Officiating: IU Holding/False Starts/Targeting
I don't blame officiating for any result, and don't want to be that guy.I believe bad officiating is something both sides have to deal with. However since we won I feel this can be more objective. There are thee points I wanted to discuss and gauge reaction.
1) IU Offensive line holding. Indiana got called for holding one time in this game. (in the first half) I know their O line is very good and we got mauled up front. But in the 4Q and OT literally every Howard run to the outside, I watched the line, multiple cases where they were just grabbing our defenders, tackling, no calls. They set the edge on every outside run by grabbing our edge defender and not letting him outside. I saw coaches screaming for holding, and the broadcast mentioned it once. I guess we didn't get called for it either, officials just letting them play. Maybe im biased, have to review the game again, but I thought it was pretty blatant.
2) I've seen this mentioned on the board last night and today, IU O-line looked to be starting early almost every snap. They got called for multiple false starts, but literally almost every play they had some type of movement. In both cases the holding and false starts, I guess if you can get away with it, than why not.
3) The ejection rule for targeting needs to be eliminated immediatley, if not the entire rule itself. It's the most subjective, poorly called rule in football I've ever seen. The difference of impact between the Bolden targeting ejection vs MSU, and the hit Rudock took yesterday is expontential. If they want it to be a personal foul penalty I guess that's fine, but the impact of ejecting a player on a call that is accurate MAYBE half the time is absurd.
November 15th, 2015 at 1:30 PM ^
We all expect the ups and downs associated with officiating, especially with teams that get away with more holding - I think we are getting conditioned not to care about that anymore. The confusion with targeting is a more serious matter as the objective - player safety - is not being served. If a player is blatantly targeting, it's caught on camera, everyone can see it and replay it, but because Bolden was ejected for NOT targeting - now it seems no one wants to call it. So get rid of the rule or at least modify it, so many of these could have been legit personal foul yet they aren't calling that either. Words will get you a PF if the refs hear it - so what, words don't cause a concussion.
JUB in his segment on Michigan Insider, pointed to the complete lack of accountability within the officating group. Excellent point. Maybe if they had to answer a uuestion or two at a presser.
November 15th, 2015 at 12:50 PM ^
It's only going grow louder.
The amount of precision/analysis that has been added to the game, via referees/replay-reviews/challenges/etc. has absolutely opened up the floodgates to analysis/criticism.
November 15th, 2015 at 12:54 PM ^
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November 15th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^
The officiating has gotten out of control this year.
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Good offensive linemen hold and don't get caught.
Is that a true statement or am I making that up?
November 15th, 2015 at 12:25 PM ^
On the TD run that gave them the lead, there was a hold on Bolden and a block in the back on Morgan.
November 15th, 2015 at 12:36 PM ^
At least if someone is holding Bolden you know he's in roughly the right spot. That's a plus
November 15th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^
or he didn't jump retardedly off sides...
November 15th, 2015 at 2:52 PM ^
There's the R word again.
smh.
November 15th, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^
It looks like two OL blocking three DL. Good block by Indiana. But I see what you are saying about fouls. I have no confidence in any of the REFs that B1G or any other league has. I have seen too many bad calls this year.
November 15th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^
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November 16th, 2015 at 4:12 PM ^
Yep...
Free blocking zone.
In a box 4 yards on either side of the ball, and 3 yards on either side of the line of scrimmage - clipping, block in the back, block below the waist are all legal.
November 15th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
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November 15th, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^
and I do agree that Michigan was the beneficiary of several questionable calls.
But on the other hand, in a poorly officiated game I am not really convinced that 'it all evens out' just because the bad call went both ways. Consistently bad officiating alters the game and changes the outcome, even if the bad calls are not one sided.
Refs are never going to be perfect, but when is rally bad and/or really inconsistent from week to week, it becomes to much of a factor in shaping the outcome.
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Different teams (and league) but I kept seeing this:
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November 15th, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^
Would you agree it was a late hit? From what I remember you can't touch a sliding player, but the officiating this year taught me that I apparently know nothing.
November 16th, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^
I would disagree on that too. A few days removed, but I didn't think it was dirty at the time. No way for the guy on defense to stop his momentum. Rudock started the slide at virtually the same moment the player went for the tackle. Thought the Indiana player did a good job of pulling up (didn't he hit Rudock's head with his hip instead of going in with a forearm/shoulder/crown of helmet?).
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November 15th, 2015 at 3:06 PM ^
color contrasted gloves.
Black gloves the the home team to contrast with vistor white uniforms
White gloves for the visitor to contrast with the color if the home team uniforms.
Would make holding officiating more accurate and consistent.
November 15th, 2015 at 3:23 PM ^
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The O leaving their stance early was really noticeable. Moreso than I've seen in any football game in a long time.
November 15th, 2015 at 12:31 PM ^
The officiating this year has been so shitty that I no longer get instantly excited about big plays, nor do I get upset about big plays against us. At this point I'm basically programmed to give it a good 2-3 seconds to wait for a flag resulting from poor, inconsistent officiating. It's really ruining the fan experience. The Big Ten has to do something about it to protect its brand.
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i thought the officiating was pretty even. Bad calls against Michigan but there were also bad calls against IU. What surprised me was the number of false starts and offsides on Michigan. Was it really the crowd noise? Michigan played at IU, Utah, Minnesota, and Maryland none of which has a crowd larger than 50,000. Was IU doing something on offense and defense to cause Michigan to jump?
November 15th, 2015 at 1:34 PM ^
I attribute some of the offsides calls, to what others have mentioned up-thread: The IU OLine starting a fraction of a second before the ball was snapped. This led Michigan players to trying to anticipate, rather than waiting for the ball to be snapped.
November 15th, 2015 at 1:55 PM ^
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November 15th, 2015 at 12:39 PM ^
REFs are who they are. I don't think it is going to change much this year. They already screwed us in one game. I hope that doesn't happen rest of the way.
November 15th, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^
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November 15th, 2015 at 12:59 PM ^
He hit him with an elbow to the head in a situation (sliding) where no contact of any kind is allowed. It should have at least been a late hit.
November 16th, 2015 at 4:14 PM ^
Sliding in the NFL makes the QB a "defenseless player"
Sliding in college football DOES NOT make the QB a "defenseless player"
November 15th, 2015 at 12:44 PM ^
The targeting penalty has made no sense. In the Utah-Zona game Anu arizonas QB too a terrible hit to the head knocking him out of the game with concussion like symptoms. If the targeting rule is meant to protect the players then what the hell was that? They can review if a play is targeting if it is called but they cant review an uncalled targeting penalty?? Tht makes no sense
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November 15th, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^
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November 15th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^
That said, we were on the receiving end of a couple of ref-incompetence gifts: Offensive pass interference call on IU, the fumble by Lewis given back to us...there was another I can't recall.
I'm surprised Harbaugh wasn't yelling at them more. I actually think that helps a lot.
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