Why doesn’t Justin Fields even have an offer from U of M?
So I am hoping to get some input on this, not to create controversy or piss people off. We ask about the gap in talent all the time. How is that Justin Fields doesn’t even have an offer from U of M? How can we expect to make up the gap in talent when we are not even offering players with his skill set? I understand we may not land a ton of these guys but we should at least try right?
November 30th, 2019 at 8:49 PM ^
Something to do with academics. I think the higher ups are refusing to lower the academic standards for football athletes, and it is showing.
November 30th, 2019 at 8:53 PM ^
This is absolutely not true and is one of the reasons the entire country laughs at us. If a kid can get through the ncaa clearinghouse he can get in UM. Same with Sharty, OSU, Wisky, Ect.
November 30th, 2019 at 8:59 PM ^
Not true.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:00 PM ^
Absolutely true.
Athletes at M do not meet the same admission standards you or I had to.
They're not morons as such. But I'll bet you there are sub 3.0 HS GPAs on the football team. Which is fine; not judging. Anything above the NCAA-minimum (which I think is 2.5) meets the standard.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:15 PM ^
Being accepted and being able to handle the work are two different things. Sure, Kareem Walker and Aubry Solomon were accepted. Neither could handle the academic workload. Doesn't mean they're stupid, or have some learning disability. It means they couldn't handle the academic workload, for whatever reason.
Is this why Fields wasn't offered? Probably not. So many things go into it - academics, payments, QB type, personalities... Maybe Fields grew up not liking Michigan? Who knows? But Michigan offers a bunch of quality players each year, most decide not to come to UM. Some do...
(Edit: It was generally discussed that Solomon had academic issues - I do not know if this is true.)
December 1st, 2019 at 6:37 AM ^
You are wrong, why do you think the other guys from ole’ Miss weren’t here. I heard it straight from a staffers mouth that they weren’t gonna be accepted due to academics. Magically they all ended up on others teams. You sir are wrong.
December 1st, 2019 at 10:41 PM ^
You're posting with an emotional response rather than a fact based one.
Michigan accepts student athletes with GPAs and SAT/ACT scores LESS THAN the regular undergraduate population. That's NOT up for debate.
Get over it. We're not the Ivy league which doesn't give out athletic scholarships. Our student athletes do get exceptions made for them.
December 3rd, 2019 at 8:08 PM ^
Fields has offers from Harvard, Northwestern, and Yale but can’t make the cut at Michigan? This is the issue with your fan base lol.
Michigan recruits the same kids Florida, Ohio State and Alabama recruit. If you think the football players at Michigan have the same experience and standards as the regular student body...your delusional or just lying to yourself.
This is why the country laughs, because you all still think it’s the ‘50s. Michigan isn’t even that clean of a program...they are a football factory like most of the other power 5!!
November 30th, 2019 at 11:24 PM ^
You’re not wrong. People forget (or choose to ignore) that Harbaugh was enemy #1 at one point in time while at Stanford. He openly criticized Michigan for their academic standards and for steering players to general studies with easy classes so they could maintain eligibility.
Mike Hart had some choice words for Harbaugh back then. He said Harbaugh wasn’t a Michigan Man and he wished he had never played there. We have people on here wondering why Harbaugh didn’t offer him a position on the staff.
November 30th, 2019 at 8:54 PM ^
This is absolutely not true and is one of the reasons the entire country laughs at us. If a kid can get through the ncaa clearinghouse he can get in UM. Same with Sharty, OSU, Wisky, Ect.
November 30th, 2019 at 8:54 PM ^
This is absolutely not true and is one of the reasons the entire country laughs at us. If a kid can get through the ncaa clearinghouse he can get in UM. Same with Sharty, OSU, Wisky, Ect.
November 30th, 2019 at 8:57 PM ^
TBB = ohio troll. should be booted.
December 2nd, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^
We have an infestation of trolls here.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:00 PM ^
Yeah, not really buying that every great athlete can’t get into Michigan. I mean, he does not even have an offer!! That’s crazy to me!
November 30th, 2019 at 9:05 PM ^
One of the announcers said that Harvard was the first to offer Fields. Then Northwestern was the first power five school to offer Fields. I doubt academics was the reason.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:11 PM ^
Exactly. Its hilarious that Michigan fans think that we have an academic hurdle compared to Northwestern, Vanderbilt, or Stanford. Not even comparable.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:19 PM ^
That must be it. He had a 3.9 High School GPA and was offered by Duke, Yale, Northwestern, and Harvard, but he couldn’t meet your academic standards.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:36 PM ^
Absolute BS. We try to recruit the same players as OSU, Bama, Clemson but when kids grow up seeing UM losing 8 straight and 15 out of the last 16 (let that sink in) in turns them away. And 55 to 27 and 62 to 39 sure doesn't help
November 30th, 2019 at 9:56 PM ^
With that approach, we will never catch up. The history is what it is. You have to change what your doing in order to change the outcome at that includes offering top talent.
December 1st, 2019 at 12:16 PM ^
Rashan Gary got a 9 on the Wonderlic which is essentially functionally retarded.
Do you honestly not realize that Michigan has the same reduced admission standards as every other school? Are you really that delusional?
Michigan plays by the same rules as everyone else.
Ohio State develops talent. They get players to the NFL, therefore they get better talent.
November 30th, 2019 at 8:49 PM ^
He didn’t fit Harbaugh type of QBs I guess...
