November 16th, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^
The suspension was already in place and never significantly moved the PSU line either.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:31 PM ^
it even went up a little as it got closer to game time
November 16th, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^
Favorite to beat Maryland? To beat OSU? To win the Big Ten? To win the national title game? Give me some context! I neeeed it!
November 16th, 2023 at 4:10 PM ^
OSU - Maryland is -19
November 16th, 2023 at 4:09 PM ^
Thought I’d seen -6.5 (maybe-6) earlier this afternoon
November 16th, 2023 at 4:33 PM ^
stable now but will move because people who don't know will over react to this suspension and bet heavy on OSU.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:24 PM ^
I doubt enough money will come in to actually move the line
November 16th, 2023 at 4:13 PM ^
Fanduel had Michigan at 5.5 before this news as well. I've been checking multiple times per day. The moneylines haven't moved at all either. Nor have any of the futures. Michigan is still the favorite at all the books I've checked, and around the same odds (between +200 and +220 to win the NC).
Clearly the oddsmakers didn't care about Stalions (nor the "21 point advantage" crocodile tears), nor do they think Ryan Day can outcoach Sherrone
November 16th, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^
The key was keeping Jim with the team during the week. If that hadn't happened, well maybe things would be different.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^
Good thing I bet them at +1200 in early April!
November 16th, 2023 at 4:20 PM ^
Coach Harbaugh's suspension was already priced in.
November 16th, 2023 at 5:27 PM ^
Correction / Agreement - Harbaugh's suspension never had any material impact on the line.
November 16th, 2023 at 5:43 PM ^
This to me was a weak point in Michigan's legal case. Their claim of harm from the suspension rested on the U. of C. study of the value of having a head coach on the sideline for a game. That study found a value but it was fairly small; the Vegas line never twitched at any point as the likelihood of a suspension waxed and waned. The people whose job it is to know didn't see any value at all.
Reputational damage is no doubt real but the injunction wouldn't have changed anything there.
November 17th, 2023 at 4:40 AM ^
This is so stupid. Stop pretending you know what the flaw in the case is when you have no idea.
Harbaugh personally was a party to the case. The harm to him is real whether the team plays worse or not.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:21 PM ^
OSU game odds
November 16th, 2023 at 4:24 PM ^
If all the chest puffing leads to no "binder", no scorched earth, no consequences towards the B1G and its members, the University of Michigan is full of cowards who deserve what they get.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:30 PM ^
We are known cowards.
November 16th, 2023 at 5:18 PM ^
We’re actually not. I’ve been refraining to get into this whole shit storm simply because I’m too old to worry about things I can’t change. Also this was always gonna be a fluid deal (likely still is). The big dropped it, prbly never should have picked it up. Take our medicine, cause ultimately we did things that can’t be undone…right or wrong.
Not having Harbaugh on game day sucks but he’s there during the week. OSU plays us at home, and they’re still as soft as a Taco Bell dump. Get past Maryland and then let the players speak for all of us on thanksgiving weekend!
November 16th, 2023 at 6:30 PM ^
Take our medicine? We jaywalked. This is the equivalent to filing an NCAA eligibility report late. The report is fine but we broke the rule for filing on time. We broke a, per the NCAA, a cost-saving rule. A COST-SAVING RULE. Stalions was experimenting. He was TRYING to gain an edge. If he actually found an edge, then Harbaugh and company would know. Punishment has to fit the crime or someone is being immoral, unethical, and unfortunately not accepted by the judge, illegal. Punishment should be probation or maybe $5,000. What happened to "equal protection under the law?" which also includes equal enforcement of the law. Who else has gotten a 3-game suspension and for what? If the Big 10 contract is that open to allow a personal vendetta then it isn't enforceable as there is no consideration to match that price tag. I know I am mixing criminal law with contract law but what else do we have if we do not have the rule of law? I did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night, but I did get a perfect score on the Michigan SOB tax law exam.
On the other hand, I agree with your second paragraph.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^
The odds are showing stable.
However, the university has a PR nightmare on their hands, reading the other threads. The natives are rioting. Have to wonder how the team is feeling about all of this.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:38 PM ^
Reading other threads does not equate a PR nightmare. I know everyone was out for blood because everyone's angry.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:47 PM ^
Maybe not exclusively but I would wager from the responses there are frustrated fans, alumni, former players, etc. that just might be reactive. That is public relations. If the energy that is currently negative strengthens and is vocal, the media will grab it, amplify it and that will be a problem.
November 16th, 2023 at 5:16 PM ^
All I can think about is how glorious it will be to beat Ryan Day without our coach on the sidelines. The bucknuts will go bananas.
November 16th, 2023 at 5:38 PM ^
I think if there's any movement it'll be this weekend after a second week of Moore as HC. If UM looks good then whatever concerns Vegas would have about coaching continuity would be baked in and minimized.
November 16th, 2023 at 5:50 PM ^
So what you’re telling me is put a Ben Franklin on the sucknuts money line, and win or lose we win? Sounds like a plan to me. I’ll gladly lose a benji for UM to rail off three straight. It would be even worse to Ohio that they got that ass whooped without Jimbo Slice even being out there.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:01 PM ^
I got Michigan at +900 to win the NC back in April. Still feeling pretty good about it. Would be more concerned if Harbaugh couldn't coach during the week or help develop gameplans.
November 16th, 2023 at 9:43 PM ^
Me too.
November 16th, 2023 at 6:18 PM ^
The thumb has been placed on the scale and I doubt this is the last of it. Up to the players to blow up this bullshit.
And the fans. The fans need to make sure the refs know where the fuck they are, and that it ain't the Horseshoe.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:04 PM ^
Who the fuck is USintegrity and why do I know this name now?
November 17th, 2023 at 11:38 PM ^
Now Michigan is a 6 point underdog for 11/25. Yuck.