Lincoln Riley States Entire Position Group Minus 1 Test Positive
August 25th, 2020 at 3:14 PM ^
Exhibit #178,001 for why this just won't work.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:29 PM ^
What do you mean? Lincoln Riley is working on herd immunity so he can field a football team.
/s (I think)
August 25th, 2020 at 7:34 PM ^
LSU, Clemson and 0hi0 State are way ahead of ‘em.
August 25th, 2020 at 8:09 PM ^
Except research now shows you can catch this again. Herd immunity is non-existent.
August 25th, 2020 at 8:22 PM ^
Of course you can. Whoever thought you couldn’t? It’s a corona virus, just like the common cold.
August 25th, 2020 at 8:27 PM ^
The "common cold" is not a single virus but other than that exactly the same.
August 26th, 2020 at 2:13 PM ^
SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus now has many mutations as well.
August 26th, 2020 at 4:10 PM ^
The common cold is more typically caused by rhinoviruses or noroviruses than coronaviruses.
August 25th, 2020 at 8:25 PM ^
We might want to come up with some plan other than stay at home and wait for a vaccine then.
August 25th, 2020 at 9:26 PM ^
Three people confirmed is a little weak to declare herd immunity is nonexistent. The fact that such a low number of re-infections have been detected to date is a good indicator that a fair amount of immunity is created overcoming Covid infection. Here is a good discussion of the issue if you want to move past the bullshit you posted
https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/25/four-scenarios-on-how-we-might-develop-immunity-to-covid-19/
August 25th, 2020 at 9:50 PM ^
Yes, I agree with you. A couple of incidents is not a case study.
August 25th, 2020 at 10:32 PM ^
Most major health organizations seems to think the likeliest scenario is that a first infection gives a person some short-term immunity lasting perhaps a few months. Then a person can possibly get reinfected. It’s possible that a reinfected person may endure milder symptoms because of some residual immunity.
August 25th, 2020 at 3:14 PM ^
I'm sure the season they wanted in the Big 12 would go very well without an offensive line.
August 25th, 2020 at 3:16 PM ^
Maybe it's a defensive unit and in that case, were they ever really there in the Big 12 anyway?
August 25th, 2020 at 9:17 PM ^
....or just maybe the ass eating unit, lot of that going around.
August 26th, 2020 at 2:21 AM ^
That's gonna get old fast.
August 26th, 2020 at 10:45 AM ^
Keith Jackson and canned gravy beg to differ with you.
August 25th, 2020 at 3:17 PM ^
I wonder if they're using the same testing facility as the NFL.
August 25th, 2020 at 11:49 PM ^
What a disaster that is.
August 25th, 2020 at 3:17 PM ^
This is something people often forget when it comes to team sports. If a player gets infected, who are they most likely to spread it to? Their position group. You could only have 5 positive tests on a team but if it’s all in the same position group it will devalue the season when a team has to play their third string DL for potentially two weeks in a row. I’d rather wait til better tests are available - which seems fairly likely - so that we can have more certainty of a more legitimate season.
And you just know that we would have headed into the OSU game undefeated only to have our entire OL and DL have to sit out due to COVID.
August 25th, 2020 at 3:21 PM ^
Holy shit. It's almost......I mean stay with me here cause I'm about to REALLY make a leap conjecture-wise.....I mean with a report like that one might be led to think this virus is somehow......
CONTAGIOUS
August 25th, 2020 at 4:34 PM ^
Won't matter to those who think its no worse than a common cold.
August 25th, 2020 at 3:26 PM ^
Entire position group was asymptomatic.
The B1G has gotten a lot wrong in regards to this upcoming season but the one thing they got right was the schedule.
It is better to play early and allow for bye weeks for potential postponed games than it is to start later with no built in bye weeks.
August 25th, 2020 at 3:49 PM ^
They shouldn't play until there is actual data on the long term effects of the virus to the heart, lungs and other organs. It's not "the flu" as many want to misinform, as it is as much if not more a circulatory disease as a respiratory disease based on what is both killing patients, resulting symptoms and the after effects.
My perfectly healthy (not obese, no pre-existing conditions) cousin did not realize she had the virus until her toes turned blue. She went in 2 days ago, got tested, was positive, and was given an anti-viral cocktail. Remdesivir + HIV meds for those interested.
Would she have survived and not needed amputation if not going to the hospital...probably - but many others are having similarly "strange" and varied symptoms and some do lead to the worst possible outcome. Her situation is not anecdotal.
Blood type and other genetic variations are leading to symptoms all over the map and until science has some level of understanding here and/or a widely distributed vaccine, it would be unwise for universities to make millions off unpaid athletes and take on such future liability.
Maybe the SEC pulls off a season. But they could be also lining themselves up for a decade of lawsuits, not to mention the actual, you know, well-being of the athletes.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:03 PM ^
I can't speak to the legality of it and how viable lawsuits would be but doesn't the fact that the players have the right to opt in or opt out of playing limit their ability to file a lawsuit?
Against I'm not educated on how a lawsuit could potentially play out but aren't these adults making decisions for themselves, which is all athletes and their parents want in the B1G, the ability to decide the acceptable risks for themselves.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^
I will make this very simple..
