Then it’s coming out in the NCAA investigation, regardless. The NCAA would already have it due to B1G’s cooperation.
Only thing we get now is an (arguable) lower likelihood of a B1G and CFP title (that might or might not be vacated later, regardless of today’s decision).
I’m really hoping The Game is 1 vs 2. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things but would be great to get the “Game of the Century 2006” taste out of my mouth.
“Should you, as the commissioner of the Big Ten conference, rush to judgement or engage in any ill-considered actions, we will vigorously support our public universities in their efforts to compel fairness and due process.”
Translation: You don’t want us to have to get involved. FAFO.
This may come across as homer-ish, but to me there’s a big difference between filming games vs practice.
In my home, I have an expectation of privacy. Out in public, I don’t. A game is a public environment. A practice (unless it’s open to the public) is not.
Have you been paying attention? It’s clear that maximizing revenue IS already the goal. I mean… *gestures towards literally every decision made in the past decade plus*
The point is that since they’ve already sold CFB’s soul, let’s maybe direct some of that money to the people who are putting their bodies on the line instead of just funneling more into execs, admins, and coaches pockets.
My complains with Denver after that becoming my main airport:
It’s SO FAR from everything. Like it’s crazy how far out it is.
The train to the terminals is fine while it’s working but when that goes down, there is literally no way to get to the main area. How can they possible have that as the only way to get between?
The lizard people under the airport are kind of rude. I get they run the whole world, but you don’t have to be a dick about it.
I’m always intrigued by the possibility of what technology could provide the sport. Location, force, proximity, etc. I’m sure there would be some limitations that would impact what it could determine within the margin of error necessary, but would love the ability to time sync a video to readings that allows you to say “the ball did not cross the goal line before the time stamp where we see the runner is down.”
What (I think) WolvinLA2 is discussing are the programs that cost thousands of dollars in exchange for guaranteed higher grades because they teach you, effectively, ways to leverage the test structure into a higher grade. You pay money to learn how to “game” the test
Let’s say you have Timmy at School A in a wealthy part of town that either his parents pay for the class or is offered at the school (like I was lucky to have in my rural town for free). Timmy is taught things like it being better for your score to skip certain questions if it takes you more than 30 seconds to answer, or the logarithm used for the computer-adapted tests that puts more weight on the first X questions so you’re better off spending time on those and not getting to all of the later questions, perhaps.
Tommy at School B that doesn’t have the funds to offer that class, or doesn’t have the same test prep materials in the library because the test has changed their approach recently and their materials are outdated. He doesn’t learn those tips and tricks, which will undoubtedly cost him points on the test.
The fact that Timmy is automatically determined to be better equipped for college is an absolute indictment on the tests and the inherent bias in them.
Maybe once Tommy gets to school and has those resources available to him, he would thrive. But he missed the opportunity for a certain level of education because of where he was raised and the resources available. THATS how the standardized tests (and test prep, more specifically) play in to the generational poverty/wealth.
Can people escape it? Absolutely. Do they have to work infinitely harder to do so? I would argue between this, things like having to care for siblings due to lack of money for childcare, having to work jobs after school to help provide for the family— absolutely, undoubtedly, in many cases, yes.
He’s suggesting suspending him solely for the optics and to be able to claim the high ground. “No charges were filed and the police didn’t seem to think he was drunk but we don’t like the look of it so we’re going to suspend him anyway.”
if this is indeed a systemic issue in the AAPD then that’s where it needs to be addressed (as well as in the AD if that does, in fact, come out). Did the officer give an athlete preferential treatment? Punish that officer. But I agree it’s ridiculous to say he had to be suspended for longer because “it seems like he had been drinking” without any further proof
There is a difference here between “picked up from jail and driven directly to campus to participate in a game without a suspension” and “based on what the police said this is a one-game suspension for lying to the police,” which is more than most schools would give.
