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World Cup Postmortem Part 1: A Look Back Comment Count

Brian December 8th, 2022 at 12:41 PM

Hey folks, for obvious reasons I was unable to get out any USMNT content before the World Cup. Complaints can be sent to Sepp Blatter, who will fart on them and then light some money on fire. I did want to get my takes off before the 2026 cycle starts, so.

The US came and went in the World Cup, finishing second in their group after a 1-1 tie against Wales, a 0-0 tie against England, and 1-0 win over Iran. The Netherlands beat the US 3-1, and everyone's just kind of sitting around wondering whether they should be satisfied. Ha, no lol: 70% of people are sitting around wondering that and 30% of people are screaming about Gregg Berhalter bringing Cristian Roldan.

Let's evaluate the performance. First we should ask what a reasonable expectation is.

HOW MUCH TALENT, REALLY?

Sure why not

This is widely regarded as the most talented US team ever. I don't think that's entirely clear, and if it is indeed things aren't that much different. Take the 2010 team, which got out of the group on the famous goal against Algeria and the went out to Ghana in the round of 16. (In terms of performance this is the closest recent analogue; 2006 got farther and while 2014 got as far they played miserably and lucked out.) Let's look at the starting lineups by putting them in approximate bins. These players are in roughly equivalent situations:

Important players at also-rans in top five leagues.

  • 2010: Steve Cherundolo (Hannover 96), Jay Demerit (Watford), Clint Dempsey (Fulham), Michael Bradley (Borussia Mochengladbach).
  • 2022: Antonee Robinson (Fulham), Tim Ream (Fulham), Tyler Adams (Leeds), Yunus Musah (Valencia).

At Milan but not playing.

  • 2010: Oguchi Onyewu.
  • 2022: Sergino Dest. (Dest has ~4 games worth of minutes this season.)

Important players in the French League.

  • 2010: Carlos Bocanegra (Rennes).
  • 2022: Tim Weah (Lille).

EPL goalies.

  • 2010: Tim Howard (Everton).
  • 2022: Matt Turner (Arsenal, but the backup).

Very good career MLS players:

  • 2010: Ricardo Clark (Houston Dynamo legend temporarily failing to break through at Frankfurt).
  • 2022: Walker Zimmerman (Nashville SC).

Those guys are all relatively close in talent level. That leaves just three starters each worth discussing.

One is the "lol what" striker. In 2010 the US was picking between Robbie Findley and Edson Buddle after Charlie Davies's car crash. This year it was Jesus Ferraria, Haji Wright, or Josh Sargent. I think we can call this a wash.

One is Landon Donovan and Landon Donovan 2.0. Donovan was at LA Galaxy because he just wanted to stay at home but is the best player in USMNT history. Christian Pulisic is on track to match him. This is also a wash.

So then you've got Weston McKennie at Juventus, where he's not quite a locked-in starter but is clearly an important player, versus Jozy Altidore in the midst of his horrible no-good season at Hull. Clear advantage 2022.

[After THE JUMP: evaluating performance in four games]

Depth is by definition depth but I don't think there's much difference there either since 2010's bench had field players at Bolton, West Ham, and two at Rangers including Demarcus Beasley. (I know Bob Bradley had installed a very effective system with Davies in the roster but looking back at this it is completely insane that Bradley decided to try out the who-dats at striker instead of just moving Donovan up and making Beasley a starter.) 2022 responds with Leeds, a glass cannon at Dortmund, a 19-year-old at Mochengladbach, and then a serious dropoff. 2022 would have murdered someone for the opportunity to bring a pre-injury Stu Holden off the bench.

The 2022 team has the flashy transfer values but that's because in 2010 these guys were almost all established professionals close to their ceilings. The only guys who had significant runway left were Altidore, then 20, and Bradley, then 22.

The upshot: the 2022 team was not a paradigm shift in terms of talent in the player pool. The youth revolution only got the US back to where it was before Klinsmann ran everything into the ground. It's the next cycle that promises to move the US from a country that has almost exactly eleven guys who can hang at a world-class level to one with a talent base that can expect more than four games.

Meanwhile, the performances were better. The 2010 team needed an all-time gaffe to tie England and drew Slovenia, then went out to a team considerably worse than this Netherlands team. Meanwhile we're about to get into 2014...

HOW DID THEY PLAY?

