OT: Russell Wilson proposes NFL overtime games be decided by kicks. How would you do it?
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/russell-wilson-doesnt-like-ties-has-a…
Russell Wilson suggested that tie games be decided by a single field goal attempt from the 35 yard line. You win if you make it. You lose if you don't. I'm not sure if he was referring to games tied at the end of overtime or games tied at the end of regulation.
How do you think overtime should work in the NFL (or any level of football for that matter)?
My suggestion, which has its obvious flaws:
Use college rules (trading possessions indefinitely) with the following changes:
You cannot kick a field goal.
You cannot throw a forward pass.
You have to go for two after any touchdown.
Possessions start at the opposing team's ten yard line.
This would be a brutal, old-fashioned slog, which I like.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:28 PM ^
College overtime is fantastic, no need to change it, imo.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:49 PM ^
The only negative I have against it is that it doesn't involve kick returns. To totally remove that aspect of the kicking game is a real problem IMO. But college overtime certainly is exciting.
October 27th, 2016 at 8:31 AM ^
I think kick returns is one of the things they would like to reduce, especially in overtime when players more likely to be tired and get injured.
October 27th, 2016 at 12:13 PM ^
Then just get rid of them all together.
Let teams start at the 20 after every score.
The kicking game is a major part of football, and to completely remove it from OT is disappointing, especially to teams with solid return men.
October 26th, 2016 at 5:39 PM ^
Let me get this straight, Russell Wilson plays a horrible game, doesnt like the outcome of his play, makes an asinine statement that we should change the rules. Then we debate whether we should. WTF are we mere sheep???
October 26th, 2016 at 5:46 PM ^
...we're no more or less than people BS-ing about sports. You can take it or leave it, and I don't mean that to be a hostile statement.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:30 PM ^
After that disaster of a game, with chip shots missed by any and all kickers in uniform for both teams...
Wilson wants more kicks?
I mean, seriously. I was at the m00n game, and I'm still convinced this weekend's Seahawks-Cardinals game was the worst football game I've ever watched.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:35 PM ^
October 26th, 2016 at 9:56 PM ^
were trying to call it a good defensive game, but o Lord it was totally offensive.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:30 PM ^
your version of overtime would last longer than regulation
October 26th, 2016 at 3:33 PM ^
I would want to reserve the right to change it. It could be a slow-moving, injury-plagued disaster or an inspiring contest of will - or both.
October 27th, 2016 at 8:28 AM ^
Or maybe take all of these rules ideas, put them in a hat, and then draw which OT rules apply for that game only. That would make the coin flip and obligatory explanation of overtime SO much more interesting than it is now.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:31 PM ^
I say normal OT rules, but each team can only punt once. After that, they have to go for it on fourth down.
October 26th, 2016 at 4:08 PM ^
Maybe even no punts allowed at all. Teams would want to start on defense which would add a whole new dynamic to NFL OT.
October 26th, 2016 at 4:12 PM ^
October 26th, 2016 at 9:58 PM ^
This would be interesting to see a bunch of 4 and over on downs's in the middle of the field until someone gets a big play to win it.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:32 PM ^
October 26th, 2016 at 3:34 PM ^
October 26th, 2016 at 5:33 PM ^
Oh well nevermind lol. Sorry new to this board dont pick up on all your sarcasm yet
October 26th, 2016 at 5:47 PM ^
What I proposed appeals to me, but I see its major flaws too. I thought/hoped it was a fun idea. It would be the most Big Ten of possible OT systems if nothing else.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:33 PM ^
There simply cannot be ties in football. That is absurd. College overtime is much better, though I think the starting position should be farther, like the 40 to 50 yard line.
October 26th, 2016 at 5:04 PM ^
I agree, I think a team should have to get at least 1 first down to get into field goal range.
October 27th, 2016 at 5:29 AM ^
I don't see what's wrong with ties in the NFL, but I agree college shouldn't have them. Not because of any BS thing about ties being stupid, but it's already hard enough to judge so many teams playing such disparate schedules. Ties would just muddy the waters further.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:34 PM ^
October 26th, 2016 at 3:35 PM ^
College Rules, starting at midfield.
Have to go for 2 after every TD.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:38 PM ^
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October 26th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^
I agree, but would start at the 35. Midfield would take a while on each possession. NFL has a terriby long season. Any set of overtime rules must consider the added burden of total number of plays added.
