CC: Bob Stoops in play?
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-haney/post?id=3840
I can only read part of this article, but this is the second article in a matter of days that suggests Stoops ought to leave Norman.
If he does come available than he(in my mind) is 2nd or 3rd on the list. He fields good defenses, runs a spread, and has a national title. If Harbaugh is a no-go than Stoops would be a very strong second option if he is willing to leave Norman.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:11 PM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 7:13 PM ^
dissatisfaction.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:16 PM ^
Well, if he does want to leave Norman I'd have to think the new AD should at least guage his interest.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:13 AM ^
Stoops has won big, and has done so without reasonably good conduct exhibited by those involved with his program. He has recruiting ties to the midwest, and to Texas and Oklahoma. This one is a no-brainer: Offer him, and see what it will take to get him here. As BlueCheesehead from Wingedhelmet would say, he'll unite the fan base, and we can forget about the various factions and clans of Michigan supporters.
Go Blue and Get Stoops!
November 9th, 2014 at 7:14 PM ^
Good luck with that. He's got no Michigan ties and I don't see what would attract him - it's going to be tough to get a big name coach given the last 7 years or so.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:15 PM ^
Thank You mister Warfare-- spose Not All Urbans... are bad.
Some like you Can Be-- friend-ly some-times.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:47 PM ^
What you did there. I see it.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:16 PM ^
That's what people said about Alabama before they got Saban. Michigan is still an elite job and Stoops would make Michigan a perennial playoff team in the Big Ten.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:16 PM ^
Why would a big name coach give a shit about Michigan's recent problems? For 6 million a year, there will be some top names interested.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:26 PM ^
I think it'd be tough because of what happened with Rich Rod. Why would anyone want to go to a place where people in the athletic department are actively sabotaging the program?
November 9th, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^
Who would want to play in a stadium shaped toilet?
November 9th, 2014 at 7:41 PM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 7:56 PM ^
We’ve been living for three months in a rolled-up newspaper in a septic tank.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:37 PM ^
we didn't have toilets. We walked to school both ways uphill against the hot sun and freezing wind.....
November 10th, 2014 at 10:31 AM ^
And get off my lawn!!
November 9th, 2014 at 7:32 PM ^
Those people are gone. Lloyd is no longer an associate AD or whatever and is golfing somewhere, DB is gone etc. Basically you just have a bunch of former football players who I doubt are going to say anything and if they do then who cares? The fanbase just wants to win.
November 9th, 2014 at 10:07 PM ^
are getting their just dessert this year. I also suspect this next time around those people are being told to shut up and sit down.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:41 PM ^
I certainly do agree with you about Rich Rod, but I think the lesson has been learned. The "Must have Michigan Man" crowd got what they wanted and it was a disaster, so I don't think they have much as much cachet or ability to gum up the works behind the scenes this time around.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:41 PM ^
Really? How did the Tressel show go? No one gave a rip about that. Somehow, it is ok to dump everything on Tressel, as if the Athletic Department did nothing wrong. Urban didn't think anything about it and he came. Didn't he? So, it will all workout if he likes the money and the options he gets.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:01 PM ^
At least in the eyes of most of football people. If the Hoke Floats debacle hasn't silenced them, Stoops sterling record will. However, I doubt any of them would do anything to Stoops consideirng his track record. RR does not have Stoops cache, a fact you strangely seem to be unaware of.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:45 PM ^
where people in the athletic department are actively sabotaging the program?How many of them are current Michigan AD employees? One of the benefits of the Great Brandon Purges is that few long timers are left.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:56 PM ^
did u kno that the ypsi illuminati tried 2 replace richrod with ron english bro
November 9th, 2014 at 8:02 PM ^
You signed up in 2010, but Meyer was still at Florida then.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:17 PM ^
If you change your name your join date doesn't change with it. I could be wrong but I believe up until Meyer was hired his name was Trusts Tressel.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:40 PM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 8:55 PM ^
I dunno, why would anyone want to go to a 6-7 program under sanctions that had fired or forced out every coach since the 1950s? OSU has always been and still is a shittier job than Michigan.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:27 PM ^
"Urban Warfare:" If David Brandon was still here, you would be correct. But all it is going to take is one competent AD to turn the Michigan Job from its current degraded position to what it should be: one of the top five jobs in football.