It's been a while so I'm not sure if these memories persist, but games against world powers used to be agonizing exercises in just trying to get the ball. I find the enduring popularity of Jurgen Klinsmann utterly mystifying—just look at the replies to this Taylor Twellman tweet—since Klinsmann tanked one World Cup cycle and the one time he got to the World Cup, the results were superficially the same as Berhalter's but felt massively different. The USA got out of the group in 2014 but spent almost all of the Ghana game on the back foot and were essentially Costa Rica in a group finale against Germany:

The US had their worst game ever in a World Cup in terms of possession. Germany controlled 67.5 percent of the possession, the most they have had in the tournament so far. It was also the most the US have ever given up in a World Cup game. The previous record was the 2002 quarterfinal when Mexico had 66.3 percent possession against the US. … For much of the game, the USA were unable to get out of their own half. Germany had 525 touches in the opponents' half, while the USA had 189.

They only made the knockouts because Portugal beat a Ghana team that skipped training sessions after their federation tried to cheat them out of their pay. The knockout round game against Belgium saw Howard set a World Cup record for saves. The path forward from that was hard to see, and it wasn't much later when the US was played to a standstill by Haiti in a Gold Cup match, then deservedly lost to Jamaica in the semifinals.

Now we get into the realm of Fancy Stats. Many dismiss these when they do not line up with their priors, but in a low-event sport like soccer I think they're critical if we're trying to sanity check any of our beliefs. And hoo boy, soccer fans have some beliefs. You will not find a single Michigan football fan with a take like "they can't run the ball" or "Blake Corum is bad," but after a major soccer game you can hop on r/ussoccer or (back in the day) the bigsoccer.com message boards and find literally every take under the sun. There will be people swearing up and down that player X was man of the match while at the same time others rant about how he should be dropped forever. Fancy Stats are helpful when we try to argue against people who say things that are patently insane. 

Anyone saying that this was not a positive US World Cup is patently insane. On the surface, 2-1 against Belgium and 3-1 against the Netherlands are kind of the same result. But watching those games felt entirely different. One felt like watching one guy defend the Alamo from a ravenous horde of waffle-throwing maniacs. The other felt like trying to open up the world's biggest Christmas present only to be shivved in the back by a Bass Pro Shop.

I rather prefer the second, and vastly prefer how the US set up and performed in this World Cup than their most recent outing. The Athletic's John Muller has the definitive 1,000 foot statistical overview of this. I highly recommend getting an Athletic subscription; for those that don't, the upshots are that while US possession was 53%, middle of the pack and on par with 2010, the field was tilted in the opposite way that it was in 2014:

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That is a stat that passes the sniff test, with Spain, Argentina, Germany, Brazil, Portugal, England, and France leading the way, and then the little ol' USA next. The Netherlands is the only team generally considered world elite to not slot in at the top. The US ranked even higher in the percentage of possessions that reached the final third, another stat dominated by world elite teams (and South Korea?) and had one of the best counter-pressing success rates in the entire tournament.

And then?

Well, then they crossed the shit out of the ball.

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In and of itself this is a stat with much less grouping of elite teams—you can see France and Portugal down at the bottom and Brazil sort of idling around the middle. It does tilt towards crossing being bad, and that is the developing consensus at the highest levels of club soccer. It is especially bad when one of your games is Jesus Ferraria versus 6'5" Virgil Van Dyke.

All this paints a picture of a team that got almost everything right, especially relative to their talent level, but did not have a coherent plan for breaking down a bunkered defense. YMMV on why this might be. I do think Berhalter bears some blame here. Big, burly target striker Jordan Pefok should have been on this roster, especially when it goes 26 deep. It seems like Plan B when you can't break the bunker is to just meathead up; Berhalter was too committed to Plan A to bring Plan B. In retrospect, you've committed to Tim Weah as a right wing and you've got Jedi Robinson at left back; those guys are always going to be byline guys. You're going to be crossing.

But how much was that going to matter? I don't think it was likely to turn the dial too much. Pefok is one-dimensional and is playing for a mid-level side, where he was on a serious goal drought. Not a game changer.

More broadly, I don't think the pool really provided an answer. You have to start MMA in the midfield, but none of those guys is going to do much to unlock a defense. Adams is a superior defensive midfielder but lacks any regista traits. Musah is currently prime Darlington Nagbe…

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…and while McKennie excels at late runs into the box and got the hockey assist on the Pulisic goal against Iran he's more of a play finisher than a play starter. You've got Pulisic, yeah, and then you've got Dest, but Weah is more of a vertical counterattack guy and striker's a big nothing. Two guys isn't enough.

I hear the ghostly cries: "what about Gioooooooooo?" The question is: who are you taking off for Reyna? The team is built around MMA. You're not taking off Pulisic, and Weah was maybe the team's most effective attacker. The answer in the second half against The Netherlands turned out to be playing without a striker, which didn't really work any more than having an ineffectual striker. I would much rather have played Sargent, who was decently effective connecting the rest of the team on his limited opportunities; he was not available.