And a subsequent poster said they were there and didn’t see anyone. I’m not sure who is right.
with the amount of misinformation and trolls on the board (not saying that OP is a troll) I don’t believe anything said on here unless evidence is provided. If he had pictures, I’d believe it. I have yet to see that proof.
Which would have given him all the more reason to give him a sobriety test if the officer actually believed he was intoxicated.
Absent evidence to the contrary, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Could he have been drunk? Sure. Is it likely given how things played out? I’d say “no.”
He hasn’t been in trouble before, the suspension was 1 game. I find it crazy that people automatically jump to “Juwan Howard/Michigan has a culture problem” when it’s manufactured outrage over a narrative contrived in their minds.
ill save my outrage and indignation for when there is a reason to (which, if it comes out this was a DUI situation AND was enabled by AAPD and Juwan, I’ll be right there with my pitchfork). But making shit up like “well there was no breathalyzer but clearly this was drunk driving with an impermissible benefit and UM is awful” doesn’t do it for me.
In the article it did mention the officer said he didn’t smell any intoxicants on him or the car. So I assume that’s sufficient justification (right or not) to not breathalyze.
Not saying this is what happened but sounds similar to a thing that happened in my high school way back when. Again, not saying I have any knowledge of the situation or this is anything other than pure speculation.
Kid was riding home with his friend. Friend was driving and maybe had a drink or two at the party they just left. Friend wraps the car around a pole. Out of fear of getting arrested or DUIed, friend takes off. Cops come, kid says he was the one driving. Result is a ticket rather than someone going to jail.
If we’re all just going to speculate wildly (and everyone assuming this was a DUI situation is doing just that) then I prefer to assume X was being a bro and took one for his buddy (and in this case his Boss’ Boss’ son).
Would I give the same benefit of the doubt to a rival player? Nope. But I also don’t believe AAPD is in the Athletic Departments pocket like at MSU/FSU/OSU/UF/etc. Not after a player (was it Big Will Campbell?) was arrested for doing a Dukes of Hazard hood slide.
Agreed. This place used to be a great place for level-headed discourse and intelligent football discussions. I remember when this comment section wasn't a cesspool approaching the likes of Youtube.
Now 1/3 of it is trolls trolling, 1/3 is people arguing with trolls, and the other 1/3 is commenters and contributors I used to respect giving into the BPONE.
I think I'll see you guys during basketball season, assuming the ceiling of Crisler isn't caving in.
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Pretty sure one of the beers being chucked at Kris Jenkins’ truck ended up hitting the cop car behind them.
Yup, you’re right. Like seatbelt & helmet laws, or removing lead from gasoline, paint, etc.
How selfish of them. They’re far from perfect but give me a break.
Dude the attacks against other posters and faux moral superiority are wearing thin.
Go outside. Spend some time with your family. Log off. It’ll be good for you.
I mean, anyone who knows California real estate isn’t shocked at that growth over 3 years, especially with the COVID growth.
Can’t our boosters just hire PI firms like a normal fucking school?
Then it’s coming out in the NCAA investigation, regardless. The NCAA would already have it due to B1G’s cooperation.
Only thing we get now is an (arguable) lower likelihood of a B1G and CFP title (that might or might not be vacated later, regardless of today’s decision).
I like what I’m hearing so I choose to believe it!
I’m really hoping The Game is 1 vs 2. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things but would be great to get the “Game of the Century 2006” taste out of my mouth.
The author of that post mentioned that in a comment in the thread about Mars’ letter, and he said “cool, glad I was able to help out.”
Well, he eats the sun and drinks the stars, and they both go with him when he dies.
Hey. HEY. GO ON. GIT. GET OUTTA HERE. ADVANCED SCOUTING IS NOT ALLOWED.
Not sure I agree with the title summary after watching the videos. I think it’s conflating two points mentioned:
Now those could both be the same thing, but the transition between clauses made me question the interpretation. Still makes the NCAA look terrible.
