FSU to face significant penalties related to NIL
Interesting..wonder if tampering or??
January 11th, 2024 at 8:02 PM ^
Well I guess not tampering the more I read it..either way..some serious shit
January 11th, 2024 at 9:58 PM ^
Extra cheese?
January 12th, 2024 at 2:24 AM ^
Think someone mightve cut it..
January 11th, 2024 at 8:04 PM ^
Norvell to Bama confirmed?
Ugh, I actually just read this, and they're not using that new-fangled Head Coach Responsibility provision? They're only going after the assistant directly responsible? Incredible.*
* By which I mean, completely predictable because the NCAA is the embodiment of corruption.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:08 PM ^
Yea what the hell..I thought that was a must
January 11th, 2024 at 11:27 PM ^
I've read it's an option available, but not a 'must'.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:20 PM ^
Just another data point that says CheeseburgerGate and SignGate are done. Whatever is still left going on will be quietly swept under the rug in a midnight Friday news dump in the middle of July. Between this, and Charlie Baker saying "fair and square", it's over.
And that is probably the reason that Michigan suddenly and inexplicably dropped the lawsuits. Good chance Charlie called up and said 'suck it up and its over'...
January 11th, 2024 at 8:32 PM ^
I wish I shared your optimism.
January 11th, 2024 at 10:04 PM ^
Or by publicly commenting for the second time on a pending outcome/case he knows he doomed it. Lessens impending discovery.
January 12th, 2024 at 12:45 AM ^
How was this story hid so well before this ruling? Oh right, because every school has the media protecting them but us.
January 12th, 2024 at 8:14 AM ^
And, of course, Michigan will be given the death penalty.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:26 PM ^
By corruption, you mean 'fairness'. You are forgiven. It's a simple concept to misinterpret.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:39 PM ^
Keep your Newspeak away from me!
January 11th, 2024 at 8:32 PM ^
Well…apparently there weren’t any cheeseburgers involved so….
January 11th, 2024 at 8:39 PM ^
In the cheeseburger case, it was the head coach doing the buying so we didn’t have to use that clause. If you read the NCAA president’s comments yesterday, Michigan has very little to complain about from the NCAA. Sorry if this ruins the NCAA is picking on just us narrative.
The Big Ten is a different issue.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:47 PM ^
An institution’s head coach shall be held responsible for the head coach’s actions and the actions of all institutional staff members who report, directly or indirectly, to the head coach.
January 11th, 2024 at 9:05 PM ^
I could be wrong, but wasn't that provision added AFTER the cheeseburger incident? So in that case, Harbaugh isn't going to be retroactively punished anyway.
And the Level 1 Infractions against Harbaugh don't relate him actually buying cheeseburgers, but the claim that he wasn't forthcoming with investigators about it.
Either way, it's a pretty silly hill to die on for the NCAA and I wouldn't trust that they wont die on similarly silly hills with SignGate.
January 11th, 2024 at 9:26 PM ^
Yes, you're correct that the provision would not apply to Harbaugh's alleged cheeseburger-related misleading. I read that comment in the context of the thread about the NCAA's being corrupt for not consistently applying its own rules, but I may have misunderstood.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:40 PM ^
Yeah, you almost wonder if they selectively enforce certain provisions due to personal animus and not based on principled and consistent reasoning.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:05 PM ^
I've been keeping an eye on Texas A&M for the last couple years as well. Seems to me they've been liberal with their NIL money also.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:10 PM ^
Didn’t Texas literally pass a law declaring their football programs will operate with impunity from the NCAA?
January 11th, 2024 at 8:21 PM ^
I thought TN did also?
January 11th, 2024 at 9:14 PM ^
Basically says that the NCAA can be sued by any student athlete in the state of Texas if NCAA rules compel student athletes to violate state law. So that means Texas state legislature can draft up laws saying student athletes are within their rights to smear feces on the walls of NCAA HQ, and if the NCAA compels said student athlete not to do that, the student athlete can sue for it.
January 11th, 2024 at 11:49 PM ^
I’m pretty sure that the state of Texas isn’t going to pass new laws that literally carve out exceptions for existing laws that prohibit vandalism and the defacement of property.
January 12th, 2024 at 10:20 AM ^
The joke's up here. You're way down there.
I mean yes, it was an obvious exaggeration, but the point remains the same. It is now state law within Texas that student athletes within the state can sue the NCAA if NCAA policy compels said student athlete to break state law.
Doesn't take much thinking to see how that can evolve down the road and what that means for the NCAA.
January 12th, 2024 at 1:20 AM ^
Deion Smith showed up in a Lamborghini to sign his Ol' Miss letter of intent, but obviously nothing to see there ....