Asking someone to do something they don't do at the club level is the kind of thing that sounds good in theory and usually ends in disaster. To me this is like one of those fourth down decisions that is massively consequential but if you punch it into a go-or-not calculator it turns out to be a coinflip. Berhalter didn't really have any good answers. This was maybe 20% his fault.

In summary:

Even if the US is not there yet, they played differently than they ever had at a World Cup. They did not look like they were just trying to hang on. They got booted by a more incisive foe in the round of 16 while playing them largely even. That is a paradigm shift, unlike the talent on the roster.

HOW THEY FAILED

Another way to look at the performances is to look at how things went badly, when they went badly. There were three main ways things went horse-shaped that I don't think are primarily coaching issues, and then some things that do trace back to coaching.

Second-half meltdowns against Wales and Iran. The US lost its pressing impetus in the second halves of both these games and started giving up chances. Against Wales this eventually led to the PK and an equalizer. Against Iran it resulted in 20 minutes of clenched rectums nationwide but nothing else.

This was in part tactical. Berhalter wanted to kill Wales on the counter in the second half and the US spurned opportunities in ways that are more PASS THE BALL TO THE OPEN GUY than anything coaching related…

66th-minute sequence was particularly notable. Wales pressed. The U.S. skipped a line, and won a second ball, just as any coach would have scripted it. Brenden Aaronson found Pulisic in a gaping pocket of space at midfield, and with Tim Weah streaking in behind the Welsh defense from the right.

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But Pulisic didn’t see him.

Or he couldn’t get his feet right. Either way, he picked the wrong pass, and turned a 3-v-3 into a non-dangerous situation.

They're in the positions. You've got Weah streaking, and it doesn't happen. Player more than coach.

Against Iran they had a second goal ruled out by the barest of offsides margins and then ran out of gas in the second half. A lack of depth reared its head, especially with McKennie not quite in game shape after an extended pre-tournament layoff. Dest was not 90 minutes fit because he hadn't been playing, and the US had nobody near the level of either guy. Pressing is a team-wide activity; pressing while you've got a couple guys who aren't totally on point is also known as suicide.

So they had to drop back, and gave up their biggest strength, and soak pressure. Better transition play against Wales makes this a brilliant gambit instead of black mark. See: "Louis Van Gaal masterclass" discourse.

The best team goal in the history of the Netherlands. I mean, ok.

The Netherlands’ opening goal in their 3-1 win over the U.S. was beautiful and the most passes leading to a World Cup goal for them since data records began in 1966.

When one goal in the round of 16 gets a whole ass article on the Athletic, you tip your hat. As I was watching this my thought process went something like "Wow. Wow. Ok. Wow. This seems bad. This is bad. THIS IS VERY BAD."

Outside backs failing to mark guys for reasons that are beyond tactics. The second and third Netherlands goals were Sergino Dest and Antonee Robinson massively busting, in the parlance of football. Both guys had plenty of opportunity to make basic soccer actions that would have prevented goals—or at least made them vastly more difficult. That sucks, but I don't think either error can be laid at the feet of coaching. There's a reason Dest got chased from Barca and isn't playing much at Milan, and that's it. We have seen similar things from him over the course of his career. He's by far the US's best option there but has a fatal flaw.

Robinson… I don't know. Just the worst time to have the worst play of your career. Again, not a thing that you can reasonably fix by picking someone else or screaming "HEY MARK THE GUY WHO IS IN THE SPOT YOU SHOULD BE". This isn't U8s.

Berhalter issues. Inserting Shaq Moore, and then inserting him again, was baffling. Joe Scally may be 19 but has been a Bundesliga starter for almost a year, and there were opportunities to integrate him. The aforementioned lack of a target striker.  Continuing to use Pulisic as a set piece taker despite a whole year of evidence he doesn't do much. A complete lack of set-piece danger in general.

WELL?

Berhalter gets a B+ for this cycle around these parts. He picked up the shattered pieces of the corpse left by Klinsmann, integrated a new generation of players, recruited three important dual nationals (Dest, Robinson, Musah), won the Nations League, won the Gold Cup, took the CONCACAF mantle back from Mexico, and did all this with a lineup that almost never actually got to deploy MMA and Pulisic at the same time. He got the US to Pot 2 in the World Cup draw, managed a tough group—Iran was the top point-getter in Asian qualifying and 3 other Asian teams got through; Wales got through a Euro group with Switzerland, Turkey, and Italy last year—and played The Netherlands about as evenly as the US did in their best-ever World Cup performance, the 2006 quarter against Germany.