No.
Opt in, opt out has zero bearing on liability.
August 25th, 2020 at 9:09 PM ^
Well actually, it could. It is called contributory negligence. If the NCAA or any college is sued, you can be sure that it will be pled as an affirmative defense. Depending on the jurisdiction, a Plaintiff's recovery can be reduced by his own percentage of attributed fault. It is conceivable that a jury could find the Plaintiff to bear some fault for assuming the risk. It is also possible that a jury might find that the Plaintiff did not bear any fault.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
I’m guessing a waiver of the right to sue down the road would have to be informed and voluntary - a player could easily argue that they didn’t know/weren’t apprised of the risks (because nobody knows exactly what they are or how long-term they may be yet) or that they were pressured/forced to play by coaches/staff.
in any event, if kids play and get sick, have long term complications, or die - you can be sure there will be lawsuits and i doubt they’ll All get dismissed die to a signed waiver
August 25th, 2020 at 4:31 PM ^
The legal liability angle is still very unclear. The most likely angles of attack are going to be 1) the risk was greater than you led us to believe; or 2) we accepted the risk on the premise that you would take steps to keep us safe (masks, testing, whatever), but you failed to take those steps.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:36 PM ^
Lawsuits come in all shapes and sizes. What about the asymptomatic player taking it home and killing a parent, grandparent, or sibling. Those individuals didn't sign a waiver, yet they are as much at risk as the players. As painful as it is for all of us sitting at home staying safe and drinking bourbon, that we won't be able to do this on Saturdays this fall while watching football, the B1G probably did the right thing.
August 25th, 2020 at 6:50 PM ^
I know realists, and you sir, are no realist
August 25th, 2020 at 7:20 PM ^
Yeah you’re not educated. So why don’t you go back to 11warriors. You’ve spent the last 2 days bitching and moaning about how you and OSU fans know the right path for the big ten to take and yet you admit you don’t understand any of the legalities or science involved.
Just because your child like mind can’t grasp the consequences doesn’t mean no one else understands what’s going on. Let the adults do their job and you go back to playing with your tonka trucks.
August 25th, 2020 at 7:27 PM ^
They aren’t deciding the “acceptable risks for themselves” tho. Every new case incurred in this manner has several more opportunities, exponentially more in fact, to carry on spreading the virus. Even if the players test positive and are only ever around healthcare workers for a few weeks, it’s another opportunity to spread. There is a compounding ripple effect that many people seem to either not understand, or just plain ignore. It’s not solely about the 1 student athlete who gets sick at any given moment. It’s about slowing spread until containment and vaccination is an option
August 25th, 2020 at 4:10 PM ^
This is not uncommon. I have a good buddy (from my time at Michigan) who is a vascular surgeon here in LA and he has done "several" amputations as a result of COVID, and this was at least a month or two ago that he told me that so I'm sure that "several" number is much higher and he's just one doc at one hospital.
August 25th, 2020 at 9:55 PM ^
I don't think it is common though either.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:12 PM ^
Bo, don't waste your breath. Some people can't understand that there are bigger things than FOOTBALL.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Azee - There are absolutely bigger things in life than football. Family for one. At least in Ohio, and I thought was the case across Michigan as well, but football brings people together, and economically football supports many small businesses. Isn't that true where you live? Don't you get together with your family and community every fall weekend to support your favorite teams?
When I say football is more important than just a game, that is what I mean. It's a way to connect with your family and your community that otherwise might not be brought together.
It would also be different if the athletes didn't want to play, but they do. Or if the coaches didn't want to coach, but they do.
I would never insist of forcing people to play or do something they don't want to do.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:20 PM ^
You're an idiot.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:27 PM ^
dc - What part? lol or just the entire thing. Or just because I'm not hiding in my parents basement. Which part?
August 25th, 2020 at 8:54 PM ^
All of it. Nearly every point you try to make, are all stupid as shit. Like, complete uneducated anti-science drivel. Just stop, and go away.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:23 PM ^
It's a way to connect with your family and your community that otherwise might not be brought together.
This means that there's a problem with your family and community and don't actually value each other's company all that much. The absence of football shouldn't impact healthy relationships.
Also, "bringing the community together" in a physical sense is a terrible idea right now.
August 25th, 2020 at 4:23 PM ^
When I was 18-22 years old I wanted to bathe in a tub filled with cocaine and hookers.
Kids that age are stupid
Especially Buckeyes
August 25th, 2020 at 4:30 PM ^
I am 42 and wondering where is this bath tub you speak of?
August 25th, 2020 at 5:28 PM ^
I think there's one in the president's office at Liberty U.
August 25th, 2020 at 6:01 PM ^
Is tub boy a lower rank than pool boy?
August 25th, 2020 at 7:21 PM ^
Depends. Does tub boy or pool boy have the coke hookup?
August 25th, 2020 at 7:06 PM ^
59 here. There's no age limit on that fantasy.
August 25th, 2020 at 8:54 PM ^
Username checks out.
August 25th, 2020 at 9:20 PM ^
Also looking for directions to said tub. just so i can keep a healthy distance pf course.
August 25th, 2020 at 9:23 PM ^
Username checks out.