Celtics win by going through Duncan Robinson
Reading this morning how the Celtics decided isolating Robinson was the vulnerability in the Miami defense. I wonder what they would think of facing a defense with Nunez at that wing position?
January 30th, 2020 at 12:15 PM ^
Why do Michigan fans contort themselves so much to find ways to get upset about the players and teams they seemingly root for?
January 30th, 2020 at 3:22 PM ^
I am a big fan of Duncan, who I pay to watch live a a pro, but getting contorted over Nunez getting 15 minutes on the court is simply rational fan behavior.
January 30th, 2020 at 4:15 PM ^
They’re trolls, not fans.
January 30th, 2020 at 12:20 PM ^
Weird. He was +4 while the rest of the starters were -20, -11, -7 and -4. But yeah, he lost the game.
January 30th, 2020 at 12:25 PM ^
Want to take a guess at who had the best +/- in Michigan’s last game?
January 30th, 2020 at 1:39 PM ^
The answer will shock you!
January 30th, 2020 at 2:07 PM ^
First, Duncan Robinson is amazing as a pro. I don't mean that to say he's an All-Star or something close; I mean that I am amazed, considering his college career, that he is a legit, 30-plus min a game player who makes many meaningful contributions to a Top 8 NBA team. Did not see that coming, and it's great.
That said, + / - is a garbage stat, and it saddens me that it's starting to catch on.
Michigan had its big run in the 2nd half when Nunez happened to be out there. He contributed almost nothing during that time (e.g., 0 pts; 0 rebs).
Yet I'm supposed to take his +15 (and Wagner's 0) as indicative as something meaningful about their individual games?
GTFO with that stat.
January 30th, 2020 at 2:24 PM ^
I don't think anyone's going to argue that Nunez was our best player at Nebraska. In individual games you can get quirky results.
But I think the stat has value overall, given a larger sample size. Even for Tuesday's game, it shows that we at least were able to hide his shortcomings when he was on the floor, to the extent that we even went on a big run with him out there. (Though it may say more about how bad Nebraska is that anything.)
January 30th, 2020 at 4:37 PM ^
It's not a garbage stat in the context of this post, at all. If your team scores more points than its opponent when you are on the floor... but your team loses... you simply cannot be blamed for that loss.
In other words, the time when Boston outscored Miami was when Duncan was sitting on the bench drinking water. To then blame him for the loss is assinine.
January 30th, 2020 at 6:38 PM ^
I have no opinion on whether Duncan Robinson can be blamed for the loss in that game, as I didn't see one second of it. Very likely, he shouldn't be blamed, as it's a team game.
But that has nothing to do with plus/minus -- it's not a reliable indicator of a person's contribution. Adrian Nunez was (supposedly) 15 points better than Franz Wagner in the Nebraska game. That's not close. And by that stat, when we played Wagner, it was an even chance that UM loses; if we played Nunez more (e.g., in Wagner's place), we completely blow them out.
If you watched the game (as I did), that's no remotely correct. Wagner kept us in the game, when we were struggling to score points at time; Nunez was just a guy struggling to hit open shots and not doing much of anything else.
January 31st, 2020 at 10:57 AM ^
Michigan played better with Nunez on the floor. That's all the stat means. It's not meant to compare players and decide "who's better."
Miami played better, or at least outscored its opponent, with Duncan on the floor.
January 30th, 2020 at 3:10 PM ^
Holy hell. This one nugget of data alone makes me not care about +/-. Woof.
January 30th, 2020 at 12:21 PM ^
I’ve watched an absolute ton of DRob this year with the Heat. It’s true, he’s getting called for a lot of fouls. Sure some are the right call. But about half of them are a complete joke and majority of the league (especially all stars and above) just do not get called on them with any consistency. He’s basically a rookie and though it’s stupid, this is how it goes for newcomers in the NBA. Hopefully with more experience, he’ll improve and also start to get a little more respect from the officials.
January 30th, 2020 at 12:34 PM ^
This is very true. Often the difference between a foul and a great defensive play in the NBA is the number on the jersey of the defender.
January 30th, 2020 at 1:48 PM ^
this is what i couldn't and still can't stand about the ASSociation. calls are made for and against some but not others. And part of why i only watch about 2 or 3 NBA games a year for past 5-6 seasons. Donaghy even acknowledged that the league instructed refs to make certain calls against teams and players. And it's not always a rookie vs vet thing. Case in point, McDyess was a seasoned vet once he arrived in Detroit. He got the raw deal on most nights, although a very good defender he was in foul trouble often.
January 30th, 2020 at 7:22 PM ^
he is going to be the basketball version of tom brady.
January 30th, 2020 at 12:27 PM ^
So duncan is prone to getting beat off the dribble for twos but shoots 50% for 3 on the other end?
3 is more than 2
ill take that trade
January 30th, 2020 at 12:36 PM ^
...but that's 1.5 for 2
January 30th, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
woke: realizing a floor spacer is the key to opening up the offense for himself and others
January 30th, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^
Must not have mattered too much to Spoelstra since Robinson also played more minutes than anyone else on the Heat.
January 30th, 2020 at 3:26 PM ^
Don't understand why you would post a negative Robinson article, especially when he's among the most successful Wolverines in the pros, and ESPECIALLY coming from where he did. Stupid. His story of his rise to the pros is as good as it gets. Total Longshot...
January 30th, 2020 at 5:49 PM ^
Let me get this right, we should only post positive articles on anything Michigan. Basically, your vision is Fox news for the Michigan fan.
Living in Miami, attending Heat games, and subscribing to the local press there, I have been the sole poster of every positive article on Duncan on this board. That said, his defensive weaknesses (though greatly improved over the last six years) has been a leading topic on this site over the much of that time and remains relevant to our current team where we hope a lanky shooter can guard.