October 20th, 2021 at 11:04 PM ^
Good for Vegas
October 21st, 2021 at 2:40 PM ^
Bad for me. I love betting on Coastal so this was a loser but I’ve made more than I’ve lost with them the last 2 seasons.
October 20th, 2021 at 11:13 PM ^
I just took down a sixer of keyster
October 20th, 2021 at 11:14 PM ^
Good for morning shits
October 21st, 2021 at 2:01 PM ^
Thanks for sharing.
October 21st, 2021 at 2:23 AM ^
Of the two Michigan-App State games played, you could make an argument that the more embarrassing of the games was App State getting trucked by 2014 Brady Hoke
October 21st, 2021 at 5:07 AM ^
And you would lose that argument.
October 21st, 2021 at 10:42 AM ^
The fact that we scheduled the rematch in 2014 was the embarrassing part
October 21st, 2021 at 1:51 PM ^
Refusing to ever play them again and forever be 0-1 against them would have been worse.
October 20th, 2021 at 11:15 PM ^
Fewer /Stannis
October 21st, 2021 at 2:00 AM ^
Would expect nothing LESS from the Mgocommunity /the one true king
October 21st, 2021 at 6:55 AM ^
One fewer bell to answer
One fewer egg to fry
One fewer man to pick up after
I should be happy, but all I do is cry.
October 21st, 2021 at 10:29 AM ^
An early 1970 release by The 5th Dimension.
October 21st, 2021 at 4:16 PM ^
Where have you gone Marilyn McCoo?
October 21st, 2021 at 8:20 AM ^
Clicked on the thread specifically to upvote this comment. Can't believe it was so far down - I thought it would be the first one.
October 21st, 2021 at 4:16 PM ^
This certainly calls for Weird Al's take: https://youtu.be/8Gv0H-vPoDc?t=56
October 21st, 2021 at 10:51 AM ^
The Chicago Manual of Style would disagree:
"Fewer" is used in case of countable nouns of two or more.
So, "one less team" and, e.g., "two fewer teams."
October 21st, 2021 at 11:02 AM ^
I believe you need some additional context regarding singular nouns. From the CMOS:
If the countable noun is plural, choose fewer; if it’s singular, choose less. (When CMOS says to reserve fewer for countable things, it’s talking about plural countable things. When it says to reserve less for mass nouns, it means singular mass nouns.) One is always singular: there is one less food group in the new pyramid; there is one less number in this column. Two (or more) is plural: there are two fewer food groups in the new pyramid; there are three fewer numbers in this column.
October 21st, 2021 at 4:18 PM ^
I prefer the shitposting manual.
October 21st, 2021 at 4:25 PM ^
The grammar police is out in force today. Or is it are out in force?
So, since the police are making a house call, a few questions:
1. What's up the the Brits (and Canadians) dropping "the" from such things as university or hospital? Such as "If I have to watch Jared Goff anymore you will need to take me to hospital."
2. So when referring to a team, is it "State is (or are?) a joke?
October 21st, 2021 at 10:13 PM ^
Oh hell, I might as well jump in here.
The Brit tendency to drop"the" is known as a regional affectation. An example of an American (USA) affectation is the dropping of words like us, me, you, etc. when discussing accompanying someone: "hey, why don't you come with".
Regarding singulars (that's fun to type) and plurals? The Spartans (as a multi member collection, (underscore the plural members of singular noun, collection)) suck - is grammatically correct. When contemplating the various members (note the plural), then it's grammatically correct to indicate that the Spartans are morons, etc..
English is considered the hardest language to learn because it is mostly contextual, that is, it lacks the highly formal rules of ancient Latin or even its romance language children like French.
Okay, I'll stop now.
- Rackham '75
October 22nd, 2021 at 3:05 AM ^
Great information. I come to mgoblog to improve my football and non-football knowledge.
October 22nd, 2021 at 11:56 AM ^
I'm honestly not trying to be snarky or difficult, but what is the "additional context" added by passage that you quote. It simply repeats what I said in the original post: in the case of nouns that are both countable and plural, the use of "fewer" is correct, while "less" is incorrect. In the case of countable nouns that are singular, "less" is acceptable (just as is evidently the case in describing a portion of a continuous whole). So the language of the OP is just fine.
October 22nd, 2021 at 9:11 PM ^
Understood you are disagreeing without snark, but the OP is grammatically incorrect. OP is discussing a multi-member group comprising defeated and undefeated teams. The context? One of those groups now has fewer members, not "less members".
This language is borderline impossible ...
Supermarket checkout line outrage: ten items or less.
October 21st, 2021 at 5:16 PM ^
No... not in this case.
October 20th, 2021 at 11:17 PM ^
As this was the second ranked team App State has beaten, the announcers just had to keep mentioning App State's first win against a ranked team.
I still have bad memories of watching that game at the Big House.
October 20th, 2021 at 11:18 PM ^
I bet none of us have good memories of watching that game
October 20th, 2021 at 11:21 PM ^
Good point. I was just thinking that I'd been on vacation with my family and made a special effort to get us to the game, so it's always felt a little personal.