I like the 35 in the NFL because it's still a makeable FG immediately, but not a chip shot either.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:45 PM ^
LOL
You'd start at the 35 but not the 50 because those whopping fifteen more yards would extend the game too long. Got it.
October 26th, 2016 at 4:08 PM ^
October 26th, 2016 at 4:37 PM ^
Sure, on one drive it doesn't make much of a difference, but if it goes two or three overtimes, now you're talking several extra sets of downs.
October 26th, 2016 at 10:19 PM ^
NFL teams each play 16 games per year.
There were 325 overtime games through 2014 (1st 40 years of OT). That's an average of 8 OT games per year, 16 teams per year. 32 teams in the league, so on average, each team is playing 1/2 of an OT game per year. There used to be fewer teams, but even at 1 OT game per year per team, you're only adding on average 15 minutes of play on top of 16 hours of regulation time in a season.
October 26th, 2016 at 4:44 PM ^
My one concern with college OT rules is the inflated stats... I watched a 24-24 game go to 7 overtimes and the score ended up being 71-63. It'd be great for fantasy football though.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:37 PM ^
First team to score a FG wins if, and only if, it's greater than 40 yards, and the kicker does it with his off foot. After the first FG miss, the next team to reach the Red Zone wins. This will either lead to more ties, or fewer, but I don't care because I love chaos.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:37 PM ^
7 v 7 dodgeball at midfield
October 26th, 2016 at 4:37 PM ^
Yes. But between the coaches.
October 26th, 2016 at 5:17 PM ^
I can see Caldwell getting hit in the face right now, and those kinds of things...
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October 26th, 2016 at 7:09 PM ^
October 26th, 2016 at 6:08 PM ^
Now we're onto something. Imagine if Jim Harbaugh was faced with the choice between going for the win on 4th down or kicking to tie and go to overtime... in which he could personally compete in a dodgeball game.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:37 PM ^
put both 53man rosters in opposite endzones and place a ball on the 50. Blow the whistle. No rules- first team to get the ball in the opposite endzone wins.
October 26th, 2016 at 5:35 PM ^
I'd do anything to watch this
October 26th, 2016 at 8:53 PM ^
Actually thats awesome. I'll apply that as the tiebreaker in my own games from now on.
October 26th, 2016 at 9:51 PM ^
October 26th, 2016 at 3:39 PM ^
Regular season: no OT. Tie games. (I know, I know, Americans are unbelievably biased against tie games, but the game is defined as 60 minutes long. Tie games happen.)
Playoffs: Old NFL OT rules. The coin flip winner was not, contrary to popular belief, predisposed to be the winner. College OT as currently constructed is actually FAR more biased toward the coin flip winner.
Playoffs idea #2: Keep playing right through 0:00. So if I have the ball in a tie game with 0:28 seconds to go, I take my time, the clock rolls 0:00, and we keep going with only the play clock running.
Playoffs idea #3: Ryder cup style. Visiting team has to win. Tie game goes to the home team (presumably the higher seed = last Ryder Cup champion). Super Bowl is similar as the presumption goes the way of the higher ranked team, however you want to define it. Lower ranked team has to win it.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^
To back up your point in the Playoffs: section? Because I don't think anything could be more biased than giving a team the ball and potentially not letting the other team get it.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:45 PM ^
I'm looking for it now
October 26th, 2016 at 3:49 PM ^
From 2000-2007, out of 124 overtime games, only 60% of the coin flip winners ended up winning the game.
October 26th, 2016 at 3:53 PM ^
That was brought up when I looked at this before, and drove me to look at a greater sample, which led to the 59 vs 51 I talk about below. If you extend that out to the entirety of NFL OTs, it comes out to about 51%. That 8-year period was cherry-picked.
October 26th, 2016 at 4:01 PM ^
It was the same 60% from 1994 to 2011. I think that just about covers the modern NFL. College's plan may be no better, but the current NFL rules do minimize the coin flip advantage.
October 26th, 2016 at 4:05 PM ^
That's what it was. It was 50% (I think the actual difference was a single game in favor of the team winning the coin flip) until 1994, when they moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30. Before that, when the kickoff was at the 35, it was even. After that, with the kick from 30, it jumped almost 10%.
Thanks for jogging that bit of memory.
October 26th, 2016 at 5:19 PM ^
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