January 11th, 2024 at 8:05 PM ^
Fuck the NCAA.
January 11th, 2024 at 11:39 PM ^
I'm just over them and their BS. Just let's have some basic rules and player contracts and let the market play itself out.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:07 PM ^
Wait... I thought the head coach was responsible for everything in the program whether he knew about it or not. Only the assistant gets suspended?
January 11th, 2024 at 8:11 PM ^
They’re just thugs at this point, like keep your mouth shut or we’ll kneecap your ass.
January 12th, 2024 at 2:45 PM ^
*slugs
January 11th, 2024 at 8:41 PM ^
That is the rule but we have not seen it enforced, even in Michigan’s case. Remember, Michigan does not have a notice of allegations for the Stallions issue yet.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:08 PM ^
. . . according to the NCAA, the booster encouraged the prospect to enroll at Florida State and offered him an NIL opportunity with the collective worth approximately $15,000 per month during his first year at the school.
. . . Mark Hicks, the NCAA enforcement managing director for development, told a group of administrators that the association is focused on “tampering and inducements” related to NIL and that they have proof that recruiting rules are being violated.
. . . NCAA officials are learning of new ways that universities are inducing athletes to their campus, said Hicks, including offering a combination of cash, an apartment lease, a vehicle and transportation for family members to visit campus.
Wow, it will be a game-changer if they actually start enforcing this stuff. It is RMAPANT in college football. Nobody thinks the NCAA will enforce the rules.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:23 PM ^
When do they roll into Columbus? I mean, Gene Smith flat out told Congress that it costs $5000 just to get a kid on campus for a visit...
January 11th, 2024 at 8:31 PM ^
A small point to note. It doesn’t take $5K or &10K to get a kid on campus.
It takes $5K or $10K to get a kid OSU wants on campus.
THE Mercenary U…
January 11th, 2024 at 9:05 PM ^
I don't think the part you quoted is the actual violation. The violation is the staffer drive the recruit to the meeting, there by facilitating the meeting. AFAIK a booster meeting a recruit on their own and making that offer is not against the rules.
January 11th, 2024 at 9:16 PM ^
Pay to play is against the rules no matter who provides the inducement.
NEWS: NCAA Is expected to levy unprecedented penalties for NIL-related violations committed by Florida State, sources tell @YahooSports, including 3-game suspension for an assistant coach & disassociation from its booster collective and a booster
January 11th, 2024 at 8:10 PM ^
This shit seems very selective…the shit they did to us because Jim wants the players to get a slice of the pie and now this to FSU because they spe up about Bama. How does bama, atm, Georgia, an ohio not get investigated as it’s pretty blatant with the nil inducements, I mean ohio is essentially saying they pay to play. Because the NCAA doesn’t want to go after them.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:19 PM ^
What have we learned?: The NCAA will go after whatever is easy, and then persecute the hell out of it.
They don't give a shit about fairness or balance or due process or any of that.
January 11th, 2024 at 9:44 PM ^
Miami might be the most ridiculous about it because no one cares about them. They keep going 7-5 so there are no eyes.
not to mention what A&M did which blew up spectacularly.
January 12th, 2024 at 2:36 AM ^
No mate you don't understand. Miami....beautiful beaches, nightlife, food and weather...
If I worked for the NCAA I'd insist on investigating the U or whatever they are know as these days. Over and over...
January 11th, 2024 at 8:13 PM ^
Whatever. Burn it all down. FSU and Michigan should start their own super conference
January 12th, 2024 at 7:00 AM ^
With blackjack! And hookers!
January 12th, 2024 at 8:07 AM ^
When did Louisville get invited?
January 11th, 2024 at 8:14 PM ^
NCAA and FSU have privately negotiated a settlement?
Compare to how the NCAA treats Michigan.
Fuck them all
January 11th, 2024 at 8:15 PM ^
Weird how the NCAA let this process play out before announcing it. As opposed to dropping leaks every day leading to numerous hit pieces and a head coach getting suspended in season without a formal investigation.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:44 PM ^
See the NCAA president’s speech yesterday. It actually makes a ton of sense. Whether we like it or not, they did us a favor. If the Stallions stuff broke in 2 months the champion would have been tainted in some people’s minds. Now, you have to be an idiot to think it is tainted.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:51 PM ^
This. I don't think that's the original intent but it worked out better for us. The real issue is petitti suspending Harbaugh before an investigation or proving he knew it was happening.
January 11th, 2024 at 8:57 PM ^
That’s correct. Dispensing with it early ultimately saved our season.
January 11th, 2024 at 9:09 PM ^
Doesn't mean the NCAA isn't applying a double standard. How come they didn't let FSU's opponents know that FSU was playing with players acquired by illegal means? Seems like a competitive advantage to me.