[Thursday morning EDIT]: also, the last minute decision to attend meant we stayed in a hotel full of App State fans and sat surrounded by App State fans, so I already felt like an outsider at a Michigan game. Fortunately, after their team won, they were happy but very nice, both exulting with each other and commiserating with me.
It was a bizarro world that day.
October 20th, 2021 at 11:21 PM ^
First game I ever walked out of before it was officially over.
Did the same fucking thing the next weekend when Oregon was jail sexing us at halftime.
October 20th, 2021 at 11:53 PM ^
Yeah, that Oregon game was bullshit. Dennis Dixon ran an option play in the red zone on one drive - handed it off - and they scored a touchdown. Next time in the the red zone they ran the same play, save he kept it. Touchdown.
October 21st, 2021 at 6:00 AM ^
yeah - App State was awful but we didn't really show up. Oregon was the first time I can remember UM just not even belonging on the same field as an opponent (little did I know!!) and was depressing in a different way.
October 21st, 2021 at 8:46 AM ^
you must have missed the 98 Syracuse game with Donovan McNabb
or the 91 game vs Florida State
both games we got run off our own field
October 21st, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^
I was at both of those. The FSU game wasn't *that* bad. We were down 31-23 at half and we were still in it with 4 minutes left, down 44-31 with the ball in their territory. Now the Cuse game was a complete fiasco, we could do nothing on either side of the ball and were down 38-7 before Cuse called off the dogs and let us score a bunch of garbage time TDs to make it look a lot closer than it was.
October 21st, 2021 at 9:54 AM ^
"Awful"? Didn't App State repeat as FCS Champions that season?
October 21st, 2021 at 11:23 AM ^
Repeat for the third time in a row. Incidentally beat Delaware with Joe Flacco in the championship game. That let them beat the winged helmets twice that year.
The worst loss to me was Toledo. That team was so bad they fired their coach at the end of the season.
October 21st, 2021 at 12:11 PM ^
Yeah depends how you view it. They were a good team who played together. They were also a team with 53 scholarship players, almost all of whom were undersized/slower than the UM players across from them
October 21st, 2021 at 2:43 PM ^
Unfortunately, key offensive weapons Armanti Edwards (QB) & Dexter Jackson (WR) were not part of the "almost all" which you speak of. Edwards ran a 4.41 at the combine, while Jackson ran a 4.33. For fast QB reference, Shoelace ran a 4.43.
October 21st, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^
to clarify:
- App State was not an awful team
- watching the Horror was an awful experience.
October 21st, 2021 at 5:07 AM ^
I have no good memories of watching that game because it was not available. That was the first (or second) year of BTN and it wasn't offered where I was that weekend.
October 21st, 2021 at 8:27 AM ^
It was the first year for BTN, and actually, that game was the very first college football game that BTN aired live, so in essence, our humiliation was their inauguration.
Fortunately, it was largely unavailable in southeastern Michigan at the time - BTN didn't appear on Comcast here until early 2008, I think. UNFORTUNATELY.....I was there in person.
As others have mentioned, the Oregon game was one of the first times I had - to that point - ever seen Michigan not even be on the same plane as their opponent. As I recall at the time, the 32-point margin of loss was their worst margin of loss since 1968. Obviously, we've outdone that since then.
October 21st, 2021 at 10:08 AM ^
Both Michigan & OSU (vs. YSU) played that day to kick-off the network. By the second half I was watching more of the Michigan game than OSU.
Also, that Oregon game the following week...I am convinced the team was still numb and had a numb week of practice, not believing that what happened had actually happened.
Then in the presser after the Oregon game, "Blake Corum but slower" spoke up with some fire & intensity and I bet Michigan had an angry week of practice, the best week of practice those players ever had, and them came out and whalloped ND. (I think 38-0?)
October 21st, 2021 at 12:29 PM ^
As bad as it was of a coaching job for Lloyd and staff to let a team get that complacent, it was almost as impressive how that squad rallied after Oregon. Eight straight wins until an unfortunate Henne AC joint problem at the end. And of course the Tebow Citrus bowl.
October 21st, 2021 at 10:57 AM ^
As a student, the beginning of the 1998 season was the only comparison. We came out flat in the second half at ND and lost the lead and the game and then Syracuse dominated us the next week. I stayed for all of the game, just because Donovan McNabb played like Barry Sanders, but with an arm cannon.
Then we caught fire and won all our games until The Game. Almost similar to 2008, except Hart and Henne broke down prior to Wisconsin.
October 21st, 2021 at 2:05 PM ^
Exactly. I was listening to the game in Ypsi with friends and once we got down two scores I drove down and parked at Bush's. I then walked to the stadium and someone literally gave me a ticket.
I was still hung over after hanging with the Ypsi crew the night before and after the horror, I puked in an empty trash barrel. Compared to the game, that was the highlight of the whole event.
October 21st, 2021 at 10:02 AM ^
It was the one game I completely missed in the past 20+ years because I was on an airplane at the time.
October 21st, 2021 at 1:54 PM ^
I do have one good memory from that game. Mike Hart had a fantastic touchdown run of about 50 yards, one of the best of his career. Unfortunately some other things happened in that game, too.
October 20th, 2021 at 11:20 PM ^
Yes, I was pulling for App in this game (my oldest son and I went to MICH, my youngest went to App) but I could have done with out those references and highlights as well.