In the end they deserved what they got.

I don't think someone else would have done meaningfully better. It's notable that foreign observers were generally very enthusiastic about the USA's performance, describing it as almost as organized as a club team, while the MLS-sux crowd on twitter just rails about every marginal decision while ignoring the larger picture.

As for what this means for Berhalter's future with the USMNT, I'd be fine with continuity here. I would not be torn up if he was replaced. I do think that the US coach should probably be American since this country's system is so different than everywhere else in the world. If I was in charge I would extend Berhalter through (hopefully) the 2024 Copa America and then re-evaluate then.

Comments

MaynardST

December 8th, 2022 at 1:38 PM ^

Boring.  2 goals in 6 hours of playing time, while watching players fake injuries. These are little boys who couldn't hit a curve ball. To make this slightly more interesting, change the offsides rule to the one used in hockey and allow unlimited substitutions.

BTB grad

December 8th, 2022 at 1:42 PM ^

Ahh yes, the classic American who thinks there’s something wrong with soccer so they want to change the rules to Americanize it to something more familiar (like what’s next, let’s add an hour or two of commercial breaks to really make it feel homey?). Based on soccer viewership numbers worldwide and the money flowing in, I doubt they have a problem getting interested viewers. World soccer doesn’t need America. 

BlueLikeJazz

December 8th, 2022 at 2:24 PM ^

This analysis seems mostly spot on to me (although it ends up reading more like Berhalter apologism than player analysis).

The one area I'd quibble is the use of club teams to compare talent. It's a crude tool that doesn't really capture the situation. For one, all Big 5 leagues are not created the same (there's no comparison between the EPL and Bundesliga, for example), and two, it's a very different thing to be in that league at 20-22 than at 28. The current guys we have now are immensely talented, which is why they have broken into these leagues so young. Lack of playing time often has as much to do with injury or just having to unseat a much older incumbent as anything to do with talent.

I'd argue this team's top 12-13 players is easily the most talented we've ever had. What they don't have is big match experience. That will come with time, as well as a better idea how to handle certain situations, and more comfort playing together. But pure talent is not the issue.

BlueLikeJazz

December 8th, 2022 at 3:28 PM ^

Yeah it's a weird argument to be honest. Like the striker comp is 2 middling MLS lifers versus 3 guys who are 1) super young playing in better leagues and/or 2) Have put up seasons better than anything the 2010 era guys did. 

It just seems disingenuous to compare guys trying to break through at top clubs at age 22 to guys who had brief, largely unsuccessful stints at much lesser clubs in the same leagues at age 28.

Number 7

December 8th, 2022 at 2:35 PM ^

I largely agree albeit with less soccer analysis chops to say that without massively hoisting myself up a few levels.  

Two points I can address though:

-To "Netherlands best goal in its World Cup history" I say Denis Bergkamp! Denis Bergkamp!  Denis Bergkamp

-To nothing else in particular I say "How about some love for Tim Ream?" Super steady in the back, and not at fault (as far as I can tell) for any of the breakdowns against.

funkifyfl

December 8th, 2022 at 2:41 PM ^

Agree with most of what you said, but I think it's best for everyone involved if GGG moves on, after maaaaaaybe a short extension while they find a manager. The soccer "cycle" of team-building is a real thing, and managers either get blind spots for the guys they trust, or they lose the team for cutting some of the same guys. The guys also tend to tune out a manager after some time, and either the players need a refresh or the manager does.

 

I'd rather that GGG leave on good terms now, so he can continue to develop as a manager. It also makes bringing him back later on a nicer proposition.

MgofanNC

December 8th, 2022 at 2:45 PM ^

We are a Young team. I think, if these guys stay healthy (big if) and the team stays more or less together we have a good chance to be better in 26. But this team has to figure out how to finish in the offensive end (3 goals in 4 games is not good). I've never been a huge fan of the "cross it into the box" approach as it basically creates a 50/50 ball that because it is lofted allows the defense to flock to. Not sure why that has been such a popular approach. Would much rather see shots from the top of the box with chances for deflection than crosses (taking a page from hockey here) Also, the corner kicks I saw were brutally bad. Seems we don't really have a guy who is consistent at those. 

Also, this team needs to condition for 90 minute games not 70 minute games. Seems we ran out of gas in the back end every time (which is odd when you are winning possession). That, I think might have been the scout against us some too as it seemed teams were content to let us wear ourselves out in the first half and then dominate us in the second half.  

