Rumors swirling that the B1G is adding Oregon, Washington, FSU and Clemson this week
Jack McGuire of Barstool Sports is reporting this...
This would be nuts and groundbreaking if true - adding Clemson seems like a stretch as they are not close to a fit outside of athletics. He says "this week" so we will find out soon.
My wife is a Seminole so it would make our household rooting dynamics much more interesting!!!
Barstool or Brostool?
Ah yes because some rando at Barstool definitely is the only person with one of the biggest stories of the CFP offseason /s
Your lack of respect is downright shameful. Didn't you read the original tweet? This wasn't just a rumor, but a serious rumor!
I don’t want to get the NCAA involved, but… I heard it was not just a rumor, but a VERY serious rumor. My concern level has been elevated…
Hope FSU has a nice fleet of planes.
I saw that too ... and the source. Considering with appropriate grains of salt.
Also seen rumors that the Big 12 is moving towards nabbing Oregon and Washington because the Big Ten is content as is. Also taking with grains of salt.
I'll believe that before I believe this rumor about Clemson and FSU... Oregon and Washington are at least known to be trying to get out of the Pac-12 (well pretty much everyone in the Pac-12 will want out sometime soon I bet, especially if Arizona and ASU leave like has been rumored...)
It is absolutely crazy how bad the leadership is at the Pac9. You still have Oregon, Washington, Stanford and you are being picked apart by a conference with Kansas?? as its flagship? TCU? Baylor? Wild times. The PAC12 shouldve picked the best non-texas, oklahoma teams when they had the chance. Offer the 3 best big12 teams and SDSU with BYU and Boise as backups. Its not the SEC or BIG10 but it would be much better than what the big12 currently is (if USC/UCLA stayed).
I read this last night and thought about sharing, but I realized I would rightly receive a free vacation to Bolivia.
Yeah, I read it too and didn't recognize the source other than someone who was reporting on what someone at Barstool said. That was enough for me to discount it..
I read this last night and thought about sharing, but I realized I would rightly receive a free vacation to Bolivia.
Edit: Oops! Bad connection and thought last post didn't post. ProTip: Never drink and post.
Good lord-- you're boozing on a Monday at 1pm? Not all heroes wear capes...
who says he isn't wearing a cape
Is he wearing anything other than the cape?
In my defense: I was sober the night before when I chose NOT to post. Had some catching up to do.
I am all for wealth building and success, but the combination of humans and money ruin a lot of good things!
I saw this last night and thought about sharing it. But a three-day trip to Bolivia doesn't work for me this week.
We need more unserious rumors.
Rumors swirling the old SWC is re-forming with its classic 8-school lineup. Plus adding the Hartford Whalers and Montreal Expos to get to an even 10
I just can't imagine Clemson (and to a lesser extent FSU) would want to move, nor could they afford it. The ACC schools are locked into a TV deal until mid 2030's and getting out would be incredibly expensive. Oregon and Washington I buy but it would be bananas for those ACC schools to jump ship unless there was some level of financial finagling that exists well beyond normal processes.
The ACC Grant of Rights is going to be significant. The costs…. Unless there’s a mass mutiny / departure - seem destined for the courts.
Yeah - Texas and OU had to write checks around $55M each to get out of their deal and head to the SEC, and that was only because the league's contract is ending relatively soon. I've read the ACC's grant of rights cost would be north of $110M, which would be prohibitive for both of those schools.
Bronx,
I believe you've done this before, dragging down the level of conversation by applying facts and sense. This is your second warning.
Manhattan
You spelled "I Want Adrianna Chechik" wrong
Yeah, seriously doubt this. This is a news shocker shit post where you can increase your sites clicks with the most out there forecast. FSU and Clemson aren't getting out of those Grant of rights anytime soon.
Snagged this list from Reddit. Yellow represents markets where the Big Ten has a team(s). Green shows the adds. That said, most of Philadelphia would claim Penn State, so there are shoulder markets that are not claimed. These are ranked from largest TV market to smallest across the US. Big Ten Network is playing Risk and seems to be doing pretty well. I would rank them 14th, but Harbaugh would say they are higher.
Adding Stanford seems logical for multiple reasons then.
Shouldn't Indianapolis be highlighted? Or have you demoted Indiana to the MAC?