Michigan has the most resources of any program in the country. They have great tradition. They have the biggest stadium in college football. They have won more games than any program in college football. The only thing they don't have is a bunch of SEC-style boosters to buy players, but an honest coach will appreciate that.
Any coach would at least listen. The question is going to be whether a new AD can convince a new coach that the neanderthal segment of the alumni who sacrificed seven years of Michgan football just to get rid of an "outsider" don't control the program.
I think it should be painfully obvious to the people who ruined it for Rich Rod that their shit caused the program's current state of dishevelment. I also think that the next AD will build a lot of "reassurance" into an ironclad buyout clause that fairly compensates the coach if he is forced out.
If a competent AD is hired, Michigan should have their choice of almost any coach in the country.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:36 PM ^
to Rich Rod is peanuts compared to what happened to Gibbs, Schnellenberger, and Blake. None of them were named Switzer and the fans and alumni weren't having it. At least over the last seven seasons Michigan will have had at least four winning seasons, something pre-Stoops, Oklahoma didn't enjoy.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:40 PM ^
not to mention what regularly goes on in the SEC... I mean really, just think about everything that has happened at Auburn since like the mid-1980's. Just sit down and read about Auburn football over 30 years. And then come back and tell me how Michigan is a poisoned well.
November 10th, 2014 at 3:16 AM ^
November 9th, 2014 at 9:33 PM ^
Those people aren't there anymore, for one.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:18 PM ^
numerous high profile NFL alums..and you can't figure out why anyone would want to come here?
November 10th, 2014 at 11:12 AM ^
Not to mention that we have a lot of young talent on the team that just needs proper coaching. This team is primed for someone to come in and look like a god in their first season.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:19 PM ^
Yeah, like totally, brah. Big-name coaches never take a job at any school that isn't coming off a National Championship. Alabama was tearing it up before Saban took over.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:20 PM ^
that preceded him. The chance to rebuild a power that has been humbled is appealing to these top flight coaches.
Stoops is from Ohio and coached/played at Iowa. He is familiar with UM.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:22 PM ^
Your coach has a bad heart...
November 9th, 2014 at 7:24 PM ^
I think there are a lot more doors open than you might think at the moment. There's no indication that we're not going to throw shit tons of money out there if we needed to do so, and between that and the honor of being "The Coach Who Turned Michigan Around", I would imagine a fair number of top tier people would at least listen. That, and I think the "Michigan ties" thing died a peaceful death sometime during the Miami (OH) game.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:25 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 10:20 PM ^
its representatives--like you--would not be on this board. Admit it. The prospect of a new UM coach scares you.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:39 AM ^
Michigan could get him.
The truth is that any of the top football programs by revenue (#1 Texas, #2 OSU, #3 Michigan) could pay a LOT more than they are currently paying in coaching salaries.
Of course, the universities are reluctant to shell out big increases if they don't have to, but at this point, Michigan's $85 million annual football cash flow is at risk. Going with a proven winner for $7 million (heck, $10 million for Harbaugh) may very well increase the present value of the cash flow stream versus going cheap (~$4 million) for a so-so hire.
Now, as a culture, Michigan would be one of the last to chase a top notch hire with $$$. But desperate times call for bold moves.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^
I thought it was strange that Wetzel posted an article about Stoops to Michigan out of the blue. I get the sit-click motivation, but Wetzel isn't really like that; most of the Yahoo guys are excellent. I'd still put the likelihood of it at less than 10%, but it's interesting.
November 9th, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^
Here's a more likely read: Bob wants leverage. He makes $5 million a year, which is going to continue to be dwarfed in the college football arms race. He has ties to both Florida and the B1G, it is within the realm of conception that he might listen to offers from either us or them. Maybe he feels like he needs more investment either in himself or in the program generally.
It is worth making a phone call to be sure, and if he says no to us it's maybe worth hoping he says yes to Florida to give us a clearer shot at Mullen or some of the slim pickings out there after those names come off the board.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:13 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 7:14 PM ^
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November 9th, 2014 at 7:17 PM ^
I disagree. Stoops over Mullen every day and twice on Sunday.
November 9th, 2014 at 7:21 PM ^
Stoops is easily a better candidate.