Finally, counter punching seems to me to be the theme of this Cup. Saudi against Argentina, Japan against Germany, etc. etc. Good teams got beat by teams having great finishes on limited opportunities. I get that building a game plan and team around that is counter intuitive but with Spain, Germany, Belgium, Denmark already out and Argentina getting a scare early I'm not sure how impressive it is to be lumped in with those teams in the fancy stats. 

ak47

December 8th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^

I think Berhalter did fine in the world cup. He had the team prepared and ready to go at the beginning of every game. I don't think you are giving him enough blame for the second halves of the Wales and Iran games though. The US was clearly better than Wales and sitting back was asking for trouble. Sure they could have scored on a counter but every team in the world messes that sort of play up multiple times a game. That is why teams playing that way to get an upset don't generally get the upset. The team with the ball creating lots of chances tends to score more. In both the Wales and Iran game they changed tactics and played scared, that was a poor coaching decision.

What makes me think it would be better if we moved on from Berhalter is the qualifying performances. CONCACAF was bad this year. Real bad. Being unable to consistently create and score goals against teams like Panama shows the struggles go beyond playing some better teams in the world cup. Over the last year the US has one win against a team that won in the world cup and that was the Iran game. In that time they tied Uruguay and Saudi Arabia and lost badly to Japan. Berhalter isn't bad, but I'd give him more like a B- grade. It doesn't feel like a big risk to move on because he feels replacement level and maybe moving on helps unlock a higher level. Plus when guys stay on for multiple cycles they develop "their guys". I don't want Shaq Moore getting playing time over Scally. Every coach does it but its going to be good to have a guy with fresh eyes for the player pool as they move into their primes

alum96

December 8th, 2022 at 2:58 PM ^

Adams was world class at what he did.  He made himself a lot of money (and Leeds too).  I'll be curious what larger club he moves to.  Ream played really well.  Too bad he will be aged out by next WC.  Reyna playing time still a mystery to all.  Even if you love Weah he need not play 90. 

The biggest issue was depth.  In game 3, Adams made one mistake the entire tournament and US was punished by it.  Dest gives and takes - he gave more than normal offensively but he did Dest things on defense for another goal.  Jedi ran probably the most 2nd to Adams in this tourney. When you get tired you make these mental errors or just don't have the legs.  All the goals conceded were identical - a late run in and not marked.   Musah touches on the ball in that game were also "big" = tired legs. He is 20. Asking too much of these guys.

Depth.  Not having people available that are trusted is a big issue.  This is an intensely physical tournament that requires depth to get to the latter stages.  They mocked Southgate for a lot of changes in 1 of the games but he had the group in hand and could play for draws and had a fresh side for their first game out of group stages.  France, Brazil, etc can roll out full 2nd lineups that can hold up vs most countries in the world.  I suspect (hope I am wrong just for the fun aspect) you will start to see this issue affect Morocco. 

All these guys above had the benefit of extreme youth (think the difference between a 23 year old and a 27 year old).  They will hold up worse the next time around - need a guy who can play left back for 20-25 minutes a game so Jedi can make those awesome runs.  Need a help for Dest (Shaq Moore being on this roster, no less playing was a shock to me), need help for the midfield.  Center back is really the only position you can keep those guys out there the whole tourney since it's the least running spot on the pitch.   Also not having a reasonable 9 is a generational issue for USA.  Spain usually has it too but has world class players everywhere else.  We do not.

Set pieces complete waste of time.  Our man Maguire was laughing at the corners.  USA used to be really solid at set pieces because that's really one of the few ways they could compete.  Now despite (tell me again Stu!) hiring a set piece coach, they were awful. Fire that guy. 

With all that said Netherlands put on a master class on counter attacking and parking the bus.  They have a world class coach.  We sort of fell into their trap. 

 

https://twitter.com/usmntonly/status/1598462193120735232

 

Needs

December 8th, 2022 at 3:54 PM ^

I dont think the Netherlands so much parked the bus as set a trap for the US in the MF.  They had the US very well scouted and had a good plan. Let the CBs have the ball, man mark the midfield and challenge the CBs to pass the ball over the top, on long diagonals out to the wing, or to make precise line-splitting passes to mid-fielders on the half turn. When they turned the US over, they got lots of guys forward.

The US could have really used Sargent (or Pepi) in that match in order to try to play over the top and hold the ball up. Ferreira dropping into the MF just congested things even more. 

Honestly, having a top European side formulate a gameplan to counter what the US was trying to do is, in itself, a sign of progress. 

Moleskyn

December 8th, 2022 at 3:24 PM ^

If I was in charge I would extend Berhalter through (hopefully) the 2024 Copa America and then re-evaluate then.

