What a colossal choke job against Vanderbilt
They gave up a 9-0 run with barely more than a minute left. Turnovers, fouls, bad defense, horrid inbounds passing, and just plain not handling the pressure. This is how they lost 16 games this year...
Good effort with Jett and Kobe, but good god what way to choke away a game that was won. JFC.
The effort was without Jett and Kobe... Can't edit it now...
I think the team generally plays better without Jett, that's pretty clear. Defense is a million times better. Kobe was missed.
I agree completely. Would’ve been nice to have Kobe out there, but Jett is never needed.
Both players were gone, but they still should have won. Unbelievable.
Incredible that the coaches couldn't come up with a scheme to break the press 3 consecutive times in the last minute. The tried the same play each time with dug running the baseline and no idea what to do after that.
How many "won" games did we blow in the last minute or OT? Sorry, but this is much more on the coaches than the players.
The ‘scheme’ was fine.
First time they broke it fine, TWill got his arm pulled off of the ball with no call.
Second time they broke it fine again and Dug chucks it oob. TWill was in a different position than Kobe usually is.
Third time, TWill wasn’t ready for a pass back to him.
none of that is on the scheme or the coaches. It is mostly a sub playing an unfamiliar role.
Exactly. They got the ball in just fine each time. It's up to individual players to make the right decisions in those crucial situations. Unfortunately, they had to rely on Twill to help break the press because of the absences and he is just a turnover machine. Oh well.
double post
The scheme of putting a player in a position that he had repeatedly shown he can't handle is a scheme problem.
Who would you have had in instead though? There were no good options given all the injuries (and the transfer last offseason)
Baker, Kyatt, Jace? They might screw it up, but Williams has shown that he will probably screw it up.
Bullshit. Those with a keen eye watching Khayat play, know that he never makes a bad pass. He should have been in the game at the end.
Where exactly was TWill dribbling to? The press was already broken, if ya don't dribble into 3 defenders you don't have a chance to turn it over and cause them to foul if ya stop in the center of the court out around the top of the key.
In defense of Dug she will move from the position he was originally at where Dug was throwing it. Also Twill didn't even hustle to try it even save the ball
It’s because Juwan refuses to have enough guards on the roster.
True, but he didn't personally injure the other 3
They did but TW3 had 3 costly turnovers and a foul right after a TO.
It’s amazing more of mgoblog didn’t downvote this stupidity. What a dumb post
You can't go far without outstanding guard play, and between injury 🤕 and other 💩 we didn't have it this season
Onto next year.
Yes, it's over. We've this movie too many times this season.
I have to wonder if this team's culture is failing to succeed.
It’s a disturbing pattern that goes beyond being young
Right. I'm certainly not on the fire Juwan bandwagon, but this is a coaching issue, plain and simple. The players have made the same mistakes over and over in these situations and, as the radio guys put it, there has been no growth in late-game situations.
I don't know what you can do about guys airmailing passes, bobbling inbound passes, blowing point blank layups, and so on. And it was everybody, so you couldn't just say "Juwan should've taken out ______". Even Baker's three being a two factored in. Just bizarre.
So I think one of the core issues is that the players get really tight in these situations. Then they make all these bizarre mistakes. So it's not necessarily the scheme (as other posters have also mentioned), it seems like a lack of confidence. I'm not saying I have the fix for that, but I do think the coaches should.
It must be a Michigan thing, because they had big time issues with Beilein too.
Still weren't half as tight as Purdue at the end, lol.
Michigan was thinking about the next game and getting Morehead at Crisler that they didn't rise to the occasion against Vandy.
Beilein teams were always more fundamentally sound - ball security, spacing awareness, clock awareness, etc. It was obvious they worked on fine details (and later that included improved defensive positioning with Yacklich added).
The last few seasons watching Howard's teams it is clear that these are less of a focus - more emphasis on play speed and recruiting raw talent rather than developing it. Yes, youth is a large problem but it seems more a symptom of team building rather than an unexpected independent problem.
No, the team was ass at the end of games with Beilein. Get a 10 point lead and start running the shot clock with 5 minutes left, every time.
Big difference is we won those games
Whoever negged this dude does not pay attention to the finer points of hoops because what he said is spot on accurate.
Beilein teams also couldn't inbound the ball in late game situations to save their lives.
Beilein’s teams were surprisingly bad at inbounds. It was a liability to simply inbounds in some circumstances.
It must have been a conscious choice to not focus on this capability because Beilein was such a stickler for fundamentals. It was odd.
Yes - I do recall years back they struggled with in-bounds passes but again, they won.
Ask the University of Houston if Beilein's teams can inbound.
Its a Big Ten thing
It was Terry, Terry, Terry, Dug once, then Terry and Terry. It was not everyone who failed the press. It was —$&# Terry. He should have been benched, or, in the least, switched out from being the inbounder after the second time, if not after his first bad one.
He played badly all game, but really bad before even that last minute. He appears to have checked out while checked in. He stared at Hunter rebounding the ball three times on one late game possession where he didn’t even leave his feet ONCE while everyone else was trying to get the ball on Hunter’s two to three misses.
Hunter missed the easiest shot of his day, right at the rim. Baker didn't know where his feet were on an easy (should've been) three. Williams was bad, but it wasn't just him. And who are you going to out in? Reed's an atrocious FT shooter. Jace was getting killed off the dribble. Tschetter?
And the officials “NBA style” continuation play. Wtf was that?
A large part of the problem, which falls right back to the coaches, is this mess of a roster construction. 3 scholarship guards. Your backcourt is who handles late game pressure. We have neglected ours.
Having 3 injured guards on a 13 player roster might be a factor? That is your entire starting backcourt not available.
But- if you are counting Jett who is a 2 or 3 who cannot handle the ball, then that would not have helped in our efforts to handle the press. Kobe missing was a big factor but Vandy was missing their best player. People always seem to think that only we have to deal with injuries.
Even without injury... They have 1.5 D1 level guards,and not a single D1 level 4.
Agree. We must have more than 3 playable guards next year.
Dug was supposed to be #3 really, it's hard to get 4 with the scholly limits.
We were supposed to have Frankie Collins and Terrence Shannon. Roster would have looked just fine.
well, except for the fact that our 4 position is a disaster.
Collins is a greater concern to me since he was someone in the program that looked to have a major role upcoming but bolted (also instances such as Zeb and others who transferred out).
We should never put ourselves in a position of needing to rely on a transfer (e.g. Shannon) to keep the team stable. If one can't build and retain talent internally that is a problem.
Going after short term guys, whether that is freshman phenom one-and-dones or transfers with little remaining eligibility) is not a good way to build a stable program.
You obviously have no idea of what college basketball is about go look at every other team that has all these transfers and players departing
Every team with good players has the *risk* of them transferring... the better staffs and leadership proactively work to prevent it.
Like everyone else, I thought Collins' decision to transfer was weird. But I guess it makes sense if you want to study under the best PG of all-time. But he did not have a great finish last night. In crunch time, he had a handful of turnovers, a shot blocked, missed 2 FTs and passed up an open 3 (because he can't shoot, making him almost unplayable in late game situations), and TCU's big man, pump-faked and went by him to get the winning basket. I don't think losing him was the worst and I think Dug is much better. He's turning into a good shooter; hope he sticks around a while.