buy our class book and the NCAA rule book. I've never read something so complicated and non-sensical in my life. The professor almost had us buy the book as a quasi joke to understand how ridiculous the organization is.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:04 AM ^
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December 8th, 2016 at 10:52 AM ^
I would suggest that the rules are complicated for the sake of gaining control over student-athletes. Most student-athletes have neither the inclination nor the skill set to painfully go through the rules and digest the nuances and subtleties of the language.
Not so simple answer is to create four conferences with 80 or some other number of teams, devise your own rules that are sensible and present same in easily understood language and tell the NCAA to go stick it where the sun don't shine. The organization's time has come and gone.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^
can't hire representation who could understand the NCAA rule books to help student athletes do what's best for them.
Wait a second, it's like these people making millions of dollars off of kids who have little representation and little power are making rules to keep it that way.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:12 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^
Sports Law with Adam Epstein...oh yeah.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:05 AM ^
Sorry, but I'm not getting the outrage. IS there a reason why people think players should not have to spend two semesters at a school before fully participating in NCAA sports, or is this just one of those "NCAA, therefor bad" knee-jerk reactions?
December 8th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 10:28 AM ^
I think players should be allowed to transfer (at least the first time, and am open to considering it every time they transfer) without let or hindrance. That's the way it is for all but four NCAA sports 9this is the one-time waiver).
That isn't how the NCAA has set things up for football, however. No first-time-transfer waiver there. I don't like that, but can live with that disagreement short of I M OUTRAGE status. Why can't others? That's my question. What is so outrageous here?
December 8th, 2016 at 10:30 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 10:36 AM ^
Because the penalty is literally this:
"Thou must go home and hang out with thy friends and family over winter break."
Ouch. He's not being sent to prison or forced to do hard labor or pay a fine. He has to chill out, drink a beer, and watch the game on TV. It's a penalty in the same way getting suspended from high school is a penalty. "Oh, you mean I can't sit in a classroom all day and have crappy food, so I have to go home and play video games all day while eating pizza and drinking Mountain Dew?"
December 8th, 2016 at 10:46 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 11:02 AM ^
As opposed to "playing video games all day while eating pizza and drinking Mountain Dew," my dad decided it was a better idea that I go to work with him & spend the day as the maintenance guy's personal assistant. I was not compensated.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 10:10 AM ^
I think it's pretty clear we're talking about transfers.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:29 AM ^
He's not a freshman. Ever heard of transfers? He's a transfer. Are you outraged that they allow transfers, or that they don't, or what?
December 8th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
To me, that's the wrong approach to the question. The correct approach is "Why should a student have to spend two full semesters before participating in sports again?" It's penalizing the student for moving to a potentially better situation.
Also, as Dan said, he isn't allowed to even travel with the team? What is the reason for that?
December 8th, 2016 at 10:17 AM ^
"Penalizing" is a word thrown around too much, in my opinion. It's not a penalty. It's a rule put in place to prevent mass amounts of transfers that would throw the whole organization/school system into a tizzy.
When players decide to play sports in the NCAA, they acknowledge that they have 5 years to play 4, and that any transfer prior to graduation will require them to sit out for a year.
I talked about not being able to travel elsewhere, but bowl costs are ridiculous anyway, and the price of going to a bowl usually puts a program in the red, anyway. Why add thousands and thousands of dollars to bowl/road game costs by bringing along transfers, walk-ons, etc. who can't participate?
December 8th, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^
Except nobody would be forcing EMU to bring him. It should be the schools choice, not the NCAA. If he can't play and the school decides him traveling isnt worth the cost they can say no, if they think having him there benefits the team he can travel with them as a member of the team. Teams also often bring injured players who can't play, Peppers was at the bowl game last year. It should be a school decision.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:47 AM ^
That's a fair point, but as a taxpayer and/or tuition-paying student, I don't necessarily think we should be paying for a bunch of extra players to go to the Bahamas, California, Florida, etc. If you leave that up to the school, then that gets passed on to someone else until it trickles down to 72-year-old Eleanor Smith who pays state taxes in Ludington for someone like Samuelson to go to the beach.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^
If I'm a taxpayer and or tuition paying student I don't want the football team going to a bowl if that is how you look at it. You want to help 72 year old Eleanor Smith deal with schools having to gaurantee ticket sales and work your way down from there. Especially since this rule isn't to protect Eleanor Smith, its to make transfers less appealing by making the period of transfer as miserable as possible to give power to the schools over the players.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:02 AM ^
I agree. Bowls are bad business. But they could be worse by wasting even more money on sending a bunch of extra players to them.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:10 AM ^
I think you're reaching here. It isn't the NCAA's job to legislate how taxpayer dollars are spent, especially since this rule would apply to private schools as well.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:19 AM ^
I agree. But there's very little reason to take players, there's a reason for restrictions for transfers, and it makes fiscal sense. The only downside is that select players don't get to take a plane ride to a tropical location and spend a week at the beach.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:28 AM ^
I think its a reach that its a financial decision, if that were true injured guys wouldn't be allowed to travel either by rule. Its a rule designed to punish transfers. Defend it on those grounds and we can agree to disagree about whether its right for the NCAA to control the movement of kids attempting to do what is best for them and their future, but don't try to frame this as the NCAA looking out for the taxpayers of the state of michigan, they don't give a fuck about that and neither does EMU.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
I have addressed numerous points - financial and otherwise - throughout this thread.
December 8th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 1:11 PM ^
Except it's not. Money matters. Maybe it's not the deciding factor, but it's a factor.
December 8th, 2016 at 1:05 PM ^
This is incorrect. It IS the college presidents' job to decide how taxpayer dollars are spent. This is just another example.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^
Nobody's getting "fucked." He gets 4 chances to go to a bowl game, just like anybody else.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:54 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 3:21 PM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^
If that's your definition of getting fucked, then get in line. A lot of us had to "work for free" to get our "education" so we can get jobs later. As I said above, it's in football and law and teaching and being an electrician.
December 8th, 2016 at 3:55 PM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 4:05 PM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 1:42 PM ^
to remain a part of the team right through to the bowl.
December 8th, 2016 at 10:49 AM ^
December 8th, 2016 at 12:00 PM ^
The words are fine. The NCAA uses the rule to discourage transfers. Penalty: a disadvantage or handicap imposed on a player or team, typically for infringement of rules.
So maybe not the perfect language, but I think we all know the deal here.
December 8th, 2016 at 11:20 AM ^
This is comical coming from the supposed coach.
Well the opposite of a penalty is a reward, as in guys who have busted their ass for an entire year in the weight room, class room, film room, meeting rooms, etc. It's an experience that many will never forget regardless of if they are particpating in the game or not.
Your reasoning is silly and childish at best. The guy who busted his tail for you all season long on scout team should in your words "go home and play video games, drink a beer, watch the game, hang with buddies" instead of be with the team that he gives sweat equity to? Come on coach, youre better than that.