Isn't this the worst possible path forward? Seems to me a mid-cycle coaching change would be disastrous for the '26 WC. Either you go all in with Berhalter and stick with him through '26, or you make a change now so the new coach can establish himself with the team and organization before it's too late for '26.

BlueLikeJazz

December 8th, 2022 at 3:40 PM ^

2 things about that:
 

1) If you have a clear upgrade ready, then yes making the switch now would be better, but they have competitions coming up in 23 too (just the NL but still) so going any length of time without a manager and/or just getting someone in who's not a great choice would be problematic

2) They don't have to qualify for '26 since we're hosting, so there's a bit more leeway as far as timing. 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

December 8th, 2022 at 4:26 PM ^

Isn't it the opposite?  Without playing in the qualifiers, a mid-cycle change means any new coach is going to have to get creative to find opportunities to put this team together.  Must schedule friendlies to replace the hexagonal games and every other chance they'd have (although in fairness, if they do, they should learn more than they would in an early qualifier against Barbados or something.)  But in any case, if you make a change after '24, I'd argue there's less leeway, not more.

mgobaran

December 8th, 2022 at 3:57 PM ^

Isn't this the worst possible path forward? Seems to me a mid-cycle coaching change would be disastrous for the '26 WC.

I wouldn't be worried about that this time around. Since we are automatically qualified as hosts, it's not nearly as important that we are in full form at the start of WQC. 

sFX

December 8th, 2022 at 3:35 PM ^

Scoring goals in soccer is flipping hard and no national team is immune to it, not Germany (lol), not Brazil. And this was the first US World Cup performance where I felt that the team had figured out almost everything else. The US controlled a lot of the play, strategically had a lot of advantage and then got hit with some defensive breakdowns (Zimmerman's PK ceded, #2 and #3 Dutch goals) that are player mistakes, and against Wales the cost to the press that got them a 1-0 lead still was only paid back when Zimmerman screwed up.

I'd compare the 2022 World Cup and its lead in to 2018/2019 Michigan football (minus the OSU games). USA/NED has a lot of similarities to the Citrus Bowl vs Bama - couple breaks go the other way and it's a super close game. In this analogy it's Shea Patterson hitting open deep shots and the USA remembering to mark in the penalty box. Berhalter may need to change a couple things though, which I'll suggest below.

 

1. Set pieces. Yeah, they were that bad. I'm less concerned they didn't score and more concerned that none even seemed dangerous, and having Pulisic take them also removes a player with a great first touch, finishing skill, and ability to knife through a defense from being able to receive the ball. I think the idea should be either directly shooting them or finding a way to spark plays that aren't pseudo-crosses (see below). Goalies are too big, too strong, and too advantaged in the box for a lot of this to work (also applies somewhat to crosses).

2. Crossing. Stop doing it for now. I think soccer is going to experience something similar to hockey in a recognition that there's a House and you want shots from it. Soccer players seem pathologically opposed to shooting the ball, until they are down a goal or two late and then they are shooting into a packed box and vulnerable to counters. Shoot early, shoot often, and just focus on getting the ball on goal. It literally does not matter if you shoot it right at the goalie, that's obviously not intended and less than ideal, but it's gotta be a higher xG than what most other possessions in the final 3rd look like. Would love to see a shot chart for soccer like basketball that breaks it down into on-goal, off-goal, and then for the on-goal ones which are goals, secured saves, or rebounds.

3. Strikers. If you don't have one, play without one. I think that's where you can put in a Gio as a way to give MMA or Pulisic a breather by having Gio take over their responsibilities for a bit while they act as the temporary striker. Just get your talented, dynamic players out there and see what happens.

mgobaran

December 8th, 2022 at 3:42 PM ^

I think Klinsmann did a great job with the youth development in this country. Dest, Robinson, CCV, Scally, Adams, Reyna, McKennie, Pulisic, Aaronson, LDLT, Ferreira, Wright, Weah, and Sargent were all between ages 8 & 14 when JK took on the role of manager/technical director.

In 2016 the LA Times wrote about how Klinsmann reformed the program and that the results were TBD. 

This WC squad is the fruit of that labor. We've since turned over national development program to regional ones ran by the MLS clubs. I don't expect those to produce the same talent of this batch. 

And I disagree with your talent evaluation. Donovan was great for the US for his time but was not as highly rated worldwide as these kids are now. Donovan's stats in top 5 leagues (39 games, 2 goals, 10 assists) are surpassed by Pulisic (24), Adams (23), McKennie (24), Reyna (20), Weah (22) and Aaronson (22) who are all at least a WC cycle younger than Donovan was in 2010.