“Should you, as the commissioner of the Big Ten conference, rush to judgement or engage in any ill-considered actions, we will vigorously support our public universities in their efforts to compel fairness and due process.”
Translation: You don’t want us to have to get involved. FAFO.
This may come across as homer-ish, but to me there’s a big difference between filming games vs practice.
In my home, I have an expectation of privacy. Out in public, I don’t. A game is a public environment. A practice (unless it’s open to the public) is not.
Dominating performance. Not a lot that hasn’t already been said
Glad to see Rolder get in late. Hopefully recovery is on track.
I believe when a drive started in the 3rd and continued into the 4th, but no drives that started in the 4th.
That depends what measure of central tendency is used.
I interpret his statement was based on mode, which can have multiple “averages.”
Have you been paying attention? It’s clear that maximizing revenue IS already the goal. I mean… *gestures towards literally every decision made in the past decade plus*
The point is that since they’ve already sold CFB’s soul, let’s maybe direct some of that money to the people who are putting their bodies on the line instead of just funneling more into execs, admins, and coaches pockets.
My complains with Denver after that becoming my main airport:
Saw this Michigan Discord in the Reddit thread for planning purposes.
Really racking my brain what “computer access crimes” could be.
Unapproved access to some secure system? EHR or something?
https://xkcd.com/1053/
Believe Hanging Lake is still closed due to fires last year.
I’m always intrigued by the possibility of what technology could provide the sport. Location, force, proximity, etc. I’m sure there would be some limitations that would impact what it could determine within the margin of error necessary, but would love the ability to time sync a video to readings that allows you to say “the ball did not cross the goal line before the time stamp where we see the runner is down.”
Test prep != preparing for a test.
What (I think) WolvinLA2 is discussing are the programs that cost thousands of dollars in exchange for guaranteed higher grades because they teach you, effectively, ways to leverage the test structure into a higher grade. You pay money to learn how to “game” the test
Let’s say you have Timmy at School A in a wealthy part of town that either his parents pay for the class or is offered at the school (like I was lucky to have in my rural town for free). Timmy is taught things like it being better for your score to skip certain questions if it takes you more than 30 seconds to answer, or the logarithm used for the computer-adapted tests that puts more weight on the first X questions so you’re better off spending time on those and not getting to all of the later questions, perhaps.
Tommy at School B that doesn’t have the funds to offer that class, or doesn’t have the same test prep materials in the library because the test has changed their approach recently and their materials are outdated. He doesn’t learn those tips and tricks, which will undoubtedly cost him points on the test.
The fact that Timmy is automatically determined to be better equipped for college is an absolute indictment on the tests and the inherent bias in them.
Maybe once Tommy gets to school and has those resources available to him, he would thrive. But he missed the opportunity for a certain level of education because of where he was raised and the resources available. THATS how the standardized tests (and test prep, more specifically) play in to the generational poverty/wealth.
Can people escape it? Absolutely. Do they have to work infinitely harder to do so? I would argue between this, things like having to care for siblings due to lack of money for childcare, having to work jobs after school to help provide for the family— absolutely, undoubtedly, in many cases, yes.
There’s such a thing as too much butts talk and a fella oughta be aware.
Disagree. New York 5’s heathen here.
Then you could take the Charlie Weiss route, fall upwards, and have MULTIPLE teams paying you to stay the hell away.
There really is no losing!
He’s suggesting suspending him solely for the optics and to be able to claim the high ground. “No charges were filed and the police didn’t seem to think he was drunk but we don’t like the look of it so we’re going to suspend him anyway.”
if this is indeed a systemic issue in the AAPD then that’s where it needs to be addressed (as well as in the AD if that does, in fact, come out). Did the officer give an athlete preferential treatment? Punish that officer. But I agree it’s ridiculous to say he had to be suspended for longer because “it seems like he had been drinking” without any further proof
There is a difference here between “picked up from jail and driven directly to campus to participate in a game without a suspension” and “based on what the police said this is a one-game suspension for lying to the police,” which is more than most schools would give.
