Delonte Hollowell - Looking for Support for Graduate School [LOCKED]
Hello,
Delonte Hollowell (DB 2011-2014) is looking for support for graduate school. He started a gofundme page.
Whatever the MGOBLOG community can do to support a former player would be great. His info is on the page itself.
(I'm just an alumni that he reached out to).
http://www.gofundme.com/dhollo24
I pointed him to this thread, so he might be able to answer any questions himself.
MOD EDIT - locking this one. Way too many groan-inducing replies to make it worth salvaging. To the OP, if Hollowell is willing to post something himself here, let me know - that might be best. - LSA
September 15th, 2015 at 4:20 PM ^
is this allowed seeing that he's a former NCAA player? I would think the NCAA would frown upon former players getting donations from boosters
September 15th, 2015 at 4:27 PM ^
He's a former player, so it shouldn't matter. He no longer has eligibility, so the NCAA shouldn't have any say in this.
September 15th, 2015 at 4:41 PM ^
Is this true? I've always wondered about stuff like this -- what prevents schools from recruiting with a wink-and-nod understanding that those players will always be taken care of after their time at the school (presumably by boosters)?
Surely, for example, the NCAA would be interested if Michigan boosters decided to start giving all former players $50,000 gifts as soon as their eligibility expires. I would think recruits would probably catch on to the situation without anyone having to promise anything.
Not that it's at all relevant to Delonte's situation here, but I've always been curious about this.
September 15th, 2015 at 4:54 PM ^
I've always wondered about this too. Has there ever been a situation where something in this realm was investigated as being sketchy? It seems like there has to have been.
September 15th, 2015 at 8:14 PM ^
I'm not sure how they've gotten away with it. Hollowell's case is obviously different. He's trying to raise money on his own, not relying on promises made to him by the school or boosters. It's certainly within the rules for boosters to contribute, just as it would be to hire him.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:00 PM ^
I don't know what the exact rules state, but many schools use the "networking opportunities" within their alumni base as a recruiting pitch.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:09 PM ^
Any player that the boosters would want to ensure is taken care of usually winds up playing professionally though.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:13 PM ^
I think this just sounds like an awesome way to skirt NCAA rules. No longer on scholarship, no longer eligible, NCAA has no say.
September 16th, 2015 at 2:14 AM ^
The same schools that would do tha tare the ones they say you'll start as a freshmen and ask you to leave for medical reasons when you're a soph.
September 15th, 2015 at 6:57 PM ^
If you're a "booster", which I assume almost all of us here are, then it could be a violation if he had a sibling that was of recruiting age.
September 15th, 2015 at 9:34 PM ^
You may want to check your sarcasm meter...
September 15th, 2015 at 4:20 PM ^
September 15th, 2015 at 4:36 PM ^
He "can" but what if I told you he doesn't have to?
September 15th, 2015 at 4:36 PM ^
"I was on scholarship all 4 years so I don't have any debt, so why start now?!"
- Direct quote from the Go Fund Me page
September 15th, 2015 at 5:31 PM ^
... from one of the few people who have donated...
"I have 90k in student loan debt myself but because I think NCAA amateurism is bullshit, this seems like something worth donating to."
September 15th, 2015 at 5:03 PM ^
September 15th, 2015 at 5:53 PM ^
I just finished putting two kids through Michigan with undergrad and grad degrees in engineering and then both went to med school, all OOS and with no scholarship aid. Good luck to Delonte but at this juncture, the only person I'm donating to is someone who can get the cost of education under control.
Start looking up how much debt the average med student has, how long their training takes, how little they are paid during residency while debt continues to accrue, etc. It might tell you why I'm not sympathetic.
Thanks, I feel better.
September 15th, 2015 at 7:09 PM ^
You paid for both of your kids med school? Im super jealous, and thats awesome.
September 15th, 2015 at 10:34 PM ^
I've had a couple people now hit me up for cash to live their dream (both in Europe). One I had met once and sent me a couple messages. I felt like writing an angry response to her. The other was a former roommate. "Help me achieve my dream by paying for me to go live in Spain!" What the fuck? How about I give money to someone who really needs it instead of someone who just wants other people to pay for them to leech off their friends in Spain. Sorry for the rant, but I'm amazed people have the gall to do that. Hit up their friends for cash instead of trying to accomplish it themselves. Hey guys, I wanna go to the beach in Thailand to sit around. Give me money. The one going to Spain was a teacher in Korea for a while. You weren't saving anything? Just blowing all your cash and counting on friends to save your ass later on? And trust me, it's easy to save money in Korea. It's not an expensive place to live. If I didn't have any student loan debt, I'd be saving thousands of dollars every year without pinching pennies, travelling often, and not making a whole lot of money.
I don't necessarily have a problem with Delonte doing this. If people are willing to just give him some cash because they enjoyed watching him play, whatever. What I had a problem with was people I personally knew using our relationship to just ask for money. It's extremely rude IMO.