Just look at the hardware these guys have as important contributors in Europe:

The Champions League (Pulisic), 3 Pokal Cups (Pulsic, Adams, Reyna), 1 Supercoppa (McKennie), and Weah has won the league title with every team he's been on (PSG, Celtic, Lille).

When it's all said and done, I think Pulisic will be looked at as markedly better than Donovan, with Reyna & Musah surpassing Pulisic, and Adams/McKennie nipping at LD's heels. Pulisic's 0.84 Goal Contributions per 90 vs. Donovan's 0.61 tells the story. He also has 19 goal contributions in 23 WCQs, only 3 behind Donovan, in less than half the minutes played, against a better version of Concacaf.

TL;DR the talent on this roster is much better than 2010, they just need to grow up a bit more to realize it. AND you can thank Klinsmann for it!

Needs

December 8th, 2022 at 4:14 PM ^

I think you're drawing a conflict between Klinsmann's ideas of youth development and the current MLS focused one that doesn't really exist. A key part of Klinsmann's revision of the youth system was pushing MLS clubs to start real youth academies and a reserve league. His most important focus was deemphasizing college soccer as playing any part of youth development and trying to shift away from the pay-to-play club system for the highest level players. The real marker of his changes is that the only players on the team that played college soccer were the goalies and Tim Ream, Yedlin, and Zimmerman, ie, the oldest players on the team

While he kept a US residential US national academy (that's since disappeared) as a feature of the youth system, only Pulisic, Wright, and Sargent really had that as their primary path to European clubs. Adams (Red Bull), Weah (briefly Red Bull before PSG), Reyna and Scally (NYCFC), the  Aaronson brothers and Mark MacKenzie (Union), Ferreira, Shaq Moore, and McKennie, as well as Chris Richards and Reggie Cannon (Dallas) all came up through MLS academies in their mid to late teens before moving to Europe.

Dest (Ajax), Robinson (Everton), LDLT (Fulham) and CCV (Spurs) all came from almost completely outside the US system.

los barcos

December 8th, 2022 at 3:56 PM ^

I think Gregg pulled off the equivalent of a James Franklin's PSU team that goes 9-3, but never really seem to take the leap from good to great or elite.  Going into this world cup, Gregg did the bare minimum - but also, oddly enough, realistically got to the maximum level this team was ever going to achieve. 

It says something about something that we've only made it past the first knockout round once - that being a win over our Concacaf brothers.  Which is why I don't feel particularly strong about keeping Gregg around.  Grant Wahl has extensive data showing that second cycle managers underperform relative to expectations - and US absolutely cannot choke in 2026.  Gregg did well, but not amazing enough that one feels like he HAS to be back.  

Drenasu

December 8th, 2022 at 3:57 PM ^

One thing I would add on the first Dutch goal:  Either Adams needs to be hauling ass back to mark up at the top of the 18 or Musah needed to mark that space.  I lean towards Adams being at fault because the goal scorer just jogged from about the same spot faster than Adams did who easily could have closed that down.  That he didn't leads me to think that Adams must somehow not have noticed him. He's the defensive center mid though, it's his job to clean that sort of thing up.

Saying that was the best goal in Netherlands history is absurd.  The scoring play was essentially a cross to the top of 18 and a good finish which is a very basic soccer play/tactic.  Lots of great passing leading up to that though, sure.

m1jjb00

December 8th, 2022 at 4:14 PM ^

You don't give enough opprobrium for the Netherlands' first goal.  A guy running free to the top of the box is bad defense.  It only looks good in comparison to the other two, which were defensive howlers.  The good news is that can be fixed with experience.

No one has a plan to unlock a team with 11 back.  Or the plan is pass like the Spanish or have a guy who can put three guys in a blender in a phone booth.

Even so, I think they carried the play more than teams of the past, so I wouldn't be too down.

CaliUMfan

December 8th, 2022 at 4:25 PM ^

I started watching soccer in the 2010 world cup and it was MGOBlog's coverage thereafter that got me more and more into the tactics of it to the point where I am now an LAFC season ticket holder and a full on obsessive when it comes to the USMNT (like daily podcasts obsessive). So A) I want to say thanks to Brian and B) where I used to come to this blog to learn what I should think about a performance, it now operates as a good sanity check for my own internal analysis. 

This totally tracks. I am against 2 cycle coaches in general and think we should move on but the #BerhalterOut and #MLSsucks people have been driving me crazy. There is no garuntee that we can find a coach who will do better than Berhalter, though I think any coach (including Berhalter) is likely to do better given the state of the player pool (partially thanks to Berhalter). 