Also, this makes clear we should be bringing in USF and FSU: larger market, AAU membership, and the same number of 10 win seasons since Jimbo Fisher left Tallahassee.
The TV market of the college town where the school is located is not relevant for almost all of these.
interesting
However, having lived in Bay Area I can tell you no one gives a damn about Cal or Stanford
I watched many Michigan games in a Cal pizza bar owned by an Mich Alum..... more business there during Michigan games than the Cal games
But here in Portland they are pretty strong Beaver and Duck fans
so I don't think this is accurate in terms of value
Eye Bee Dee.
In more noteworthy news than some Barstool rumors, Paul Reubens has died.
RIP Pee-wee Herman.
Dogs and cats.... Mass hysteria!!
At this point I just wish they'd wrap the whole P5 into one giant conference with a requirement that you can only play other P5 teams. Get rid of the tomato can 'buy' games that no one cares about and give us 12 weeks of competitive football.
Kinda weird fits, but I'll take it. What about:
- Pitt (PSU rival, good bball school, academics)
- UNC (We already have Maryland somewhat close by, good bball school, academics)
- UVa (Would complement UNC and Maryland, good bball school, academics)
There is only one thing that matters, football tv money. FBS football needs to be its own thing and someday someone is going to realize this. Rutgers flying to LA to swim against USC/UCLA is crazy. Let football be its own thing with its own rules and money. Let the other sports stay regional. Probably too late now but it really makes no sense.
Not what I heard in the rumor swirling circles. I heard it was Washington, Oregon, el Universidad De Mexico, and the Vancouver College of Forestry.
Seems equally plausible.
Given the NFL's recent bent on expanding its fingerprint in Europe, I think University College London, École Polytechnique, University of Heidelburg, and ETH Zürich are better cultural fits.
I don't believe it for a second, but people pooh-poohing Clemson seem to have forgotten the Big Ten currently has Nebraska. I am not bad-mouthing either school-- just saying it's not *that* big of a stretch. And Washington and FSU are both excellent schools. Oregon is somewhere in between, but easily above Nebraska if we're going by general reputation.
Like I said, I don't believe it but I would support it because fuck the SEC.
Isn't there something with Nebraska where the medical center is also somehow part of it and it's reputation and growth does bring added value to the "academics" side of the B1G?
iirc Nebraska had AAU status, but they there was a change to what was considered to be "on campus". Due to the medical school being outside the maximum allowable distance, NU's AAU status was revoked.
I believe that the Presidents have more pull than football fans think. No schools will be added without their ok.
Like I said, I don't believe it but I would support it because fuck the SEC.
Uh oh someone on this board is going to be triggered.
barstool sucks ass.
All these schools would be great, I guess. They've all been to the playoff, Clemson was second to just Alabama in the pre-pandemic CFP era, Oregon has been the most consistent program to not win a natty the last 20 years. FSU is a sleeping giant and Washington....used to be good. And really does have a great fanbase, stadium, traditions, atmosphere.
But the Big Ten is truly not a conference in the way I used to understand it - it is a media rights organization and a scheduling agreement amongst its members. Maybe even a club. But its championship game is going to feel as weird as a BCS title game one of these years. 20 teams? Without divisions, there will definitely be a year where 3 teams have identical records and don't play each other. The usual suspects will falter, and you'll have a Wisconsin-Washington-UCLA 3-way tie....
Actually, that sounds kinda fun. Ok i'm on board let's do this. Brushing off the old BCS tropes, and remember kids: always root for chaos.
Big Ten - NFC
20 teams/ 4 divisions
SEC - AFC
20 teams/ 4 divisions
Let the playoff figure out the rest.
And let the other sports be free of the FBS cash cow tie ins.
B10 Pac - O, W, SC, LA
B10 West - NU, Iowa, Minny, Wiscy
B10 Weak - NW, UofI, IU, PU
B10 Hard - MSU, M, OSU, PSU
B10 East - RU, MD, FSU, Clemson
SEC B12 - UT, OU, A&M, Mizzou
SEC River- Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, MS St
SEC Hills - Tennessee, Vandy, UK, UVA
SEC Coast - UF, UGA, SCAR, UNC
SEC Welcomes You - Bama, Auburn, Utah, ASU
Works
/s, altho i don't hate it more than the rest of expansion
If and when the Big Ten raids the ACC (again), it won't be for FSU and Clemson.