Lets be…
Oof. “Fag?”
Lets be bigger than that.
And a subsequent poster said they were there and didn’t see anyone. I’m not sure who is right.
with the amount of misinformation and trolls on the board (not saying that OP is a troll) I don’t believe anything said on here unless evidence is provided. If he had pictures, I’d believe it. I have yet to see that proof.
Which would have given him all the more reason to give him a sobriety test if the officer actually believed he was intoxicated.
Absent evidence to the contrary, I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Could he have been drunk? Sure. Is it likely given how things played out? I’d say “no.”
He hasn’t been in trouble before, the suspension was 1 game. I find it crazy that people automatically jump to “Juwan Howard/Michigan has a culture problem” when it’s manufactured outrage over a narrative contrived in their minds.
ill save my outrage and indignation for when there is a reason to (which, if it comes out this was a DUI situation AND was enabled by AAPD and Juwan, I’ll be right there with my pitchfork). But making shit up like “well there was no breathalyzer but clearly this was drunk driving with an impermissible benefit and UM is awful” doesn’t do it for me.
In the article it did mention the officer said he didn’t smell any intoxicants on him or the car. So I assume that’s sufficient justification (right or not) to not breathalyze.
Get over yourself. He borrowed a friend’s car. This wasn’t a dealership loaner like at other schools (cough cough).
Not saying this is what happened but sounds similar to a thing that happened in my high school way back when. Again, not saying I have any knowledge of the situation or this is anything other than pure speculation.
Kid was riding home with his friend. Friend was driving and maybe had a drink or two at the party they just left. Friend wraps the car around a pole. Out of fear of getting arrested or DUIed, friend takes off. Cops come, kid says he was the one driving. Result is a ticket rather than someone going to jail.
If we’re all just going to speculate wildly (and everyone assuming this was a DUI situation is doing just that) then I prefer to assume X was being a bro and took one for his buddy (and in this case his Boss’ Boss’ son).
Would I give the same benefit of the doubt to a rival player? Nope. But I also don’t believe AAPD is in the Athletic Departments pocket like at MSU/FSU/OSU/UF/etc. Not after a player (was it Big Will Campbell?) was arrested for doing a Dukes of Hazard hood slide.
Man, listening to that podcast has become brutal. It honesty feels like both hosts relish Michigan’s struggles. Like they enjoy it.
I think I’m done listening.
I like it. Beats a clickbait title any day.
I’d love to see your work there.
Maybe if he tells the NFL someone used A racial slur on campus (despite him never actually, you know, being there) they’ll let him leave early.
Yeah, ok.
"We."
Yeah, ok.
Agreed. This place used to be a great place for level-headed discourse and intelligent football discussions. I remember when this comment section wasn't a cesspool approaching the likes of Youtube.
Now 1/3 of it is trolls trolling, 1/3 is people arguing with trolls, and the other 1/3 is commenters and contributors I used to respect giving into the BPONE.
I think I'll see you guys during basketball season, assuming the ceiling of Crisler isn't caving in.
Go Blue.
I don't know if I want to hear that much MSU. Anyone who has listened to the first one, how is it? Did you gag through ~50% of it?
This post should definitely be at the top.
Pool(er) poopers.
Then he'd be giving up so much of his competitive advantage. This cannot stand!
I think we, collectively, are saying "enough is enough" with this schtick.
If enough is enough, stop watching. Stop caring. It's better for your health than the constant bullshit you spew, Maizen.
Ok, guys. You heard the man. Shut it all down until November 30th.
See you guys then!
Unless it's stretching too much. That would be too dangerous to let slide.
Won't someone think of the children?!?
Unless it's stretching too much. That would be too dangerous to let slide.
Won't someone think of the children?!?
Somehow they will find a way to fall upwards, like always.
Maybe Bill Belichick is looking for a change of pace.