Hotel Putingrad

December 8th, 2022 at 5:27 PM ^

US Soccer has been basically treading water for 20 years in the middle depths of the pool. They'll only be threats at the World Cup level when they can throw out a world class striker. Unfortunately those are born, not developed.

It was a fun week or so to see us against high level competition, but in the end, we're still just "happy to be there."

snarling wolverine

December 8th, 2022 at 5:32 PM ^

I'm much less sanguine about the game against the Netherlands.  Our defense was brutal, with huge blunders on all three Dutch goals.  I didn't think their first was that spectacular.  Memphis just beat Adams downfield and was left unmarked for an open shot.  Frankly it felt to me like the Dutch were toying with us.  We scraped out an ugly goal to cut it to 2-1 and they promptly carved through our nonexistent defense a third time moments later. 

Our midfield is getting there, and can hold its own against most other countries (hence the improved possession figures) but up front and in back we still need to get a lot better if we want to start winning these types of games.  The Dutch are good, but no one's picking them to lift the trophy.

SoullessHack

December 8th, 2022 at 7:23 PM ^

I miss USMNT talk on MGoBlog!  So happy to see this back 

That said, I would echo what others have said in this thread -- namely, that when evaluating the current crop of USMNT player Brian is conflating talent with achievement.  Yes, there are similar numbers of players at "also rans" in the Top 5 leagues, but (again, as others have pointed out), Tyler Adams (and Josh Sargent) starting week in and week out for a Leeds team that is fighting for its life in the Premiership is not the same as Michael Bradley getting time with Borussia.  Same with Antonee Robinson at Fulham.  Heck, Tim Ream just got named checked by Pep Guardiola in the Fulham - Man City post-game press conference.

Pulisic, McKennie, Musah, Weah, Sargent, Aaronson, Reyna, Dest... these guys are, top-to-bottom, more talented than any group of attacking players the US has ever had and I don't think it's particularly close.  The coach's job is to turn that talent into results.  3 goals in 4 games ain't it.  

Yes, the roster is unbalanced due to a glut of midfield / wide attacking players, but... figure it out, man.  You have four years.  Which brings me to my biggest reason why I think giving Berhalter B+ is way too generous.  It took the players almost two years to figure out what the heck he even wanted them to do.  

How many of those early USMNT matches after Berhalter took over did you see players confused and frustrated because they literally didn't know what Gregg Berhalter wanted them to do?  Way too many.  However, he didn't change or adapt his ideas to the roster he had.  He just got into weird, years-long beefs with John Brooks and an even more weird, years-long love affairs with Aaron Long.  Saying that we "dominated" Canada after losing 2-0?  (That game turned out to be quite similar to the 3-1 loss to The Netherlands.  We had a huge possession advantage, more shots on goal, etc.)

Speaking of his system, if you, as a coach, are counting on Sergino Dest and Antonee Robinson to play 90 minutes of mistake-free football while sprinting up and down the field for 4 games in 12 days?  You're gonna get got. 

He's tactically inflexible, he picks weird fights (John Brooks, plus asking Gio Reyna to tell the press that he's injured), the only reason he got the job in the first place is because his brother was running the USSF at the time... and finally, 3 goals in 4 matches.  Not with this roster. 

The USMNT finished 3rd in a very weak CONCACAF cycle.  We finished 2nd in our group.  We got played off the field in the knockout rounds... that's not a B+ to me.  That's time to move on.

Blue Highlander

December 8th, 2022 at 10:22 PM ^

Things I don’t get about soccer:

Why don’t they do something about those snipers in the stands kneecapping players in the field?

How do said players recover from those shots so quickly and completely?

Why is it so hard to get a shot on goal, but a penalty shot is practically a gimme?

SpacemanSpiff

December 17th, 2022 at 10:16 PM ^

The graphic on crosses into the penalty areas really got me thinking. I mostly watch the Bundesliga. My team, VfB Stuttgart, have a left back (Croatian Borna Sosa) with a lethal cross from his left foot. We're sitting in relegation danger right now. We used to have a 6'8" Austrian (Sasa Kaladjzic) as a target for Sosa. Without Sasa, Sosa can't do much. The US doesn't have a tall target forward for our wings to bomb crosses into, so what's the point?

Brian's point about crosses and soccer more broadly is something I've been thinking about since I read this piece a few days ago. Most teams have tall, leapy, center backs who can make finding space for headers off lobbed in crosses very difficult. Unless you have your own 6'8" Austrian, you're gonna have a bad time. so teams need to adjust. How do you beat a skyscraper of a central defender? Speed? Better ball movement? Some combination? I don't think the answer is MOAR CROSSES!!!

 

Thanks for the insights Brian. Looking forward to part 2!