September 15th, 2015 at 11:45 PM ^
Show me what life and limb threatening job your kid did or does or will do for the university in which the U makes hundreds of millions of dollars on without paying her, and I'll contribute to her go fund me!
September 15th, 2015 at 10:20 PM ^
This explains the recent past of Michigan football so clearly.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:34 PM ^
"I'm going to be 100k in debt after school"
That sounds like a personal problem.
September 15th, 2015 at 4:21 PM ^
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September 15th, 2015 at 5:32 PM ^
September 15th, 2015 at 4:23 PM ^
He's a FORMER NCAA player. Therefore, it is allowed.
Also, complaining about fund like this is like complaining about a scholarship fund. Just because you have debt doesn't mean others should have debt. In this case, at least we know it's going to a good kid.
September 15th, 2015 at 4:27 PM ^
September 15th, 2015 at 4:28 PM ^
....how is that not the same as a scholarship?
September 15th, 2015 at 4:58 PM ^
.....is he going to come to your house to do social work upon completion or share his learnings?
September 15th, 2015 at 5:16 PM ^
People appear to agree that it's not a scholarship, but I still don't get what is significantly different about it. Do scholarships require students to help out in the community? Serious question since I've never gotten a scholarship.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^
Scholarships are awarded based upon the idea you will be a steward for the school, as well as improving the university's appearance for years to come through your success. It's also an investment in highly successful 'projects' in hopes of future donations that equal or surpass the amount given (remembering that the university is providing a service, albeit a free seat versus a paying one). Not to mention marketing when it comes to school values and purposes. Some scholarships, not provided by the university, may actually have a requirement. But academic and professional scholarships are based largely on what you bring in.
September 15th, 2015 at 4:38 PM ^
Not certain why a "hand out" has become a negative in this country. He's asking and you seem a little butt hurt that you didn't think of this idea.
I had student loans and I paid them off before the chirps come out.
September 15th, 2015 at 4:44 PM ^
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September 15th, 2015 at 4:46 PM ^
September 15th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^
Being on a D1 football team takes up many, many hours of your time. He worked for his "free" education.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:00 PM ^
Why isn't he working for this segment of his education? Should we help Drew Dileo with his down payment on a house because he played as well (I picked him arbitrarily, no vitriol intended)?
September 15th, 2015 at 5:08 PM ^
If we want to, then why not? You know you don't have to give him any money right?
September 15th, 2015 at 5:16 PM ^
I haven't reported the post or sent an email or whatever. Since when is an echo chamber demanded where the only thing allowed is agreement to the post?
September 15th, 2015 at 5:36 PM ^
Then I guess I am not seeing where your problem with this lies. If people want to help Delante Hollowell pay for grad school or Drew Dileo buy a house, why shouldn't they?
September 15th, 2015 at 5:41 PM ^
That's all
September 15th, 2015 at 5:18 PM ^
...his undergraduate education wasn't "free" in any sense. He didn't receive any handouts from U of M.
And, as you're well aware, he can't continue to pay for school via football. It's very possible that he could work his way through school doing something other than playing football. Maybe he's already started. I don't know.
What we do know is that he's looking to parlay a certain segment of the public's regard for him into money. I seem to remember a person or two doing that somewhere at some point in recent US history.
I don't intend to give to his gofundme effort. But I don't see why people are against it. The man can ask for help and see what he gets. Drew Dileo can do that too. It's a free world, baby.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:19 PM ^
I think some are bothered that it comes across as free advertisement to a massive audience to create the post. With it being a published item with a requested endorsement, I don't see why it shouldn't be responded to. Without doing so, it comes across as acceptance or ignorance. If people posted a request to ban American Sniper on here, people would weigh in. If people posted a request to vote Cottage Inn the best pizza in Ann Arbor, people would weigh in. If the Go Fund Me page was created by a fan, you'd have a point. But his own words are... disappointing... and people feel the need to respond to those PUBLIC words that are being championed.
Also I'm posting because I'm killing time.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:21 PM ^
And your last sentence speaks for me too. And I should really get back to work.
September 15th, 2015 at 4:53 PM ^
Dont give him any money if you don't want to. He asked for help - he didnt start the negotiations with a gun in his hand.
Radical thought I know given that he asked for it but I've employed successfully the "just say no" technique for years with telemarketers, street bums and ex-wives. Works like a fucking charm.
September 15th, 2015 at 5:00 PM ^
Wait, you can say no to telemarketers?!!! Fuck. I want my money back.
September 16th, 2015 at 3:38 AM ^
I like to deal with telemarketers by telling them, "Sure hold on I want to talk to you I'll be right back, just one second" then set the phone down for 30-60 minutes.
September 15th, 2015 at 6:35 PM ^
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