November 30th, 2019 at 9:41 PM ^
He came right out and said he transferred to OSU to learn under Ryan Day. His other serious choice was Oklahoma. Notice who the two head coached are: L. Riley and Day - both considered offensive gurus.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:41 PM ^
He came right out and said he transferred to OSU to learn under Ryan Day. His other serious choice was Oklahoma. Notice who the two head coached are: L. Riley and Day - both considered offensive gurus.
November 30th, 2019 at 8:53 PM ^
While I believe Fields is a solid QB - playing Qb for OSu has to be the easiest job ever. Everyone looks great until they're in the NFL where OSU has never had a decent QB. Fields may be the first.
BTW he shouldn't even be eligible this year.
November 30th, 2019 at 8:53 PM ^
Does it honestly matter? If we offered would he have come? Keep in mind at the time we were still more pro style than spread
November 30th, 2019 at 9:24 PM ^
I get it, but it doesn’t answer why he doesn’t even have a offer. I get they don’t produce NFL qbs, but honestly, I don’t care about NFL qbs. I care about Michigan winning. I am proud of all the guys that do make it, but in reality most of the players, including ours, fall short.
November 30th, 2019 at 11:14 PM ^
but us getting Shea was ok? this is the type of delusional bullshit that gets old here. We jerk off to shea getting immediate eligibility but say people cheated when they do. FFS
November 30th, 2019 at 8:53 PM ^
Does it honestly matter? If we offered would he have come? Keep in mind at the time we were still more pro style than spread
November 30th, 2019 at 9:27 PM ^
To me it does matter. If we want to constantly look at the gap in talent, but yet there are obviously talented guys that would be an obvious upgrade on our roster doesn’t even get a scholarship offer? I am really just using him as an example. But I think it’s valid because it’s the most important position in football.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:00 PM ^
Because we weren't looking for another QB at the time?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:03 PM ^
We offered Justin Feagan instead of Justin Fields...
November 30th, 2019 at 9:04 PM ^
Who in our stable of qbs is better? Plus why not at least take a shot?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:03 PM ^
Because we don’t offer everyone and he’s from Georgia and went to Georgia. Probably because he was Georgia all the way. He just jumped on an opportunity at OSU and it worked out. An offer isn’t shit unless you put time and money towards the recruitment itself. And if they deemed him as zero interest then they aren’t gonna just offer to offer.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:10 PM ^
From my understanding, he was originally headed to PSU. So he was not a Georgia lock. Plus he was the top dual threat in the country. Again, not saying we would have got him, but to not even get a scholarship offer. He had 42 offers. Obviously we need to change the way we recruit, because the current way is obviously not working.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^
Probably because he’s playing for Ohio State. He actually played in a game today.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^
Yeah! Why didn't we at least offer Cam Newton!!
November 30th, 2019 at 9:11 PM ^
He's played at UGA and OSU. Two schools that pay players.
Why TF would he ever consider UM when they're offering thousands of dollars?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:19 PM ^
Quit whining. We pay players as well. They are just better at it.
Dont act like we lose because we occupy some mythical moral high ground
November 30th, 2019 at 9:30 PM ^
Please provide an example of where I was whining. Thank you in advance. Fuckhead.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:49 PM ^
tell 'thetruth', which recently banned, now newly-constituted poster are you?
November 30th, 2019 at 9:24 PM ^
And if you don’t believe me, look up Louis Martin Blazer...
November 30th, 2019 at 11:17 PM ^
STFU, this is why we are laughed at constantly by the whole fucking country. Yeah, Ohio State pays every fucking player but we don't. How about the fact that Ryan Day appears to ACTUALLY be a QB whisperer unlike ours. How about the fact he works with the same QB coach as Haskins and Quincy has been on record saying that if he had a son the first coach he would want his son to play for is RYAN FUCKING DAY.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:11 PM ^
This place is going to need a lot of basketball and a lot of booze to get through the next month...
November 30th, 2019 at 9:14 PM ^
I've had a few today. Comfortably numb
November 30th, 2019 at 9:15 PM ^
I don't think Fields really makes a difference at OSU. Easy to be QB with those WRs and Dobbins running the ball.
November 30th, 2019 at 9:15 PM ^
It doesn’t matter if he was offered or not. He wouldn’t have came here. We need to actually win some big games to get recruits like Fields
November 30th, 2019 at 9:29 PM ^
Couldn’t qualify academically. The word is he shit the ACT and most schools couldn’t take him.
November 30th, 2019 at 10:15 PM ^
He had 3.9 gpa and at least a 29 on ACT. It’s amazing that every time there is a loss it is either they cheat by paying players (please provide legitimate examples) or kids can’t get into school here. Wisconsin and Penn St don’t have significantly better recruits. Even MSU made the big 10 championship game without same recruits. So is it just anyone better is paying players and accepting any academic bum that can play or is it any team that beats Michigan? It’s really become a sad excuse.
November 30th, 2019 at 11:19 PM ^
dude stfu, his first offer was from Harvard then Northwestern then Duke. we are so fucking arrogant to believe we exist in some mega stratosphere of academics. The kid is a strong academic athlete
November 30th, 2019 at 9:41 PM ^
Why didn't we offer Joe Namath? Great wheels, rocket arm, and a PA kid: I guess Harbaugh just doesn't like that kind of quarterback.